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Old 07-09-2015, 01:52 PM
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(as title) stage 2 chip T3 standard turbo 3 bar map sensor fuel pressure set to 3.5 bar without vacuum on. new spark plugs sensors gaps all good etc. any ideas? cheers folks..
Old 07-09-2015, 03:06 PM
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mines doing the same. spec stage 2 chip 3 bar map sensor -31 actuator 803 greens boost set to 1.7 bar peak holding at 1.5 going to rolling road this week to try get it sorted. if anything comes of it i will let you know what they say
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Hi mate sounds like im in the same boat also im running 803s -31 actuator ive tried adjusting the ecu mixture screw but cant seem to get it right. Baffling to say the least. No problem as soon as i get to the bottom of it il update also if you beat me to it let me know please cheers mate.

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Old 07-09-2015, 05:37 PM
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Mine was similar. Found the vacuum hose had come off the map sensor
Old 07-09-2015, 06:33 PM
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hi mate ive check that but cheers
Old 07-09-2015, 07:01 PM
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same here.On the rollers soon to get it sorted out.

Get a big flame out the back sometimes which looks the bollocks but dunno how healthy that is
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Check your coolant temp sensor this gives the same symptoms if out of range.
Old 07-09-2015, 07:25 PM
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haha flames are great as long as its doing no damage . ive changed the cts,cps,phase sensor,map sensor,new plugs and rotor arm etc, be interesting to see if anything shows up on the rollers hope you get it sorted mate
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:54 PM
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quick update, i have now fitted the T34/55 and its not changed the issues (i was upgrading anyway) the car hesitates badly and backires and kangaroos its as if its getting too much or not enough fuel? if i clean the spark plugs and take it for a drive they are sooted up as soon as i check them.

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has anybody got some sort of guide to setting this thing up eg: fuel mixture etc as these chips are supposed to be plug and play.... Thanks folks`
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anyone anything?
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what plug gaps are you running? and are you just adjusting the c02 screw willy nilly or do you have it hooked up to a gas analyser whilst doing so because if not its pointless just playing with the screw
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0.8 plug gaps, im just going off what people are saying 5 full turns then 2 back but i dont have the use of an analyser
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i have also fitted a 340 chip from brands hatch performance its classed as a stage 2 but i thought around 340 was stage 3?
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i have heard some poor things on here about some of the stuff from brands hatch performance but haveno experience of them myself so cannot comment, the screw should only beplayed with whilst using an analyser otherwise its as accurate as sticking your finger out of the window to gauge wind speed lol. my old cossie was doing similar thou i gapped the plugs to 0.6 that stopped any back firing , but it turned out to be my map sensor at faut causing the overfuelling, it was that bad the oil was being topped up with petrol!!
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i do have a new map sensor like i will check my oil etc cheers mate
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right strange one. out of curiosity i plugged in my 2 bar map sensor and the car runs much much better not 100 percent but better

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also i have now bought a motorsport developments chip to try as i hear loads of good things about them.

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well today didnt go great! seems stupid and should of thought of it first! not enough voltage to my fuel pump. just ordered a new bosch 044 fuel pump and msd wiring loom relay
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yes mate at least youve got to the problem now i have a new 044 fitted and i must say the pump never has a continious noise tone its always up and down etc as if its not sucking enough fuel. nightmare im having mate ive ordered a msd chip to see if that sorts the thing out.
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Mine turned out to be a dodgy plug,new set fitted the other night and normal service has resumed
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happy days mate i think my problem lies within the fuel tank i am running a bog standard 1.6 tank with a bosch 044 well i dont think the tank has a swirl pot so i put Ł25 of fuel in and it perks right up as with the fuel line off i was turning it over and there was NOT a continious flow so hopefully with the cossie tank fitted should sort it.. fingers crossed.
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Old 23-09-2015, 09:13 PM
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UPDATE! fitted new tank new fuel lines, binned the aftermarket FPR, fitted original FPR set the pressure and bang! its alive now needs to go for a full proper setup then pray the good old british weather lets me enjoy it for a bit.
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Great news, do get it set up and I would get it along to MSD for a good check over and maybe a live map if they can.
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cheers mate unfortunatley MSD is quite a distance from me or believe me they would be first choice but a tuner local to me is going to sort it. cheers for all the suggestions too!
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