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NUTS RuS 27-08-2008 06:37 PM

Mk 5 adjustable bottom arms
 
We keep getting asked to produce these.

Is there a market ?

Who does them currently :top:

danrs2k 28-08-2008 10:49 AM

Yes there is a market for these here is a link who currenty do them but i cant justify payin nearly £300 for some bottom arms when you can buy patten ones for as little as £15.

http://www.area-six.co.uk/Adjustable...ion%20Arms.htm

cosevo 28-08-2008 09:50 PM

id ask on rs2000-16v.com, full of 2k guys that would be interested

Cawood 29-08-2008 02:27 PM

hi tony

yes i reckon you could get a lot of interest in these are they are the RS2k's achillies heel.

but as said you would be competing against the area six ones, i would have a set off you and i reckon a few would of rs2000-16v.com.... if you can do them at a realistic price, like your others you do, ie £150

NUTS RuS 29-08-2008 03:15 PM

Price wouldnt be an issue as it is what we are geared up to do.

Just wondering if there is still a market

stuey650 29-08-2008 04:21 PM

def a market, its not just rs2k lads that needs these they're a major design flaw on any mk5/mk6 escort which is further highlighted when you lowered your car by inside tyrewear. So yes Rs2000-16v.com but also head over to the likes of escortevolution etc if you can produce them at a good price they'll sell.

NUTS RuS 29-08-2008 09:05 PM

So whats the problem with them ?

No point me registering on other sites yet until I know if there is a market.

Most sites get a sniff of a trader approaching and get upset which is understandable.

turbomook 29-08-2008 10:17 PM

Well i have had two sets off adjustable lower arms in my Rs2000 Turbo.

Ones similar to the area six ones and some zoo motorsport ones. And what a difference they make.

I had to put standard ones back on for a couple of weeks while waiting for the Zoo motorsport ones to come, and could not stop the car wheel spinning in first and second. Even with a quaife diff.

In my opinion well worth the money!

derekd 01-09-2008 09:35 AM

hi mate think there s around 10 on the rs2000-16v.co.uk site already intrested :) so there is a big market for these sell them on ebay in germany too and u will make a few quid well sot after over there:) could also start a few group buys on these sure they will shift no probs?? cheers derek p.s your welcome to pop in www.rs2000-16v.co.uk

NUTS RuS 01-09-2008 10:12 AM

Thanks Derek.

Is that your site ?

Tony

derekd 01-09-2008 10:34 AM

no not my site mate :) but we are a god bunch of lads so a trader who wants to help us out is more than welcome:) these are a bad point on our cars many use royal mail van arms but there not easy to get hold of so these would be ideal if the price is right :)

danrs2k 01-09-2008 10:46 AM

Put my down i want somw of these if you can do them at the right price :grin:

Also see this link: http://www.rs2000-16v.co.uk/forum/to...TOPIC_ID=28143

NUTS RuS 13-12-2008 11:01 AM

I have just sent a few sets down into the machine shop for production.

Still about a week away yet but they will be fully adjustable for camber as that seemed to be the main requirement.

Thanks

Tony

pa_sjo 13-12-2008 11:05 AM

It's the rear bush that's the main problem.. Camber adjustment is only useful to boy racer who want to drop their car on the deck and then cry about tyre wear :cry:

NUTS RuS 13-12-2008 11:16 AM

Rear bushes are being changed for high load bearings, I took that as standard in a modified arm pa_sjo with the next mod being camber adjustment. That needs to be done without just elongating the original holes and sliding the ball joint out.

We wouldn't do it like that in motorsport so wouldnt expect it on a road arm.

pa_sjo 13-12-2008 06:49 PM

Excellent. I look forward to seeing them.

Mark_ 14-12-2008 01:06 PM

ive just popped over from the rs2000 site, and yes there is a big gap in the market and you will sell loads if the are reasonable priced. id deffinately buy a set as i kill genuine ford arms every 6-8mths

Rides 16-12-2008 03:39 PM

So just wondering how this was going??? have you got a set done yet

NUTS RuS 16-12-2008 11:52 PM

They were only started on Monday Rides as posted above

Rides 16-12-2008 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by NUTS RuS (Post 3809406)
They were only started on Monday Rides as posted above

yeah seen that after I posted LOL.. sorry mate

So what sort of price will you be doing these for then, cause I could deffo do with some... my RS at 40mm is killing my front tyres and before anything is said that car was that low when i bought it.. Im looking at getting full new gaz shocks in the new year..and only want abouts 20-30mm drop but will have the benifit of the adjustable suspension for a few track days in the summer...

NUTS RuS 17-12-2008 12:12 AM

no problem nice to know someone is reading :)

Prices are not finalised yet.

Watch this space :top:

3i_gaz 17-12-2008 09:33 PM

i know a lad who is VERY interested in some of these, was going to buy some area six ones but told him to hold back on them.

cant wait for updates, the prices for the area six ones etc... are a joke IMO for what they are

NUTS RuS 17-12-2008 09:53 PM

Pre orders are being stacked up in the order they are received.

No commitment but you do get first shout if your names on my list lol

Johnny Knoxville 18-12-2008 05:52 AM

Will they have caster adjustment?

NUTS RuS 18-12-2008 07:15 AM

On a triangulated arm ?

Camber yes but caster is a little more awkward and would need to be built in

Bondy1 18-12-2008 07:23 AM

Get to work Nuts, dont forget to pick us up in the morning mate 5:30am please.

Mark_ 19-12-2008 07:06 PM

if im not on your list then please add

cosevo 20-12-2008 10:41 AM

good work mate, am after some new ones for the 16i in the new year when I get some cash together, and I'm sure ive seen some adjustable rears to allow rear camber to be adjusted, also plan on gaz coilovers

NUTS RuS 31-12-2008 10:15 PM

Now in Traders section

https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3841372

NUTS RuS 16-01-2009 03:33 PM

Can run a group buy on them if anyones interested in taking the orders off the other forums.

Prices drop to around £200 per set for the full spec arms


Tony

16vzetec 18-01-2009 09:11 PM

right, the problem with the lower arms is there is too much flex in the bushes.
i looked into making tubular ones but they cannot match the std ones for twisting forces.
the answer is the spherical rose joints tacked in place.
these made an instant improvement with torque steer and general cornering with no noticable harshness added.
my advice is std arms + seam welded for extra strength + rose joints + elongated holes for the ball joint to pull the wheels in slightly.
there would be a market for a brace bar to go from arm to arm using the front arm mounting bolts.
thats area that needs bracing.
also a useful tip: mk5's have 0 degrees castor which causes them to wander in a straight line.
the mk6's have a few degrees added by having different front turret tops.
the mk5's can use spherical top mounts to sit the shocks back as far as possible.
hope this helps.
any info needed please just ask.
mike

It's Czech Mate 26-02-2009 11:32 AM

Tony I reckon you'll have a lot of takers for a mk5 fiesta Z-S if they arent too expensive

try sounding the lads out on here... www.zsoc.com .....

shalon 26-02-2009 06:47 PM

hi just wonderin if there would be production of mk3 fez as there the same principle

NUTS RuS 26-02-2009 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mondeo Man (Post 3976050)
Tony I reckon you'll have a lot of takers for a mk5 fiesta Z-S if they arent too expensive

try sounding the lads out on here... www.zsoc.com .....

A group buy is already being discussed with someone for the Fiesta arms thanks :top: They are at the powder coaters at the minute, being re coated after the seam welding.

Mk3 ones can be done on an individual basis as and when required yes, as like you say they are similar.

Tony


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