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Old 25-02-2014, 02:15 PM
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not sure on the mounting points mate but definately a different florr pan to acommodate the prop shaft
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Interesting pics of the engine there. I didnt know the balance shafts were in the sump.

On a 4x4 escort are the floor pans different. Also I take it they have different mounting points for the rear suspension.
Thanks Glenn, Yeah the balancer shafts make the galaxy sump much deeper than an RS one. I'll have plenty of detailed pics to come when the engine machining and rebuild takes place so keep an eye out for those.

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not sure on the mounting points mate but definately a different florr pan to acommodate the prop shaft
I'm sure that the actual main floorpan is basically the same apart from the prop mounting points, the tunnel isn't any deeper to accomodate the prop and floor carpets are the same on a 2wd and 4x4, etc. At the rear, the spare wheel well is shallower and offset to accomodate the diff. I think the chassis legs are also basically the same apart from the captive nuts for the rear subframe on the 4x4.
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Interesting info. I thought the rear end would be different.
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Great reading Stu, I thought mine was bad!!
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thanks mate, more updates soon as rusty will be moving garages in the next few weeks
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hit a bit of a barrier with old rusty, i spotted another, far rarer, mk5b 4x4 that i just had to save from the breakers. unfortunatly the wife gave me the ultimatum, rusty or the mk5b, i knew deep down that i wouldnt have the time to save them both, but the mk5b being the rarer of the two, plus the fact that it has a hell of a lot less rust issues ive made my choice and poor old rusty will now be totally stripped and sent off to the scrapyard in the sky.
sad times, but its parts will live on!
so yeah, i need to change the name of this resto thread soon lol, il post pics of the new one up over the next few days, and garys epic engine build will still be happening so theres that to look forward to!
once you see the new motor i think you will all agree that ive made the right choice
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Let me know if a rear suspension assembly comes up for sale please
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standard for 4x4 john? there most likely will be but not for a while mate
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its the right decision Stu by a mile that mk5 will go up in value far higher and faster than the mk6 with a lot less aggro

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that was my thinking steve, also its just a lot better looking lol i hate red cars. im with rusty now, and i reckon i must have had the blinkers on theres rust everywhere lol. il get some pics taken today in more detail
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the down side of it being sat up for years Stu. I need to crack on with mine and see what's what with it. I kick myself for not buying a tidy mk5b 4x4 a while back, ive not seen the garage owner for a while who had it.
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at least yours is tucked away somewhere dry now chris, looking forward to comparing rustys with you lol
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that's true Stu, i was up the unit on Friday working on the fiesta and had a quick look at the rs. Its still nice and dry but covered in thick dust lol. I would be interested to see how bad mine is compared to yours
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right here we go! got the last of my work bits into the new garages today, and moved the mk5b into the new man cave



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so thats that, ive decided to use a third garage up the yard for my vast amount of spares until i get the chance to sell the bits i dont need, i did a bit of stripping on the mk5b earlier (couldnt redist!) so ive already got a door stripped down, some interior trim and all the seats out with fixings bagged and tagged, but now with a space on the drive i need to bring the mk5b donor car home as its sitting on a good mates driveway and his missus isnt too happy about it! donor will need stripping right down to bare shell and then scrapping as its rust issues rival those of even rusty the red, once the donors outta the way it will be rustys turn to grace the driveway for another strip down to bare shell and then his final journey to the crusher. THEN i can carry on stripping the mk5b lol so got my work cut out for the summer!

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added pics of the garages if anyone wants to see

https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465329
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The garage in the pics above is mint. I hope when me and the mrs come to buy a new house I hope I can get a garage that size.
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Originally Posted by STU20004X4
standard for 4x4 john? there most likely will be but not for a while mate
Thanks mate yeah want to convert that set-up to a 2wd but its not moved since last June so in no rush lol
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Originally Posted by JOHNDQ


Thanks mate yeah want to convert that set-up to a 2wd but its not moved since last June so in no rush lol
i'l have a rear suspension set up off a mk5b comimg up mate, FWD too
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The garage in the pics above is mint. I hope when me and the mrs come to buy a new house I hope I can get a garage that size.
cheers mate, the previous owner must have liked to tinker with cars too as theres a huge rsj in the roof with 4 holes in the middle which suggests to me block and tackle
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been cracking on with the strip down of the silver mk5a, despite having the donor AND rusty the red to do, i couldnt resist and kept finding my way back to the man cave lol. thought id best start with the negatives, some rusty bits ive found

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thats about it for rust so far, im yet to get underneath but i know the sills are shot already, chassis looked fine from what i saw when she was up on the transporter so fingers crossed!

heres how shes left for now

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my lad giving me a hand on the donor car lol

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Old 08-06-2014, 07:38 AM
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How many cars! lol Your gonna be running out of mates driveways! look forward to seeing more.
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i know i cant help myself! the vans the last im buying now, and will most likely sit in a garage for a couple of years
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Nice progress on the RS.

