escort van advise trouble starting

jono55d · 08-12-2009, 09:59 PM

hi, im looking for some help with my escort van. it just turns over without starting and eventully it does but then dies again. ive cracked off the injector pipes and there is fuel getting through so now im stumped. ive only had it for a week but its been fine up till now. any help would be great

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pani_k · 08-12-2009, 10:04 PM

Glow plugs? It really is getting pretty cold out there.

forevaford · 08-12-2009, 10:09 PM

glow plugs

jono55d · 08-12-2009, 10:10 PM

whats the best way of testing them? sorry in not much of a diesel man lol

crazyshad1 · 10-12-2009, 09:13 PM

rest the thread of the plug on 1 of the terminals of a car battery, run a length of wire from the other terminal of the battery and touch the end of the glow plug with the end of the wire, should start to glow red if not then its f*****. glow plugs dont explain why its cutting out, could be fuel pump fault?

cozzy jeff · 12-12-2009, 09:22 PM

instead of trying to start the car as soon as the glow plug light goes off wait till you here a click from under the bonnet this will be around 10 seconds,if your plugs are working this will help.put a multi metre on the glow plug and to earth then turn the ignition on to make sure your getting power to the glow plugs.

cabriolet · 12-12-2009, 09:25 PM

take the nuts off the glow plugs remove the wiring take a wire from plus side of battery touch each glow plug in turn if it sparks the glow is fine check the master fuse up by the battery they dont blow normally just fall apart my money is on filter housing fella

dan_m2k · 24-12-2009, 09:30 PM

I'm having a similar problem with my 1.8D (non-TD) van... got the battery charged and checked there's fuel at the injector, but it's just churning over and over.

The glow-plug light comes on and then goes off, and I've tried leaving the ignition on for a little longer... but she still won't fire up. I don't notice a clicking from the engine at all?!

Where is the glow plug relay/glow plugs, please? Could do with getting it moving again sometime this year...

Alvyn · 24-12-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_m2k

I'm having a similar problem with my 1.8D (non-TD) van... got the battery charged and checked there's fuel at the injector, but it's just churning over and over.

The glow-plug light comes on and then goes off, and I've tried leaving the ignition on for a little longer... but she still won't fire up. I don't notice a clicking from the engine at all?!

Where is the glow plug relay/glow plugs, please? Could do with getting it moving again sometime this year...

check the glow plugs main big fuse near the battery is still intacked!

dan_m2k · 24-12-2009, 10:15 PM

thanks -- like on the passenger side front wing or in the battery bay?

there's a single inline fuse holder that was attached to the battery that's never had a fuse in it, but i figured this was for the towbar or something?

TIA

Alvyn · 24-12-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_m2k

thanks -- like on the passenger side front wing or in the battery bay?

there's a single inline fuse holder that was attached to the battery that's never had a fuse in it, but i figured this was for the towbar or something?

TIA

right next to the battery should have a couple of BIG fuses in it the one your after is red(their usually corroded across the pin)

dan_m2k · 27-12-2009, 12:10 PM

Got it, thanks, the big red fuse (right on the battery) was fine... Tried it with a continuity tester and seems alright.

Can anyone point me in the direction of where to look for relay/glow plugs now please?

Alvyn · 27-12-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_m2k

Got it, thanks, the big red fuse (right on the battery) was fine... Tried it with a continuity tester and seems alright.

Can anyone point me in the direction of where to look for relay/glow plugs now please?

glow plugs are at the front of the engine joined together with a piece of wire running across the tops of them x4!

cozzy jeff · 27-12-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_m2k

Got it, thanks, the big red fuse (right on the battery) was fine... Tried it with a continuity tester and seems alright.

Can anyone point me in the direction of where to look for relay/glow plugs now please?

glow plug relay is on the passenger side inner wing large black one,according to the haynes manual ford did change the relay to a one that operates the glow plugs for longer, mite be worth checking that yours is the never version,have you taken a glow plug out to check if its working direct off the battery be careful as they do get really hot.if glow plugs arnt at there best it will certainly show in this cold weather.

dan_m2k · 27-12-2009, 02:02 PM

That's my next stop -- now I think I know what I'm looking for! I think I've identified the relay but on tracing it I can't seem to see anything obvious that looks glow plug like.

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm out of clues when it comes to derver's!

cozzy jeff · 27-12-2009, 02:48 PM

can you see the red wire running horizontal at the bottom of this picture?this is the feed that links the glow plugs.

cozzy jeff · 28-12-2009, 03:21 PM

did you manage to find them?heres a pick to help you out.

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cozzy jeff Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: jara Posts: 961 Rep Power: 6	instead of trying to start the car as soon as the glow plug light goes off wait till you here a click from under the bonnet this will be around 10 seconds,if your plugs are working this will help.put a multi metre on the glow plug and to earth then turn the ignition on to make sure your getting power to the glow plugs.

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cabriolet Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: selsey Posts: 734 Rep Power: 6	take the nuts off the glow plugs remove the wiring take a wire from plus side of battery touch each glow plug in turn if it sparks the glow is fine check the master fuse up by the battery they dont blow normally just fall apart my money is on filter housing fella

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dan_m2k Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LEEDS Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I'm having a similar problem with my 1.8D (non-TD) van... got the battery charged and checked there's fuel at the injector, but it's just churning over and over. The glow-plug light comes on and then goes off, and I've tried leaving the ignition on for a little longer... but she still won't fire up. I don't notice a clicking from the engine at all?! Where is the glow plug relay/glow plugs, please? Could do with getting it moving again sometime this year...

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dan_m2k Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LEEDS Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	thanks -- like on the passenger side front wing or in the battery bay? there's a single inline fuse holder that was attached to the battery that's never had a fuse in it, but i figured this was for the towbar or something? TIA

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dan_m2k Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LEEDS Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Got it, thanks, the big red fuse (right on the battery) was fine... Tried it with a continuity tester and seems alright. Can anyone point me in the direction of where to look for relay/glow plugs now please?

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dan_m2k Virgin Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LEEDS Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	That's my next stop -- now I think I know what I'm looking for! I think I've identified the relay but on tracing it I can't seem to see anything obvious that looks glow plug like. Thanks for all the help guys. I'm out of clues when it comes to derver's!

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cozzy jeff Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: jara Posts: 961 Rep Power: 6	can you see the red wire running horizontal at the bottom of this picture?this is the feed that links the glow plugs.

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cozzy jeff Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: jara Posts: 961 Rep Power: 6	did you manage to find them?heres a pick to help you out.

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