Badman38

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liams loving the engine bay trust me 300+ wont be enough you'll want more in no time, at lease the engine can handle a lot more power.

Badman38

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jemrs

nice to see girls getting into the Scene and actually using there cars properly, but i suppose your partner has alot to do with that, a mint car to boot does'nt look like it needs a respray. you'll get the bug big time and be wanting to thrash your car at every Opportunity possible.
your partner sid was the reason i stayed and Developed my zvh, he showed me what was possible with the right Components.
after various problems I have had with my cts stage two plus gearbox and twin plate clutch. Paul hill @ engine advantages finally finished the map On my fiesta. only problem we had one of the rocker arm studs decided to escape from the cylinder head taking the threads. The engine ended up making 428bhp and 404fbt @ 28psi and @ 20psi 340bhp these gt series turbos really move some air. the car an absolute animal to drive




i heard sid moving towards a t38 there are a few specs of this turbo but due to the lag the car might be slower over the 1/4 unless he looking into going 16v, but a small shot of nitrous would Eliminate lag, i run nitrous purely for drag racing spools up the turbo Instantaneously between gear changes

the bc gearbox which cts have significantly improved is generally not a great fwd box, even if you dont have problems have the box seviced once maybe twice a year to stop problems before they occur. the mtx75n is the box of choice for any fwd application its a very strong box in standard trim. i just wish someone would do a fitted kit like jano does for the escort.
prefect ratios you never hear of any problems with this box.

Liams

Yeah I can see it being abit of a bug, you can never have enough!! I dont know what to expect at 300 to be honest! Think il see how it deals with traction first and gearboxs

Your power figures are awsome bet thats a right handfull! Q. Does your exhaust fit round the back ok round the speedo cable?

liam

Badman38

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yes a right handful but fun especially knowing 95% of the sport cars you meet on the road you can blow away. the cts stage two plus is a good box, i have only had a few problems with it but nothing major.

the exhaust fits round the back ok its got lagging and has'nt caused any problems so far i will take a picture to show you how it fits.

Liams

Not supprised to be fair with the amount of power your putting through it!
What does bernie rate his boxes too? The stage 2+ is what I have so fingures crossed it will be ok! What oil does bernie recomend to use also?
If you could mate cheers

Badman38

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jemrs sorry for Hijacking your post i hope you dont mind liams i use a semi-synthetic oil from bernie, sid the only person i have heard who has destroyed a stage two plus i would like to know what actually broke.
i've cracked the casing and worn the first gear hub so the car kept on jumping out of first gear mtx75 is the one i want.

JEMRS

TURBOBOSS: Thanks for the comments mate. Sid has spoke about your car too me before. An amazing spec.

As in regards to stealing the post..... The more the merrier

There some huge power figures you have there.
Sids hoping to have his finally dyno'd again very soon, so should have some info to put up. He is trying a t38 i believe but things can change as they have in the past. He's mentioned GT Series turbos to me in the past but i cant keep up with everything Ian and Sid plan to do.

Do you have a graph at all you could put up TURBOBOSS as Sid i'm sure would love to see. He's away again at the minute so i'll e-mail it to him.

I'm after more power already and the engines not even built yet.

Awesome spec mate.

