Clio 172 track/race car
#121
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Cracking wee car this. All the 172's were killing most things on Saturday! It'll be even better with that head you were talking about the other day.
#122
I started stripping the Clio down this morning so I can send the jenvey manifold away with the phase 1 head to get ported and matched, I also got a 182 exhaust manifold and should be picking up some 120mm trumpets later this week.
I also picked up a spray tin of bright green plasidip to try as fancy doing the car green with grey renault sport graphics next year, not sure if I like the finish as its a Matt look so may have a rethink about a wrap or paint depending on £££.
I also picked up a spray tin of bright green plasidip to try as fancy doing the car green with grey renault sport graphics next year, not sure if I like the finish as its a Matt look so may have a rethink about a wrap or paint depending on £££.
#124
Seems fairly easy to use chip I think it would actually be easier with the proper sprayer as the nozzle on the can kept blocking.
I had over spray on the bonnet and door but it just rubs and peels off easily, my reason for doing a test was I had heard it can faid quickly so I will see what it's like after sitting outside for a few months.
I had over spray on the bonnet and door but it just rubs and peels off easily, my reason for doing a test was I had heard it can faid quickly so I will see what it's like after sitting outside for a few months.
#126
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Nice! what sort of difference will the 120mm trumpets give?
#128
Ben
That should give it some nice grunt mid gears, always handy!
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#134
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
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Looks like your having fun with this car!
If you don't mind me asking, what do/did you do job wise to be off to china etc. and have such a lovely variety of cars and looks like a big house lol
If you don't mind me asking, what do/did you do job wise to be off to china etc. and have such a lovely variety of cars and looks like a big house lol
#135
I work offshore as a mechanic/ hydraulic engineer, i actualy took a year out from the industry this year but start a new job next week so off to Norway then Korea.
After a mix up with the wosners pistons being the wrong bore they were sent back and I got a set of pec pistons which needed machined to the required comp ratio. I have went for 12.8:1 to keep things safe on available pump fuel, this week I also received my pure Motorsport shifter and a full set of black series bushes for the front end to be fitted with the roll center correction kit.
Hopefully next week will see some actual work on the car started.
After a mix up with the wosners pistons being the wrong bore they were sent back and I got a set of pec pistons which needed machined to the required comp ratio. I have went for 12.8:1 to keep things safe on available pump fuel, this week I also received my pure Motorsport shifter and a full set of black series bushes for the front end to be fitted with the roll center correction kit.
Hopefully next week will see some actual work on the car started.
Last edited by NEIL A; 29-11-2013 at 06:19 PM.
#141
I have had many hours discussion about those parts for the suspension with Mark, what material, what size thread etc, they do work well.
What bore size pistons ?
If being bored new oil jets will be needed.
Porkie has one of those gear lever kits looks a good bit of kit, he also had the full exhaust and manifold to go with the engine I have built him, despite what has been said before these engines do suffer with oil pressure and surge problems, Porkie's engine now has a modified oil pump, baffled sump, tagged bearings (ends and mains) steel rods, forged pistons, ported head, steel flywheel etc
He is also having a roll centre correction kit.
Steve
What bore size pistons ?
If being bored new oil jets will be needed.
Porkie has one of those gear lever kits looks a good bit of kit, he also had the full exhaust and manifold to go with the engine I have built him, despite what has been said before these engines do suffer with oil pressure and surge problems, Porkie's engine now has a modified oil pump, baffled sump, tagged bearings (ends and mains) steel rods, forged pistons, ported head, steel flywheel etc
He is also having a roll centre correction kit.
Steve
#142
Chip had mentioned bits about Lee's new build over on cliosport, sounds like a serious engine.
I have just went for standard bore, its a low mileage engine and touch wood bar an oil change hasn't used a drop of oil on the 5 trackdays i've done in the car.
Im not planning on reving to more than 7800 as with the ED cams power will be dropping after that I think. I haven't stripped the bottom end yet but will be checking for signs of oil starvation so plans may change.
I have just went for standard bore, its a low mileage engine and touch wood bar an oil change hasn't used a drop of oil on the 5 trackdays i've done in the car.
Im not planning on reving to more than 7800 as with the ED cams power will be dropping after that I think. I haven't stripped the bottom end yet but will be checking for signs of oil starvation so plans may change.
#143
Today's progress.
