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Old 04-02-2015, 10:13 PM
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So i've been floating around these forum's for a while now and thought i might as well get my car on here to give me motivation to actually work on it..
Right, I'm 15 and from the very North of Scotland. Literally the very top. You go any further, you fall off.
I have a 1970 Mk2 Cortina 1600e in need of a big restoration.
So... We pulled it put of the field after sitting in my uncle's friends farm and thats where the journey starts.
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Will post more tomorrow night!
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Good job you don't need to drive it for a couple of years.

Is that all you have or do you have glass interior lights and all the other missing parts etc?
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Got a lot of parts, doors, bonnet, bootlid, glass, some interior and planning on putting an Essex in it. Although I've got all the Mk2 Capri 3.0 running gear. Needs to be done early 2016 haha!
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This is going to be a epic restoration!
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Originally Posted by NobbyClark
This is going to be a epic restoration!
That's what I'm hoping for haha, going to try to make it a bit different though!
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bit of surface rust ... be watching this.
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Originally Posted by andy.v
bit of surface rust ... be watching this.
Yeah I sandblasted it and primered it, all the surface rust gone! Will get the pictures up tonight!
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Looks a good base, how long had it been sitting for?
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Looks a good base, how long had it been sitting for?
Yeah the shell is solid other than sills, rear arches and a couple bits and bobs.
Was sitting in that barn, half covered for around 30 years. So went through rain and snow etc. Very good for how long it sat.
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Very nice car matey! And another good ol' ford c
Saved! Things don't get much cooler than a slammed mk2 tina!
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Originally Posted by sridgett
Very nice car matey! And another good ol' ford c
Saved! Things don't get much cooler than a slammed mk2 tina!
Thanks! Yeah I couldn't let this car die! Been in the family since new, apart from sitting for 30 years obviously haha. Yeah should be cool man!
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Originally Posted by Mk2TinaRyan
That's what I'm hoping for haha, going to try to make it a bit different though!
Cool. I'm really looking forward to the updates on this!!
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I'm gona keep an eye on this! Looks like a cool build, good luck with it!
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Well done, Love seeing other young guys (I'm only 21) into their Classic Fords.
Will be watching with interest.
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So after it was pulled out, i had to make some form of way to transport it rather than using a trailer because the trailer was not ours.. So I made this -
IMG_1238 by ryancameron01, on Flickr
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The car was then taken to a friend's garage to use his sandblaster. So I sandblasted the whole thing and slapped some primer on there.

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Underside went from this (covered in red lead shite and different colours) - 10922018_843674232361209_2041026415_n by ryancameron01, on Flickr

To this (beauty) - 10866956_843674165694549_417052545_n by ryancameron01, on Flickr



So we took it back and put all the doors, bonnet and boot lid and lined it all up before we start cutting all the shit out and replacing a lot.
IMG_1492 by ryancameron01, on Flickr
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Then, we stripped all the doors etc off after being aligned, hooked an endless chain to the roof (lazy man's way of lifting it without a hydraulic jack) and put her up on the jig!
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Spit was modified by me to lower it so that the car could actually rotate in the garage lol.
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We then went out to a friend's 'house' / workplace and found an old shitty rotting unrestorable capri and cut 6 feet of the front so that we could use the chassis legs for my cortina. So, we're cutting the chassis legs off my cortina and putting capri ones in... Bigger engine.

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By the way in the background of that photo ^^ thats my dad's custom cab transit, turned from a tipper into a articulated truck
Pulls a 32 foot long trailer that is also homemade and kitted out with caravan interior from a wrecked caravan. Driven a couple of times from Caithness all the way down to Goodwood (around 17 hours) and never missed a beat

Not that long ago i then stuck the mk2 capri 3.0 axle on the car with some capri pepperpots and im seeing a problem with the width

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That's all for now, will get some more updates on the weekend, thanks for the kind words guys
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This looks like an awesome project!
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great project keep up the hard work will be worth it in the end and such a cool first car
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Originally Posted by The Crocodile Hunter
This looks like an awesome project!
Thanks! Hopefully!!
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Originally Posted by turbolee
great project keep up the hard work will be worth it in the end and such a cool first car
Yeah getting stuff done on the weekends, yeah will be different! Not sure how it will be on insurance!
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15 years old and taking in a project like this?

Fantastic pal! Be a good build to watch.
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Originally Posted by Carlos-Titx
15 years old and taking in a project like this?

Fantastic pal! Be a good build to watch.
Been around old rusty things since day 1! And I do love a challenge
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gonna love the updates on this cool project, liking the tranny and trailer, any more pics of it.
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Originally Posted by andy.v
gonna love the updates on this cool project, liking the tranny and trailer, any more pics of it.
Will take some pics and get them up ASAP. It's for sale if anyone's interested
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just noticed ya only 15, ya doing a cracking job.
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Originally Posted by andy.v
just noticed ya only 15, ya doing a cracking job.
Yeah comes as a surprise to most haha, thanks!!
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You will need to narrow up an atlas to get the wheels to sit right, depending on how wide your wheels are look out for a narrow or baby.


i'm running 9's on mine can't remember of the top of my head but think its a 48''.


