Shit brakes on my 2wd cosworth

Rollin Rides · 15-03-2010, 08:36 PM

Right i have rebuilt all the brakes on my saph, they all work proppely just dont seem too have the power to slow you down quick enough.
The discs are black diamond grooved ones and im running EBC red stuff pads.

I would like better braking just dont wont to change my wheels which are escort cosworth 8x16.
Please anyone with ideas help my out i have seen some on Ebay just abit exspensive.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SIERRA-CO...item483955ce55

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tabetha · 15-03-2010, 09:33 PM

How many miles have the discs pads done ?
Did the pads have the break in coating on them a really rough surface like a ripply surface ?
They should feel extremly good do they need bleeding or is the pedal hard, with no free play, when you rebuilt your brakes do you mean new seals etc, as the pistons regularly seize on 2wd, my car had 6 out of 8 seized when I got it.
tabetha

bad boy rs · 15-03-2010, 10:16 PM

get some ds2500 pads off matt lewis mate

Rollin Rides · 16-03-2010, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabetha

How many miles have the discs pads done ?
Did the pads have the break in coating on them a really rough surface like a ripply surface ?
They should feel extremly good do they need bleeding or is the pedal hard, with no free play, when you rebuilt your brakes do you mean new seals etc, as the pistons regularly seize on 2wd, my car had 6 out of 8 seized when I got it.
tabetha

pads where band new as were the discs. new rear calipers and complete over haul on fronts ie; pistons, seal, dust covers...
what are my opitions?

m4tt274 · 16-03-2010, 12:18 AM

myn will jam the wheels solid. they stop you brillianty.. once, maybe twice lol they fade like mad

tabetha · 16-03-2010, 06:10 PM

The redstuff has better co effecient friction wise at lower temps, so work better sooner, there's something seriously wrong, are they binding at all ?, if they were they could be overheating, the ebc pads with brake in coating can be a bit hairy, I usually take the brake anti rattle shim off the rear of the pad as well, did you need to apply any force to get them in ?, some aftermarket pistons can be a tad longer and so the new pads, new discs can cause a bit of binding, but you'd notice this as soon as pulling away.
tabetha

Rollin Rides · 17-03-2010, 10:50 PM

brakes work like they should ie; no binding they just dont slow me down quick enough. every thing is good just when ur havin it and really need them like coming up to a roundabout and stamp them on they just dont grab you that much. i do like to brake late!

JoeRS22 · 17-03-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollin Rides

brakes work like they should ie; no binding they just dont slow me down quick enough. every thing is good just when ur havin it and really need them like coming up to a roundabout and stamp them on they just dont grab you that much. i do like to brake late!

A= brake earlier...

B= sell the car...

C= get your tight wallet out and buy some bigger brakes!!!!!!!

Rollin Rides · 17-03-2010, 11:47 PM

joe i still want my wheels... why is it so hard to find some!!!!!!

tabetha · 18-03-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollin Rides

brakes work like they should ie; no binding they just dont slow me down quick enough. every thing is good just when ur havin it and really need them like coming up to a roundabout and stamp them on they just dont grab you that much. i do like to brake late!

You sound just like me, I must admit if doing say 80 plus(on a private road) they don't stop as quick as I'd like, think it's more down to the relatively small diametre disc considering the weight of the car, and the likely speeds, if I have to stamp on from speed my bum cheeks clench a bit!!
Time for a brake upgrade, I have me FRS brackets ready for me 2wd 4 pots, just got to get the discs, when I get me new wheels, but having trouble finding exactly what I want.
tabetha

Rollin Rides · 18-03-2010, 05:31 PM

does any one no if you can fit the brembos under 16" wheels?
Has anyone dont it and can help me. cheeRS

m4tt274 · 18-03-2010, 06:59 PM

seal kit in the master cylinder. how many miles has the master cylinder done?

Rollin Rides · 19-03-2010, 01:07 AM

80,000? i dont get any fade....

kcosneil · 19-03-2010, 08:57 AM

i've got ebc drilled and grooved disc and yellow stuff pads on my escort cossie.

not to good around town but when your bomming about and they get hot there pretty good.

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m4tt274 PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Doncaster Posts: 3,218 Rep Power: 6	seal kit in the master cylinder. how many miles has the master cylinder done? __________________ mk1 fiesta restoration! - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...-now-on-d.html

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kcosneil Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: middlesex Posts: 304 Rep Power: 5	i've got ebc drilled and grooved disc and yellow stuff pads on my escort cossie. not to good around town but when your bomming about and they get hot there pretty good. __________________ Last edited by kcosneil; 19-03-2010 at 08:58 AM.

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15-03-2010, 09:33 PM	#2
tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	How many miles have the discs pads done ? Did the pads have the break in coating on them a really rough surface like a ripply surface ? They should feel extremly good do they need bleeding or is the pedal hard, with no free play, when you rebuilt your brakes do you mean new seals etc, as the pistons regularly seize on 2wd, my car had 6 out of 8 seized when I got it. tabetha

16-03-2010, 06:10 PM	#6
tabetha BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk Posts: 24,646 Rep Power: 0	The redstuff has better co effecient friction wise at lower temps, so work better sooner, there's something seriously wrong, are they binding at all ?, if they were they could be overheating, the ebc pads with brake in coating can be a bit hairy, I usually take the brake anti rattle shim off the rear of the pad as well, did you need to apply any force to get them in ?, some aftermarket pistons can be a tad longer and so the new pads, new discs can cause a bit of binding, but you'd notice this as soon as pulling away. tabetha

17-03-2010, 10:50 PM	#7
Rollin Rides Anyting forsale let me no Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hertFORDshire Posts: 424 Rep Power: 6	brakes work like they should ie; no binding they just dont slow me down quick enough. every thing is good just when ur havin it and really need them like coming up to a roundabout and stamp them on they just dont grab you that much. i do like to brake late!

17-03-2010, 11:47 PM	#9
Rollin Rides Anyting forsale let me no Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hertFORDshire Posts: 424 Rep Power: 6	joe i still want my wheels... why is it so hard to find some!!!!!!

18-03-2010, 05:31 PM	#11
Rollin Rides Anyting forsale let me no Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hertFORDshire Posts: 424 Rep Power: 6	does any one no if you can fit the brembos under 16" wheels? Has anyone dont it and can help me. cheeRS

19-03-2010, 01:07 AM	#13
Rollin Rides Anyting forsale let me no Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hertFORDshire Posts: 424 Rep Power: 6	80,000? i dont get any fade....

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