The van looks cool.
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Stu you can come and finish stripping mine. Ive lost interest in it since last week
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thats a shame chris, its soul destroying finding rot when you have certain plans and dreams for a motor

have you found more since your post on facebook?
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Originally Posted by STU20004X4
thats a shame chris, its soul destroying finding rot when you have certain plans and dreams for a motor

have you found more since your post on facebook?
ive not looked tbh Stu. After i kept banging my head on the boot latch it sort of decided its fate
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Good old Escorts mine went from trackday fun to the scrap yard in the sky
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Then all the parts went into a rust free 1.3 MK5b shell
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thats what you need to do chris, finding a decent shell is like winning the lotto though! i thought that gti shell was good until i stripped it and put my finger through the floor!
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on friday i noticed there where two different types of locking wheel nut on the wheels, but no key socket supplied with the car! teied the old bang a socket over it etc and they must have been torqued on. bent my spare socket extension like a banana, so i ordered a removal kit off ebay.

kit turned up today and managed to get the front wheels off before one of the nuts got proper wedged in the socket lol, dunno how im gonna get it out! anyway i got front suspension off today, driveshafts out and did a bit more of the loom, anothe couple of hours on the loom and then its engine gearbox removal time!
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anybody know what the wheels are worth? 4x 17in kahn rs-s i believe
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who's ready for some more rust!?!?

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both sills are in a similar state. someones done a bang tidy repair job on this exhaust though!

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another tidy repair i uncovered

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not sure wether to restore this steering wheel or not

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sure i will find more once its up on a spit! gonna tackle the suspension, and front and rear subframes next before taking the engine and gearbox out. making good progress though.
rusty the red is also now ready to come home, torn between getting rusty home or bringing the escort van home lol, heres some more pics









heres the fun part lol, bit of surface rust, but check out the exhaust. quality installation!









and a quick one of the mk6 4x4

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nice cruise down to sheerness, flat out over the bridge was fun lol

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I want one of them 'fit at home' exhausts kits. Awesome
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The RS200 is in a bit of a state.

Lol at the exhaust bodge.
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Van looks wicked pal, that exhaust mod is usual crappy mod you'll find on a van conversion lol did you see all the pikey mod's on my van when I got it?
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cheers kev, going to be going through your project threads when the time comes. not sure what to do with it yet, ive got a full stainless gti exhaust i might put on it, but then ive got all of the 4x4 running gear off rusty, tempted to go 4x4 or rwd lol
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Originally Posted by STU20004X4
anybody know what the wheels are worth? 4x 17in kahn rs-s i believe

I wanted some of these wheels you sod

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looking good fella always nice to see a old car of mine standing the test of time
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the kahns steve? pm me an offer mate found tgose mirrors and door handles you wanted aswell
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the kahns steve? pm me an offer mate found tgose mirrors and door handles you wanted aswell
yes stu the kahns,only seen the edge of one wheel lol so cant make offer on them can I , as for the other bits the gearlever surround is the most important bit for me, pm me what you want dear boy
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got them all off now so il take a pic when i get home, they need a refurb as paint is peeling in places but no dents etc
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Not much of an update as ive not done a great deal over the last month or so. Busy woth holidays, kids and ford fair. Took another pic of the exhaust and the mystery repair job on the mid section, got the rear suspension and sub frame off in one lump ready for the big strip down and clean up. Will upload pics tonight.

Also now got rusty on my driveway with a car cover over it, and the escort van parked across the road! Considering its been hardly driven thos year, its bloody quick! Will be takimg it for an mot soon, im prepared to hear the worst after discovering the exhaust lol, also i cant locate the fuel filter anywhere which tells me there isnt one! It still has the diesel tank!

My plans keep changing, i want to get the mk5b stripped fully and up onto a rolling jig, then i can strip the rest of rusty. Im going to chop most of it to bits to use as practice panels for welding and spraying so there wont be a great deal to scrap. Im also tempted to cut out the suspension mounts and fittong them in the van, but thats another project a lomg way away from happening!
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