Makes you wonder if they keep delaying it because it simply isn't good enough? When a game is delayed indefinately its usually because it has either major problems or the developer/distributor is not happy with end product. All that ever gets shown is screenshots which are pointless. So many times we've seen 'actual in game screenshots' which turn out not to be true I've got a PS3 but I'm already bored of GT5 before it comes out.

I'm a GT fanboy but I'll stick with forza 3 on the 360. At this rate Forza 4 will not be far off GT5.