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Old 28-01-2013, 12:36 PM
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hi folks, iam currently forced into driving a 1.1 fiesta due to not being able to find anyone in my area who is willing to restore my 4x4, its had an accident in past and was garaged for years till it was repaired (nothing major just side swipe to rear quarter) it was logged on the log book repaired and put back on road it was then purchased off ebay by my father he had new clutch fitted by mr clutch who didnt know what they were doing that lasted couple of months before going back for another as it collapsed (shit bits) they fitted another then four weeks later it started to play up again! i bought off of father and had another fitted and guess what! yep again started to play up has trouble engaging gears when warm got pissed off and parked it up two years have passed and thought i should do something with it, body wise its ok scab on roof top of winscreen usual spot, rear arch slight scab and the rear chasis where the cradle mounts is rough on drivers side its only done 46,000 since new its in ash black (rare now apparently) and engine is purrrfic.
is it worth sticking 3000 into it to get body repaired and resprayed and moted ? but most of all has anyone had the same problem with the clutch situation could it be as simple as the wrong oil in the box? i have plenty of bits t.box g.boxes only thing i aint got is a spare engine. was going to do a 2.3 conversion but there is no real gain as they are a lower bhp the rs is the only one as far as iam aware thats 150bhp all oter variants are lower. possibly may bolt in an st170 lump and keep the original to go back in in the future. PLEASE HELP DONT WANT TO SCRAP!
Old 28-01-2013, 12:40 PM
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For starters, a 4x4 what? Sierra? Escos, Mondeo? Jesus that was hard to read lol
Old 28-01-2013, 12:43 PM
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its a 1996 rs2000 4x4, lol yeah i get carried away, love my fords!
Old 28-01-2013, 12:44 PM
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Why wont anyone restore it ?

do they not like money or something> lol
Old 28-01-2013, 12:48 PM
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sold my 4x4 last year after a mild restoration and top money for these is around £4-£5k unwelded, but in decent condition £1500 to £3.5k depending on spec such as A/C sunroof and dual airbags etc,
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nope all old country boys round here too new they say electrics scare them off, i got a quote for 500 just to weld a patch or new section if i supplied to the chasis for the rear cradle aint rotted through just a scab,
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also pictures will help
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only thing it aint got is aircon thats what windows are for! lol
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profile pic is of the car, will get the camera out and get some photos asap too good for scrap but its recorded on lg book the damage and between me and my father we have pushed the keepers up now but do have all history to show its only been with us for the last four keeper changes was done mainly to satisfy insurance company when we move it about storage wise theydont like the owner not being the one to insure.
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Originally Posted by rs2kbaby
only thing it aint got is aircon thats what windows are for! lol
there are many levels of spec for the 4x4s from the options list

top spec has

A/C & electric Sunroof
ford remote locking alarm
premuim audio including special rear shelf speakers
dual airbags
heated front/rear screens
opening rear quarter windows

ones in need of tlc can sell for as little as £500

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all extras bar the air con i paid 2500 for it when i got it and it did look mint but the idiots tht done the last spray job put on such a thick layer of laquer that when i got a stonechip it looked like someone had shot my car another reason for a full respray
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when its been recorded as damaged it does knock a large chunk off the value straight away, and sticking £3k worth of work into it would be a huge gamble and one I would not take persobnally, get some pics of it up
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An RS2000 with load of owners and a history of accident damage is never going to make £3K. So I'd only spend that if you really love the car and want to keep it - don't do it and expect to turn a profit.
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^ just as I was pointing out Dan
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My opinion... the car will never be worth what your thinking of putting into it. So if you like to lose money and the car will be staying for a good amount of time, go for it.

But, with it being registered, by the sounds of it, a good amount of rust, paintwork needed and something dodgy going on with the clutch etc would be too much for myself (How hard was it hit? could it be twisted and causing the clutch to not mount correctly or twist when being driven? 4 clutches in such small amount of miles is ringing alarm bells sadly.

In the long run, it would be better to sell that one for bits etc and buy a good one. Would cost you less in the long run.
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not doing for profit but pleasure! had many mk2s and capris scrapped bout 10 mk2 escorts and 4 capris biggest mistake an rs1800 and a mexico 1.3 plus a 2.0 capri with full xpack and powder coated weller wheels sold for scrap in 99 for 50 quid the lot i lye awake at night still crying lol
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that sounds like it still hurts lol.
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doing to keep wasnt a hard hit just a glance was runnin perfect until mr clutch got there hands on it and hasnt been same since thts why i was thinking wrong g.box oil, twice was poor patent parts i think as it was the fingers that went or the little springs came out of the plate cant remember it hasnt been given any stick and was well looked after just two years of sitting outside (mostly undercover) has caused the surface rot but as i said got loads of bits new panels wings all the stuff and more but its finding a garage to do the work as recently moved and have no workshop
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very much so now i see the prices they fetch father sold his mk2 rs2000 custom 1979 jah760v for 2000 in 99 and it was mint! hes cring still also, lol he wants it back but has vanished into storage somewhere dvla shows hasnt been taxed since 2000,
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just added some pics of current state in my album will load more once the rain has gone
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Same colour as my escos, is a nice colour. Sadly the prices of these cars are against them. Can you not store it for a long period under cover so it will not be out in the rain etc? Maybe look at it in 5 years time and see what the values are like then?
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value is in the eye of the beholder, would love to store again but that would end up sitting there until theres just four tyres and some hoses, lmao due to history it will be back on road as a daily run round and i will buy another or buy another and cut mine up and convert the fezzie to a 4x4 2.0 i think that would be good for a laugh! saw the mk1 on ebay that had a scooby welded to the bottom bet that was fun!
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Get your money spent.
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got to find a garage first that can do the work or an enthusiast who wants to do it, only thing they respray round ere is tractors lmao
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i loved my 4x4, gutted when i had to sell it, but as said unless you can do the work yourself, you'll end up spending more than the cars worth!
not sure whats going on with the clutch, i used a lucas kit and fitted a 1.8td to a mates and both were fine. check that mr clutch are putting a full kit in not just the clutch plate.
also mate word of friendly advice, using punctuation makes reading your posts easier
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for £500 they replaced the lot and reground the fly wheel. Though i believe the r.s has an alloy f.w so iam wondering if they put in a steel one, could that be the cause of my problems? no offense my grammar is poor i know.
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I just scrapped my MK5 RS2000 track car and got another shell! To be honest you can't restore it as you can't get floors etc for em so you just have to try make plates etc with never look right
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aint that bad! solid underneath bar a lil inch square scab where the rear cradle bolts on floors mint! always undersealed and was done again before parking up.
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dont scrap it mate. if u really love the car just do it
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If you get anything else done re: the clutch, stay away from mr clutch like the plague, have heard nothing but horror stories about them from around the country regarding parts and service.
Could you not get the car running and road legal again so not spending as much money and see if you still have the love for it once your using it, also if you decide not to do anything with it may be able to sell it rather than scrap
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was mr clutch at norwich (avoid) iam going to fit new clutch myself so i know its done properly, then drop rear cradle to sort the scab, mot tax insure, run for a month if i cant find another the same i will then strip and get resprayed. money not an issue as comp comming soon, its more do i do this or go mk2 again and leave it in the garden. hmmm
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