oh and the only reason i got the citroen c4 was it was 3 years old when i got it, 2.0 16v diesel, remapped ecu so putting out app 165 bhp (140 standard) and had every possible extra and was actually a pleasure to drive...... for the first few weeks but i killed the thing i screwed the nuts out of it, although the engine is bullet proof everything else was falling to bits, gear linkage held together with cable ties etc. when i got it, twas mint and it stood me in at £2600, not bad for such a high spec 3 year old motor which put alot of cars to misery, in a straight line easily would have nailed my st170, it had masses of torque.......but nothing escapes the fact that it was a french green house (panaromic glass roof) and was utter shite lol