CheeRS

Badman38

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jemrs thanks for the Compliments taken a lot of time and money, people doubted the cvh head could flow to those sort of figures. theres a pic of the power graph above, if sid going down the t38 or any of the gt series range (gt30 very good road car turbo gt35 is abit over kill unless you are into just top speed stuff) he might want to Consider nos not because of the extra power nitrous can Generate nitrous is so Beneficial for turbo charged cars. Turbo cars are far safer on nos due to the cooling effect which prevent detonation .
Nitrous its unbelieveable stuff, sids car would love it and the car would be so much faster over the 1/4 mile even though i think sids car must have some major traction problems with 116mph terminals that is a 12s car all day. On gas i have no lag whats so ever. Apart from more power, how would you like FULL BOOST at any RPM? Maximum power from the second you push the pedal? Because it totally removes all turbo lag - completely! Full power/boost from idle RPMs upwards! Stand on the gas and GO!
The nitrous initially provides the go, but this makes a lot of exhaust gas that spins the turbo up fast! Sudden boost too! Because if used as a "turbo lag remover" the nitrous is turned off as soon as boost is achieved via a manifold pressure switch, so the bottle lasts AGES! that’s if you wanted the nos for this Purpose (i did'nt) PEAK power can be drastically improved - if used normally (on all the time @ full throttle) rather than just to eliminate the turbo lag. charge cooling effect gives a measure of safety and prevents detonation, meaning higher turbo boost pressures can be used. and it also means a much bigger turbo can be used! with large turbos so much time is lost through lag after a gear change the turbo might take a second to spin up, this wont happen with nos.
i like the way sids car is so Understated a real wolf in sheeps clothing, hes got ian howell the mad Professor devising different specs. i was talking to ian @ central rs national day the duratec is an Absolute awesome engine, 500bhp is Achievable on Relatively low boost.
keep as all informed on your Progress with sids ideas and ian Knowledge your spec list is going to be huge, you will have a plan but as time goes on it will change.

thanks sean

Liams

Good explanation there, i always thought to stay clear of nos as always thought engines didnt last long using it but by the sound of it, it has its different uses and providing used properly it can be safe?! Never really paid much attention to nos, this may sound really thick but is it that nos is mega flamable or that it cools the charge down or both

cheers
liam

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If people don’t ask questions they will always believe what they are told, your question is by no means thick . nitrous is not at all Flammable I must say the fast Furious did make me Chuckle when Dom aka vin Diesel shouted "nos" and then the car blew up . Nitrous is approximately -127 degrees and only when fuel is added and it is compressed does it chemical state change to make it Volatile. But by this time it’s safely in the cylinder .
If you ran a single shot i.e. one injector, where the injector is placed the nitrous in some cases will freeze the throttle body. I went for a direct port setup because I am eventually going to use a 100 shot but with less boost. Direct port is only needed on a very intricate manifold or if you are running 100 shot or more. This is to make sure all the cylinders have an even Distribution. My current setup is a wizard of nos kit which is a British company and the best kits bar none
I was using an American nitrous oxide system kit which everyone will recognize from the blue nitrous bottle; I have retained the bottle but have changed the rest of the system, why you might ask? Well with all the knowledge I have gathered over the few years ( I’m no expert) I’ve been using nitrous I have found that most of the American kits on the market are shite and are to blame for most of the engine blowups giving nitrous a bad rep
the solenoids are cheap and unreliable, injectors or foggers as they are called don’t atomize the nitrous and fuel properly, the braided lines bore size are much too big which acts as reservoir for the initial gaseous nitrous to build up causing a huge loss in performance so you have to purge the system, the metering jets are housed in the injectors when you have bottle pressure of 900psi and then fuel pressure at 55psi the system has to be designed so the first hit of fuel and nitrous come out at the same, but because of there location this causes the initial hit to be lean ( don’t have to explain to you what this means)
With the wizard of nos kit you have none of these problems, metering jets are in the pulsoids so the hit is lean for a very short period of time which is safer for the engine and this makes the hit softer so the car is less stressed, all other kits of the hit hard which can cause clutch slip or transmission problems , they use small bore nylon line which keeps the nitrous in a liquid form, the pulsoids will never wear and you get prefect fuel and nitrous atomization with there crossfire injectors
I have seen turbo cars make as much as 65bhp and 80fbt from just a 50 shot. Look at Tim with his Norris Motorsport powered escort rs turbo, he was doing 13.5 ¼ mile runs then he used just a 25 shot of nitrous and his times dropped to 12.9 . I had my doubts about nitrous but learn the truth and reap the rewards.

ps i've not fogotten about the pics of the down pipe will try and get them done for you tomorrow.

SidZvh

Hey there everybody

Been very busy at the minute with work and my own car so Jems engine is taking longer than planned. Although this is better for her as she gets propper pistons and rods.

Although this is bad as it means she wants the same spec bottom end as me.

We were never gonna do it the easy way though. We want it to be pretty much bomb proof for what we want it for...... Family car......LOL

The old engine is going strong at the minute so no need to panic.

Would both like to get the escort running at the minute and do some propper times this year, but the FRST engine is still going forward, although slowly.

