rsmcelroy

hello all, i am doing a T3 conversion at the moment i have got a stage 2 PE hybrid, have got a superchip, and getting a kent cam with cosworth induction. Would there be any benefit getting beige injectors? or would i be better off spending the money elsewhere (i.e. clutch or intercooler?)

Cheers

bud-weis

depends how much power you want, think the standard injectors are good for about 180bhp or so , if you want more than that then you really need bigger injectors.

SassyRS

as bud-weis, said 180bhp on standard injectors, your not supposed to run anymore than 12psi on std injectors anyway, so all depends on what power ya after

rsmcelroy

thats what i thougt i am after 200+ really, cheers all

Stu @ M Developments

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You wont see anything but an engine meltdown after around 175bhp on std injectors at std fuel pressure. The pump is also on its limit at this point.

bud-weis

stu, is it common for beige injectors to give a 'lumpy' drive on light throttle at low revs? it pulls smoothly when on throttle, the only other one i have driven was standard and seemed much smoother round town.?

Stu @ M Developments

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Nope, shouldnt make any difference.

bud-weis

grrrr , must be sommat not quite spot on methinks

thanks for clearing that up

rsmcelroy

cheers for that stu. What bhp can beige handle? also with regards to pump what would you advise esc cosworth one?

Stu @ M Developments

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Esc Cos uprated.

The 701s will make around 215 bhp.

bud-weis

i got a fuel pump from Glencoe ( FSE ) . they did me a great deal at the time of £100 including VAT and delivery . it's the ITP044 that you want , the Fiesta turbo / Escort cosworth motorsport pump , handles up to 350 bhp.

Stu @ M Developments

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Just to clarify, the ITP048 is the 350bhp pump. NOT the 044.

bud-weis

are you sure stu? the 'salesman' defo said to me ;

fiesta turbo motorsport/ escort cosworth ITP044 up to 350 bhp
escort cosworth motorsport ITP048 up to 500bhp
or was i just fed some sheeeeiittte? if so whats the 044 rated up to ?


prices not including vat

Stu @ M Developments

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Your listing kind of answers your question for you.

The 044 is a standard esc cos replacement.
The 048 is a 350 bhp replacement.

Call them and they will confirm they dont really do a 500bhp pump. We have argued this with them very recently and they concur that they dont in fact do one bigger than the 048.

bud-weis

the cheeky buggers !

not very good selling products under false pretences

i'm perfectly happy with the pump but you'd think they would just tell it how it is

thanks for the info stu and sorry for the hijack rsmcelroy

Stu @ M Developments

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Its highlighted by the fact the 044 is listed for the std car in their catalogue too.

If youd ever seen a 500bhp in tank fuel pump you would see why the 048 design can never easily flow it anyway!!

bud-weis

no i haven't seen a 500bhp in tank fuel pump. but before i'd seen the listings or indeed their catalogue i spoke to them on the phone and asked what THEY would recommend fuel pump wise for a fiesta turbo running 200+ bhp. the guy then basically said 'you'll be wanting the 044, flows 350, more than you'll probably ever need' , when i said is that the same as the escort cosworth pump he said " yeah but not the motorsport one , that flows 500bhp which would put way too much strain on your fuel system "

ah well least i know now



cheers

rsmcelroy

cheers stu and bud-weis! i like it when you put a post on and 2 people chat between themselves and you get all the info you need without asking a question!!

Stu how much could you do a Esc cos uprated for? if not where do you recommend?

Cheers

mattbibs

my bieges were fine at low revs bud-weis. a little lumpy at idle and off boost as you describe but that was cured after i got it set up!