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Old 05-02-2015, 11:03 PM
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ok so I bought my sierra cosworth from a chap that knew nothing about it,


I was given a folder and there are recipts for the following
bosch 803s and chip -32 actuator.


its dynod at 243bhp and running 9psi I thought with 803s and chip it should be able to run 15psi and be able to make 330+


tempted to get a boost controller and give it the 15psi and see how she goes.


thought plz ?


it has t 34+big intercooler so no worries about making the boost or cooling.

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I would take it to someone and get it mapped properly instead of winding up the boost. You need the fuelling correct along with timing. I would get it live mapped and end up with a more responsive and faster car.
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I would take it to someone and get it mapped properly instead of winding up the boost. You need the fuelling correct along with timing. I would get it live mapped and end up with a more responsive and faster car.



Great advice greens can fuel 350 bhp easy boost holding 23psi.


Get it set up and checked.
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I dident think you could remap a l6 ?
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Take it to a specialist.
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Originally Posted by Richard89cosworth
I dident think you could remap a l6 ?
You can bud, weber mappers are Tony @ TurboSystems , MSD, NMS, all very good.

Where in the country are you??
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You can live map the L6 no problem at all mate. It looks something like this:

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Stu, When you was mapping the crystal blue saff, was James in the car???


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Default chip/tune

ensure chip is of good known origin[msd,collins etc]
check basic engine is up to coping with the upgrade
make sure fuel pump is getting good power supply[nice fresh pump harness helps]-new quality fuel filter and good strong pump
set fuel pressure to chip providers spec[normally standard]
make sure plugs/leads/cap/sensors all a1[plus all connections]
make sure all hoses/clips pipework secure -particularly fpr/actuator related
set co to chip providers spec
set boost to level recommended by chip provider

would recommend not held at load for long untill afr/det checked on road or dyno

people wonder why a tune up /upgrade costs a few quid and they put in a car needing lots of work before any upgrades begin...

9 psi isnt a lot of boost on greens...most run 3x that it would seem
when i firs had cossies in late 80s/early 90s stage 3 was 21psi
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Tony, do you remember the old stg 2 light green conversion. For about 290 bhp.
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Originally Posted by costina
Stu, When you was mapping the crystal blue saff, was James in the car???


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yes thats how we normally do it
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
yes thats how we normally do it
lol James it just looked odd. Seemed like Stu was increasing throttle with his left hand.

All good stuff eh

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Originally Posted by costina
Tony, do you remember the old stg 2 light green conversion. For about 290 bhp.
yes i do-that was when stage 1 was normally a massive 12-14psi lol
i think it was a "safe" option as generic mapping was in its infancy then

for 5 turbos we just used to wind the boost up using the actuator and use pallet banding to help hold the intercooler together[plus unplug the boost protection sensor]-as far as checking the fuelling well erm...we didnt in those days
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Originally Posted by tony66
yes i do-that was when stage 1 was normally a massive 12-14psi lol
i think it was a "safe" option as generic mapping was in its infancy then

for 5 turbos we just used to wind the boost up using the actuator and use pallet banding to help hold the intercooler together[plus unplug the boost protection sensor]-as far as checking the fuelling well erm...we didnt in those days
Its come a long way since those days but its still easy to kill a cossie if set up wrong.

Theres was a fella around here had many cossies that every engine had blown. He bragged his chip that he used was a cossie killer.!

Muppet....
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Originally Posted by costina
lol James it just looked odd. Seemed like Stu was increasing throttle with his left hand.

All good stuff eh

Paul
I assume you mean this one Paul?

Basically, in that mode, I tell the dyno what revs it should allow the engine to accelerate to and then I map that area. When im done, I tell the dyno to allow a rev increase of the engine so i can map the next site.

James in this video just holds a steady throttle to control the load site. IE: James adjusts throttle a little to maintain between 7 and 9 psi of boost (5th red box along on the screen) while I also control the dyno in order to ensure the engine is stopped at the RPM site i want it at. So every time I press the up button, the dyno allows the engine to increase rpm by anything I want from 10rpm to 1000rpm. (Set to 100rpm in that video so 3 presses is 300rpm)

The load and RPM control on our dyno is truly awesome and makes mapping an absolute breeze.
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Cheers mate that clears that up. Very good bit of kit you have there.

Whats the highest bhp so far?

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Thanks lads will have to see who in Ireland has the right settup to map it
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