New pictures to follow very soon.

JEMRS

Hello monkey

Why aren't you workin??????

Get yourself home and do some more work on this engine......LOL
As he said, we want it right, and we're not gonna just throw it together.

Would love to be able to compete some time next year.

Have you turned the key yet Liams?

Will you be at the Mega Thrash Turboboss if invited?

Liams

Hello,

Jemrs- Nope havent turned the key yet, I wish Only just got back been away for a week

Manifold and that are back looks still waiting on the rad and breather which will hopefully be here soon
Going to get the exhaust made next which im gona do asap so providing I pull my finger out it might actually get finished

Sounds like your going to have a monsterious family car... littlens gona need harnesses on that recaro seat of hers

No point in rushing if your engine is still going strong might aswell just injoy it as it is for now ay!!

Turboboss- Very interesting read, didnt realise any of the above!! As you say untill you ask you only hear stories!! Maybe one day if I really get into it at the pod I may delve in it, wel see! Cheers for the info!!

JEMRS

Hello guys,

How is it all going?

Liams - So, did you go anywhere nice for your week away?
How's your car going? Got your exhaust done yet?

I'm at that point at the minute where there's not a lot to see but things are progressing in the right direction
In the next couple of weeks, i'll be putting my order in for a set of Arias Pistons
Still undecided on rods at the min.... Although i'm sweet talking SID for steel rods

Turboboss - Some really good info i'm getting off you mate, keep it coming, the more the better

JEMRS

TURBOBOSS

How did ya get on at pod mate at the weekend?

Did she perform well?

cheeRS

Liams

Hello,

Only went to stay with my cousion at bournemouth uni.... was good!

Nope been fidling with the breather but been bit lazy really, waiting for the rad to turn up then il blitz it and sort out everything!!

So what little bits have you been doing to yours? you have to have steel rods

scotty86d

just caught up with this thread again. Love the ideas and how ur cars are looking. sometimes wished i'd got a fiesta as all yours look minty but they are a little on the small side for me.

now wish I had the funds for a renowned ian engine, and that nos info was handy stuff, got my thinking!!

JEMRS

Now then mate. how's you?

I have family down there, it's a nice place for a break

Mine has made progress, my Block has made its way into a car unfortunately not mine!!! Ian and Sid are using it as a dummy engine in Sids for development ideas, they have both promised me though that the Block will be sent off this week to be bored

Hopefully by christmas i will have Chip and Injectors, if not it may be my birthday present in January lol
I've got itchy fingers so i have been doing odd bits here and there... I even refurbished my windscreen wipers lol

My partners car has taken priority at mo cause his is hoping to appear at Mega Thrash later this year, whenever that is, so all stops have been pulled out for it to be there...


So anyway, how's things going your end? Any news?
What you been up to?

cheeRS

JEMRS

CheeRS mate for kind comments, much appreciated

What you running?

Any major plans for future?

Liams

Apart from being ill im cool, you?

Been feeling shite last few days so havent done anything, started doing the rear bushes last night but gave up

Sids new engine.... is he doing the duratec this time round or another zetec build or is it his origional engine but with different bits on it?!

for the injectors and chip are you going for one of ians management package jobbies?

Im hoping the rad will turn up soon as thers quite a few bits I cant put together for good untill its in Got a friends car up and running today after a new engine which has given me a bit of encouragement so when I feel better il crack on!!

JEMRS

Hope nothing too serious mate...
I'm alright, just been taking it easy with the family, Sid goes away soon, so making the most of it....

I'm gonna have one of Ian's jobbies LOL
Stick to what i can rely on, it's the best way, he's always been there for Sid and our family

What was your mates car? Anything exciting?

Nice too hear that it's given you a boost. Sid says that's the best bit about his job after it's been in a billion bits. The starting up and everything being o.k and then gettin some load on it.

No, Sids not gone Duratec unfortunatly for me, or Zetec.....LOL
If he was going down the Duratec route they'd be no need to do mine....LOL

Ian and Sid still have alot to prove with his ZVH. It's never as yet run with his proper gearbox in and timed. Or has it ever run anymore than 18psi.
There's a hell of alot more to come we know.

