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Old 10-11-2009, 06:48 PM
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I have just bought this car. Cheap I know, I thought I was getting a bargain!!!

http://pistonheads.com/sales/1269181.htm

The car is in very good condition cosmetically but mechanically has been giving me grief already.

On the way home it wouldn't rev past 4K and would only boost to 0.2 bar, then a mile away from my house the top end started rattling like a tractor. The oil pressure light is nackered so I don't know if there's pressure and there is no dipstick due to him not fabricating one for the ZVH conversion. There are receipts for everything including zvh rebuild and T3 turbo and it hasn't done many miles since. I am totally new to Fords but not new to problems as I've had 3 R5 Turbos lol

Any advice on what steps I should take to see what the problems would be much appreciated
Old 10-11-2009, 06:58 PM
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drain all the oil out and refill it with 4.5 ltrs to see if its lack of oil causing the top end rattle
Old 10-11-2009, 07:02 PM
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Hi, thanks I will do that in the morning. Do you know what might be causing it not to rev past 4k? I know since the build it has run well as theres a printout for 208bhp.
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not sure whats wrong with it mate but you got that really cheap. my mate sold a 2.1 zvh engine with nothing on it ie no turbo, manifolds nothing, just the block £750. think you have the bargain of the century! if you cant fix it then sell it as you'll still make money with the problem present
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Yeh fuckin bargin
Old 11-11-2009, 11:00 AM
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Thought it was a good deal, loads of new bits on it too. The shell has no rot either which a bonus.
Old 11-11-2009, 01:52 PM
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bargain at that price,
put a oil pressure guage on the car,i would suspect its the oil pump worn or a blockage.
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was this from the Gravesend ish area by any chance???
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Originally Posted by boothy
Yeh fuckin bargin
where are you in kent?
Old 11-11-2009, 03:22 PM
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I bought it from the ashford area. I'm based nr Dover kent.
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ace price, wish i had bought it.
it could be several things so now you get the fun game of one by one going through each one until it just starts working again first tho i would just check all the connections and oil level/oil pump
ud be bonkers not to fit an oil pressure gauge on somthing like that. get one on it
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I have done a compression test today and got 12 bar on all cylinders does this sound about right? I drained the oil and there was hardly anything in it, put 4 litres of new oil in and the tappets have got much quieter. Checked turbo bearings and only very slight play. What is the sump capacity on the ZVH as mine doesnt have a dipstick? How would I go about about fitting an oil pressure gauge? Thanks, Mitch.
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Originally Posted by Mitch01roo
I have done a compression test today and got 12 bar on all cylinders does this sound about right? I drained the oil and there was hardly anything in it, put 4 litres of new oil in and the tappets have got much quieter. Checked turbo bearings and only very slight play. What is the sump capacity on the ZVH as mine doesnt have a dipstick? How would I go about about fitting an oil pressure gauge? Thanks, Mitch.
there should be a dipstick at the front of the engine??
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There is no dipstick, I phoned the seller and he said he didn't get around to fabricating a new dipstick tube after he did the conversion. All there is, is an oil hose that goes from where the dipstick should be, to somewhere under the turbo.
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Originally Posted by Mitch01roo
There is no dipstick, I phoned the seller and he said he didn't get around to fabricating a new dipstick tube after he did the conversion. All there is, is an oil hose that goes from where the dipstick should be, to somewhere under the turbo.
i fined this strange as you can use the 1.8 zetec prity much tbh
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Originally Posted by as355f1
drain all the oil out and refill it with 4.5 ltrs to see if its lack of oil causing the top end rattle
so he going to wast 4.5 leaters of new oil and there is a chance it will not sort the problem?

maby check to see if there is any oil presure first? or evon if there is any oil in the car at all for that matter
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so whats the internials of the engine then? whats managment is it running to fuel the zvh? what injectors ect ect
Old 11-11-2009, 05:19 PM
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I don't know a lot about about these cars tbh so excuse my lack of knowledge. He said the injectors are the biggest he could get and will support up to 250bhp. Uprated internals apparently not sure what. I'm picking up the rear seats from him on Sat so I will have a list of questions to ask him lol Does my compression test off 12 bar on all cylinders seem ok?
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sound like he has used the dipstick hole for the turbo oil return? if a pipe goes from dipstick to turbo?

We are only in Chatham Kent Medway RS Centre we could have a look f.o.c if you run it over advice is free
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biggest he could get lol i would want a biggggg list if he is telling you stuff like that lol did you road test the car when you bort it?
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Originally Posted by clarke5700
biggest he could get lol i would want a biggggg list if he is telling you stuff like that lol did you road test the car when you bort it?

He did tell me exactly what spec injectors pistons etc but it went over my head at the time as I havn't done any research on these cars. I was actually looking for another renault 5 turbo when I saw this. I road tested it and it coughed and it felt like it hit a rev limiter at 3.5k revs and the brakes were shockingly bad. But I see it as a good base as a project as most of the hard work has been done already and there is no rot. Are my compression test results ok?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by rspickup
sound like he has used the dipstick hole for the turbo oil return? if a pipe goes from dipstick to turbo?

We are only in Chatham Kent Medway RS Centre we could have a look f.o.c if you run it over advice is free
Brilliant. Thanks very much for that offer! When i've got an MOT on it I will definately bring it over to you.
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i dont know about that compression test becuase unknown head gasket and pistons, but because they are all the same i would have thought it will be fine.
get some more pics up of it.
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I will get some photos tomorrow, thanks.
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I have just found out the car has standard compression Wossner pistons, standard management and it has beige '701' injectors.

I need to remove the front hub assembly does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by clarke5700
so he going to wast 4.5 leaters of new oil and there is a chance it will not sort the problem?

maby check to see if there is any oil presure first? or evon if there is any oil in the car at all for that matter
for the sake of £10 yes its worth it !
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