Mk2 granada; phantom driver, starts by itself - help!
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Mk2 granada; phantom driver, starts by itself - help!
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Mk2 2.8 V6 granada 1982.
Has been fine, started a few days ago and started fine, then starter motor engaged and stayed engaged whilst the engine was running, turned off and removed key and engine stopped then restarted a few seconds later with starter continually running (key fully removed). I have disconnected the battery to stop it. There are 2 wires connected to the positive terminal, a thick red one which I assume is for the spark and a thinner black one which seems to operate the lights etc... Including the starter motor. I have eliminated the ignition barrel by disconnecting the wiring; the the engine starts and runs normally once the thinner black wire is a disconnect from the battery.
Any ideas?
This is my first time on a forum so apologies if this in the wrong section.
Thanks in advance
Adam
Mk2 2.8 V6 granada 1982.
Has been fine, started a few days ago and started fine, then starter motor engaged and stayed engaged whilst the engine was running, turned off and removed key and engine stopped then restarted a few seconds later with starter continually running (key fully removed). I have disconnected the battery to stop it. There are 2 wires connected to the positive terminal, a thick red one which I assume is for the spark and a thinner black one which seems to operate the lights etc... Including the starter motor. I have eliminated the ignition barrel by disconnecting the wiring; the the engine starts and runs normally once the thinner black wire is a disconnect from the battery.
Any ideas?
This is my first time on a forum so apologies if this in the wrong section.
Thanks in advance
Adam
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Thanks Glen, I disconnected the ignition switch from the loom and it still starts by itself :-( if the switch was worn, fully disconnecting it would stop power getting to the starter right? I am only a novice mechanic so please tell me if I am wrong
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Thanks Glen, I disconnected the ignition switch from the loom and it still starts by itself :-( if the switch was worn, fully disconnecting it would stop power getting to the starter right? I am only a novice mechanic so please tell me if I am wrong
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im not sure mate where its situated with ford it could be anywhere but if you do find it open it up and have a look inside to see if it f^&ked
it will get veryhot if it stays on ,so best find it
ps ,thats if it is the problem
might be worth changing the starter /solenoid aswell
it will get veryhot if it stays on ,so best find it
ps ,thats if it is the problem
might be worth changing the starter /solenoid aswell
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Just had a look at the fuse box and I assume the ignition relay is marked with a lightning bolt in a triangle. I swapped the relay for the horn relay as they are the same and it still starts by itself :-(
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No, the heavy duty wire will connect to the solenoid, there will also be another wire going to this, this is the switched feed to the starter, I don't think there will be a relay.
The other wire from the battery will feed the whole electrical system, assuming it's OE.
If it were me I would disconnect the said wire from the starter (thinner one) disconnect battery before doing so, if it still starts then you have a problem with the solenoid.
Martin
The other wire from the battery will feed the whole electrical system, assuming it's OE.
If it were me I would disconnect the said wire from the starter (thinner one) disconnect battery before doing so, if it still starts then you have a problem with the solenoid.
Martin
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