The engine has been re-spec'd in the last 6 months and it's now just pipework which they're sorting out i think. They were messing about this morning for a while but i think all is going well.

Should be interesting when it's done.

Be nice to get my hands on it again.....

cheeRS

JEMRS

Nothing much really i know, but......

Sid washed it earlier to get some of the road dirt off it and thought i'd take another couple of snaps with his camera....

You can see there's a couple of dents in the bottom half which needs doing plus the wheels need re-furbing....frt off side wheel especially.
Although, a nice set of Escos wheels would get rid of them. That's why i was on about the re-paint.

If i stayed on std rims, should i go all one colour as they are now, or, the anthracite centre pieces as std?




I know it's not much but i'm just taking as many pictures as it is now before all the big things start transforming the car.

cheeRS

Liams

Hi,

Na nothing serious!! On the mend now!!

Yep when your spending lots of pennies its best to stick with one tuner as you know it will all work together well, unlike what I did when I bought a turbo from the states and it came through all wrong what an expensive mistake that was!!

My mates car is a grey series2 just like in sids siggy,very clean car still a 1600cc.... a friend of ours was selling a powers engine for next to nothing so he snapped it up. Should see 230 odd bhp thats what it ran before! Il get a piccy up of the engine when I next see him

Its given me a boost as I havent been in a rs turbo in ages, even the sound Im bit worried about getting my exhaust made, place near me is long life which do have a good reputation but im dreadin it sounding like a max flower car! Alot of power-flow systems sound all farty and if im spending near on 600 quid by the time ive flat beded it there I wont be happy lol

By the sounds of it sids car got good times anyway, what gearbox will he be running and what sort of boost is he hoping to run?

Your fezzy looks in the pics! Cant even see any dents!! Are you considering painting the standard wheels then I take it, escos wheels would look just if you dont mind some arch trimming to get it to sit nice!!

liam

JEMRS

Hiya mate,

Sounds like you had a nightmare regarding Turbo from States. What was that all about??

Definately get a few pics of your mates turbo for us to have a look at

Yeah, you definately want to be getting your money's worth with that exhaust, but if they have a good rep, hopefully you'll have no worries

Gonna get Escos rims further down the line, gonna do what you said and get my arches trimmed, for them to be sitting just right
Also gonna get Toyo R888's for my standard rims for track days, seem to be quite a few people using them, i've read some good reviews...

Sid's engine should be running 28psi + or -, depending on how the dyno goes....

As for the gearbox he bought Sunny's old box a couple of years ago but it let go on him , Ian has now ordered a new gear kit for him with different ratios. It's got an ATB diff and a few other trick bits i think

Oh, was your engine done by Ian or just some of your bits?

So what you been up to?

cheeRS

Liams

Hi,

Yeah I have a good mate that can source all kinds of cars bits at pretty good prices, electronic stuff, tyres you name it he can pretty much get it...... but with turbos it wasnt his fault as usually hes orders gt series turbos from them which is pretty much what he knows about. We ordered an externaly gated t34 which actually came through as a t3/4 so its mahoosive, on there sight I know there american figures but they quote it can flow 620hp far to big so it now sitting here gathering dust

The exhaust is getting done next, il be going down there on sat to book it in hopefully

Yep escos rims certainly look the part and so do triple 8's! Thats what I wouldnt mind getting for a spare set of 3dr rims that mate of mine can get a good price on them too

Blimey 28psi, would love to hit that in the near future on my t34 maybe when I have another couple of grand to spare for the next installment

The hole lots from ian yes, engine,turbo,management,lower arms,manifold,clutch erm and other bits probably, after the turbo I kicked meself knowing that I should of bought one through ian in the first place

As for what ive been up to done a few bits on the car, anti roll-bar is at powder coaters so that will go back on with poly bushes, ordered my brakes and braided lines and a couple of hoses! Rad will be another week or so yet but ive got to muck about with the alternator yet while thats not in there and as ive said hopefully the exhaust will be done in the next week some time too coming along!! Slowly but forwards!!

Any more news with your engine yet or is it all hands on with sids?!!

JEMRS

Hi,

Shame about the turbo, you not thought about selling it on? Or are you gonna keep it for now and have Ian build you a monster Duratec

Will your exhaust be a 3inch system all the way through? What size exit are you having?