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Originally Posted by jamie956
You will need to narrow up an atlas to get the wheels to sit right, depending on how wide your wheels are look out for a narrow or baby.


i'm running 9's on mine can't remember of the top of my head but think its a 48''.


Yeah that's what I've been looking for thanks!
What I was also thinking of doing was widening the wings (not the arches) and making them the same length at front and back but kind of bubbled in the middle of the wing. Will get some pictures up to show but yeah thanks!
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My V6 Cortina II, that I built back in 1978, had a Capri 3.0 axle and gearbox. Didn't have any width issues but I did have to flatten up the arch inner lip. Gearbox needed the tunnel cutting of course and a cable clutch and a Zodiac rev counter to count the extra cylinders. A Mk 1 Granada rad was squeezed in and worked fine with an electric fan and I had a Holly 4-barrel on a custom built manifold - there was a chap in Kent making them back then as well as the two 3-branch exhausts by a chap down near Brands Hatch that I cant recall now.

Best time at Santa Pod was 16.00.

By today's standards it wasn't amazing but all built in the street (and then a lockup) with a 100yd extension, including welding and spraying. The old Rover and blue Mk2 were mine also and I also bought and sold the Austin A70 Hereford you can see in teh 3rd pic. It was running, part restored and came with a warehouse full of NOS Austin parts, mostly chrome trim. Think I paid Ł300 and sold it for Ł400 - a lot in those days. I sold the V6 in about 1982 for around Ł850 I think. Still the top of my list of my previously owned cars I wish I could have back.




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Originally Posted by Vacuman
My V6 Cortina II, that I built back in 1978, had a Capri 3.0 axle and gearbox. Didn't have any width issues but I did have to flatten up the arch inner lip. Gearbox needed the tunnel cutting of course and a cable clutch and a Zodiac rev counter to count the extra cylinders. A Mk 1 Granada rad was squeezed in and worked fine with an electric fan and I had a Holly 4-barrel on a custom built manifold - there was a chap in Kent making them back then as well as the two 3-branch exhausts by a chap down near Brands Hatch that I cant recall now.

Best time at Santa Pod was 16.00.

By today's standards it wasn't amazing but all built in the street (and then a lockup) with a 100yd extension, including welding and spraying. The old Rover and blue Mk2 were mine also and I also bought and sold the Austin A70 Hereford you can see in teh 3rd pic. It was running, part restored and came with a warehouse full of NOS Austin parts, mostly chrome trim. Think I paid Ł300 and sold it for Ł400 - a lot in those days. I sold the V6 in about 1982 for around Ł850 I think. Still the top of my list of my previously owned cars I wish I could have back.




Awesome car! What width wheels did you have on it and was it the standard axle? Car would be worth a lot today anyway, nice build! Is that the capri double headlights too?
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Here's some pics of the Transit and Trailer. Trailer also has 6ftx6ft open space (we used it for karting).
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Small update on the tina, got the chassis legs stripped off that capri. They're a bitty rusty but i'll clean that up
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Mk1 3 litre Capri had the narrow Atlas axle, I had one in a Mk1 3 litre Escort with standard arches a very long time ago.
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Originally Posted by Mark V8
Mk1 3 litre Capri had the narrow Atlas axle, I had one in a Mk1 3 litre Escort with standard arches a very long time ago.
Trying to find one is proving difficult, and they're quite expensive! Well not fit for a budget of a 15 year old who's been saving for some time haha.
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Why do you want to use an atlas would be easier & cheaper to sick with a English.
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> Awesome car! What width wheels did you have on it and was it the standard axle? Car would be worth a lot today anyway, nice build! Is that the capri double headlights too?

Axle was a Mk2 3.0l Capri I think. Might have been Mk1, standard diff (3.55?) and brakes. The wheels were 6.5" I think with 185/70's (forgive my memory, it was 35 years ago). The headlights where from a Vauxhall...Ventura I think, with the Cortina grill trimmed to fit and Escort Mk2 indicators cut into the original bumper. Paint was Ford Diamond White with a tan vinyl roof - matching the fashions of the day and was an option on the Mk2 Capri's and Mk4 Cortina's at the time.

Springs were uprated/lowered at the front and lowering blocks under standard springs at the rear with Spax all round. Brakes were standard but with a servo.

Steering was original and a bit of a weakpoint. The box chewed itself when parking one night at the flicks. Had to go to the breakers next day, extract another for a fiver and then, in the street, mount it to my car to get home.

BTW - propshaft was two-piece, really easy, 2.0l Cortina front half spliced to a 3.0l rear half with suitable mounted welded in the tunnel. Perfect length.