I was looking at prices today for the R888's, and they started at £65 each... That was for Sid's size wheels, didn't check mine...Would your mate do a better deal... If so would we be able to get some through you? Think your 3 DR Rims will look totally sexy in R888's

Today, i got some quotes on Flocked Dashes, looking at doing that prior to christmas, unfortunately my block is still in Sid's car with his alternator attached so Ian and he can get an idea of where certain pipes will run and how much clearance they will have. Should have the block back out next week, sent off for boring

Was just wondering about your engine as Ian and Sid were trying to work out how many of his engines were out there and in what cars. There seems to be so many with a connection to Areasix it's hard to keep up. Same with NMS.

Oh could you put some pics up of your 3 dr please??
I absolutely love them

Jem

Liams

Yeah ive tryed selling it on here but only really got time wasters Have to try fleabay me thinks!!

Na 2.5 inch all the way through, think thats what ian said I would need! Is sids a 3" system? il check that one out actually!!

Im working with the fella tomorrow so il ask for some prices, I know there not the same but he got me my toyo's that are on the wheels now and they came out at £70 for a pair, didnt think that was bad!!
Think id want a spair set of rims though as I dont like the idea of 888's in the winter, I have one tatty spair 3dr rim just need 3 more

I really want mine flocked but id have to have a proper think about it first otherwise once its done id want to put another gauge in somewhere How much did they quote you?

When I was up at ians he said hes never had so many people having engines of him then never making it into a car!! So many people give up on zetec conversions as they dont realise how much dosh goes into them

Heres that friend of mines series2



The turbo I bought




And the 3dr that is my bros not mine !! Currently being broken






cheers
liam

Badman38

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hi jem no did'nt perform well at all trying to keep the car in a straight line was a nightmare i was on and off the power at one point i nearly ended up in the opposite lane also i had a few problems with my nitrous. dont know my times but i know they were woeful. new tyres and an aligment check is in order and a few Mechanical bits to sort out. then i will be back at the pod on the 5th november hopefully things will be ok this time.

JohnW

Hey Jem,

Damn the cars looking mint on the picys, bet ya can't wait to get it all done. I know with you two on the case it'll turn out absolutely spot on.

Please you're gonna be keeping it as a sleeper too, should certainally surprise a few people!

If you're looking at getting some Toyo's (or other cut slicks) check out this website, found them about the best price for me so far! Certainally worth a look.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b99s0p0

JEMRS

LIAMS -

Nice photos mate
I would absolutely love to have one of those one day

That turbo is HUGE

Well Sid has gone away to earn some pennies for the cars and XMAS
So for the mo, it will just be me, pottering around the car doing doing this and that.....

You had any quotes on the R888's?
\mate of mine has put a link on here for some cut slicks...

Had my eyebrow pierced today
So tonight is gonna be a long night with no sleep LOL

What u been up to?

Jem

JEMRS

Thanks mate

Nice to know that the Rover boys can appreciate a Ford.. LOL

Only joking..

How r u? Wat u been up to?

How's the motor going?

Jem

Liams

Hi,

Yep the 3dr was nice, had a couple of goes in it animal!! It made 406hp on the rollers, if my bro had the extra money for the cams it would of been an M.A.D 500hp/500ftlb conversion Transmision would of shat itself anyway so never mind!!

Yeah the turbo is a bit large, getting a mate to give us a hand putting it on ebay never really used ebay before!! If I get anything for it il be happy

He only had a price for 17s, £87 a corner! he said he would ring them to find out for smaller sizes? What do they normally retail at? I would imagine there bit cheaper for 15s

Oo bet thats tender! does sid know youve had your eyebrow done lol

Been sorting a few bits on the car, put cossie brakes on night before last, braided lines arriving tomorrow hopefully, erm car is going to have the exhaust made on monday, picked up anti-rollbar from powder coaters today which looks smart shame ya never going to see it though
Waiting on the rad now really which isnt being made till end of next week Part from that ive got to wire in the boost controller, sort the wires out for the gauges, fill her and the gear box up with oil and I think im there

So what you been doing with yours?

liam

JohnW

Hey might own a Rover, but owned a couple of Fords though, still got a soft spot for the RS's, gotta love em.