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Originally Posted by jamie956
Why do you want to use an atlas would be easier & cheaper to sick with a English.
True, is the english shorter? However i already have an atlas so i don't need to spend more money on another axle when i could just use the one i've got!
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Originally Posted by Vacuman
> Awesome car! What width wheels did you have on it and was it the standard axle? Car would be worth a lot today anyway, nice build! Is that the capri double headlights too?

Axle was a Mk2 3.0l Capri I think. Might have been Mk1, standard diff (3.55?) and brakes. The wheels were 6.5" I think with 185/70's (forgive my memory, it was 35 years ago). The headlights where from a Vauxhall...Ventura I think, with the Cortina grill trimmed to fit and Escort Mk2 indicators cut into the original bumper. Paint was Ford Diamond White with a tan vinyl roof - matching the fashions of the day and was an option on the Mk2 Capri's and Mk4 Cortina's at the time.

Springs were uprated/lowered at the front and lowering blocks under standard springs at the rear with Spax all round. Brakes were standard but with a servo.

Steering was original and a bit of a weakpoint. The box chewed itself when parking one night at the flicks. Had to go to the breakers next day, extract another for a fiver and then, in the street, mount it to my car to get home.

BTW - propshaft was two-piece, really easy, 2.0l Cortina front half spliced to a 3.0l read half with suitable mounted welded in the tunnel. Perfect length.
Aw, the offset could be quite different on those wheels, but the capri pepperpots i have on it are 7.5" so that probably makes a difference. Vauxhall parts on a ford? come on now . But seriously they look cool haha. Wouldn't be a good idea to cut into an original grill these days

Servo from a capri im assuming, something like this IMG_1824 by ryancameron01, on Flickr

Yeah i'm fitting the capri 3.0 axle up front aswell, so will have the rack and pinion steering!

Was thinking if the propshaft was going to fit or not, so is the 2.0 half shorter?
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> Was thinking if the propshaft was going to fit or not, so is the 2.0 half shorter?

I think the Cortina Mk4 was longer than the Capri prop (which was too short) - hence the pick n mix as they share the same type of centre connection/bearing. All easy to do 35 years ago when such things were abundant in breakers.

Think I still have a Cortina boot badge somewhere and know I have the '5-speed' wood and brushed ally gear knob (but the box was only 4-speed) as it hangs proudly on the wall in my garage - I swapped back to the original Cortina one when I sold the car.

Here's another snap (sorry, feel like I've gatecrashed your party) of the engine (Stage 1) coming out of a Corsair, you can just see the Cortina at the rear waiting to receive it.




The other pic is me with my V6 Pop at Olympia Customer Car show in 1981. Also built using lots of Capri V6 parts including bulkhead & tunnel, engine and manual box, pedal box and servo etc. And also with Holly carb, alloy rocker covers, and the rest. Built after the Cortina, in a lock-up and welded, sanded & sprayed in the open (to the annoyance of my neighbours).
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looking forward to seeing how you get on with this project
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Originally Posted by Vacuman
> Was thinking if the propshaft was going to fit or not, so is the 2.0 half shorter?

I think the Cortina Mk4 was longer than the Capri prop (which was too short) - hence the pick n mix as they share the same type of centre connection/bearing. All easy to do 35 years ago when such things were abundant in breakers.

Think I still have a Cortina boot badge somewhere and know I have the '5-speed' wood and brushed ally gear knob (but the box was only 4-speed) as it hangs proudly on the wall in my garage - I swapped back to the original Cortina one when I sold the car.

Here's another snap (sorry, feel like I've gatecrashed your party) of the engine (Stage 1) coming out of a Corsair, you can just see the Cortina at the rear waiting to receive it.




The other pic is me with my V6 Pop at Olympia Customer Car show in 1981. Also built using lots of Capri V6 parts including bulkhead & tunnel, engine and manual box, pedal box and servo etc. And also with Holly carb, alloy rocker covers, and the rest. Built after the Cortina, in a lock-up and welded, sanded & sprayed in the open (to the annoyance of my neighbours).
Yeah i thought that, but thanks! Very useful information haha. Yeah i wish there was still that much parts around and wish there was still a lot of old fords around up in my area.

Got the original bootbadge for this thing upstairs in the garage! Would love a savage gearknob for the cortina but my luck in finding one will be very VERY slim. But we'll see.

Feel free to gatecrash some more, i love looking at old photos and hearing about old stories, especially when they involve classic fords!! That engine looks awesome, especially the polished rocker covers!

Love the Pop! Lovely colour too! A guy from up here has a completely standard restored pop, beautiful car. (he also just restored a Capri 3.1RS )

Some awesome builds you did, you got any classic fords now? Definitely reminds me of my dad's pictures and stories, custom built capri's and escort mexico's!


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