Should hopefully get the car back on the road for end of month, picking the engine up this weekend, just a case of running it in this time though, couldn't be bothered to wait for the dyno to come free!

Car doesn't look a pretty sight though, desperately needing some paintwork but gonna concentrate on the running first. I'll get some picys emailed to ya as it progress's so you can keep an eye on your competition, lol

Ooh, if you two have a spare T34 kicking about (as you do) give me a pm as I know someone who's after one.

Anyway hope you're all keeping well, take care and speak to ya soon.

JEMRS

LIAMS -



WOW, nearly there... what a feeling that must be!!!
I'm really excited for you, silly i know lol

Cannot wait to see it complete....

Quote i've had for tyres are £60 odd....

Yeah he does know, he was gonna go with me but like i said he has gone away, and my mate said she will come with me and look after my little one.. It was alright actually, not as bad as i thought

Hey, listen, if ya want any help on EBAY for anything, i dont mind lending a hand to ya...

Not done much lately, put some new tyres on the front for winter....

Gonna have to meet up so i can have a nosey around your motor and put a face to a name lol

JEMRS

LIAMS -

Also how much were your cossie brakes...

Only ask cause that was the road i was going to go down

Liams

Jem,

Cheers Yeah getting quite excited now myself!! Just hope everything holds up as ive put it all together after all
Ive enjoyed doing it but I just want it done now so I can enjoy it... and break it

Thats a pretty good price on the tyres!! Wont be doing it through the winter though, save them for the pod!! Heard there bit dodgey in the wet anyway??!

Might have to take ya up on that as I havent the slightest on flea-bay! Selling the turbo could mean a rollcage or something along the lines ! Id like to get hold of another dash soon so I can play about with the idea of moulding gauges in for preperation for some defi's.... not that im any good with fibre glass

Yeah def, its good to put faces to names, and get some area-six cars together !!

The cossie brakes where off a mates escos which my bro bought for me as a prezy, think about £60 then I got the german grooved discs and ferrodo DS2500 pads from woodford along with some braided lines!! Think all in £290!! Painted the calipers black too which smartened them up! Just hope they do the job !!



cheers
liam

JEMRS

LIAMS

Thank you for picture of your brakes, they look smart..
Painting the callipers black was a good move, definately improves thier visability..

Let me know if you want me to help on flea-bay (lol), then i'll get some details off ya and sort it for you...

Talking about Dashes, i got a qoute other week for dash to be flocked, it came out as £125 then £20 extra for p&p.....
They do some stunning work

Jem

Liams

Yeah the dashes are pretty reasonable I think, def going to get it done!!

Ok thanks well a mate may be interested in the turbo but il find out for def and let you know

Exhaust was made today looks Just one problem though clearance between downpipe and brake servo is about 1mm, with heat wrap it will be touching! Just hope with engine movement it wont bash into it!!

Liam

JEMRS

Liams

Hiya,...

Sounds like a right squeeze with that clearance

How r u? Wat u been up to?
Have u been quoted on any dashes at all?

Keep looking at your brakes, they look fantastic... definately will go down that road myself now...

Has your car got any mods to the front... i.e part of bumper cut out etc?

I was thinking of opening mine a bit so as there is more airflow...
then thinking about getting small number plate under one set of my fogs...

what do you think?

Jem

Liams

Hi,

Yeah im cool, busy with work at the mo so not done much with the car really! Hopefully the rad is turning up tomorrow which will give me something to do on it?! Hows you? Done anything else with the car?

Yeah its a bit of a squeeze to say the least! Going to look into a pedalbox conversion I think, depending on price though

Na ive not looked into flocking just yet but that price you got was pretty reasonable! I want to use a good firm to do it so il prob use them!!

Yeah the brakes do look quite nice they fill out behind the wheels much better!! Just not sure if they will be enough?! The cars only light though I suppose!

With my bumper I put some holes in the front panel to see what it looked like before I cut the whole section out but its grown on me how it is, think it looks quite track slaggish
My front plate fits in the fogs perfect but I dont like it looking un-even being on one side so mines in the windscreen for now
Oh and there might be a oil cooler going in one set of fogs



liam