I got the head off and bottom end stripped, really happy with the condition of the shells and bores they are both like new. There are no lips or scores in the bores and you can still clearly see the original honing marks.
I got the head off and bottom end stripped, really happy with the condition of the shells and bores they are both like new. There are no lips or scores in the bores and you can still clearly see the original honing marks.
Last edited by NEIL A; 03-12-2013 at 08:42 PM.
#145
Got the bottom end almost built up but one set off rings were the wrong size so Dave at PEC is sending out another pack. I was shocked at how high the pistons sit and intrude into the head, but this is the first high comp engine I have had in bits as use to turbo cars.
I have changed out the anti roll bar bushes and removed the bottom arms ready for the polly bush sleeves, and to get the uni ball holders fitted once they arrive.
I have changed out the anti roll bar bushes and removed the bottom arms ready for the polly bush sleeves, and to get the uni ball holders fitted once they arrive.
Last edited by NEIL A; 06-12-2013 at 08:44 PM.
#146
Bit of a poor update as been away with work so not got much done, I did finish the bottom end this morning and hope to pick up the ported head on Monday.
I went through today and dropped off some uprated catcam springs and new valve stem seal, while there I got a few phone pics of the headwork so far.
Inlet port
Exhaust port
Valve throat
Gasket and bolts ready for rebuild
With any luck I hope to get the car running next week before I have to go back to Norway, then it will be going in for mapping at the start of Feb
I went through today and dropped off some uprated catcam springs and new valve stem seal, while there I got a few phone pics of the headwork so far.
Inlet port
Exhaust port
Valve throat
Gasket and bolts ready for rebuild
With any luck I hope to get the car running next week before I have to go back to Norway, then it will be going in for mapping at the start of Feb
#152
With working away I would miss half the rounds, depending on which engine he runs Paul Bell should do wall in his nova though.
I did look into doing the super laps Scotland series but they have made it so much more expensive , with the new rules as its now almost a blue book event. I think the original idea of it being a middle step between a track day and competition driving made It more appealing.
I did look into doing the super laps Scotland series but they have made it so much more expensive , with the new rules as its now almost a blue book event. I think the original idea of it being a middle step between a track day and competition driving made It more appealing.
Last edited by NEIL A; 22-12-2013 at 05:54 PM.
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With working away I would miss half the rounds, depending on which engine he runs Paul Bell should do wall in his nova though.
I did look into doing the super laps Scotland series but they have made it so much more expensive , with the new rules as its now almost a blue book event. I think the original idea of it being a middle step between a track day and competition driving made It more appealing.
I did look into doing the super laps Scotland series but they have made it so much more expensive , with the new rules as its now almost a blue book event. I think the original idea of it being a middle step between a track day and competition driving made It more appealing.
I was all set to join up for that, but the costs are crazy. £160 a round now I think, more when you consider fuel, tyres, brakes, the transponder thing etc
You can get a trackscotland day at knockhill for £100-£120. I'd only be doing it for shits'n'giggles anyhow. I'm not rich enough to do competition!
#154
Yip there was another two of my mates that were interested, I think it would be possible to do it in a near standard road car but as soon as you strip it out then they want fia in date seats , cage...
Even though the car has been checked over and they are happy for it to do trackday I would need to change a lot now to enter SLS so will stick to doing as many open pit track days as I can.
Even though the car has been checked over and they are happy for it to do trackday I would need to change a lot now to enter SLS so will stick to doing as many open pit track days as I can.
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Yip there was another two of my mates that were interested, I think it would be possible to do it. in a near standard road car but as soon as you strip it out then they want fia in date seats , cage...
Even though the car has been checks over and they are happy for it to do trackday I would need to change a lot now to enter SLS so will stick to doing as many open pit track days as I can.
Even though the car has been checks over and they are happy for it to do trackday I would need to change a lot now to enter SLS so will stick to doing as many open pit track days as I can.
Me too mate. Please let me know what days you will be doing, so I can stay home and wash my hair or something.... No way I'm getting my ass handed to me by a french shopping car on the track
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With working away I would miss half the rounds, depending on which engine he runs Paul Bell should do wall in his nova though.
I did look into doing the super laps Scotland series but they have made it so much more expensive , with the new rules as its now almost a blue book event. I think the original idea of it being a middle step between a track day and competition driving made It more appealing.
I did look into doing the super laps Scotland series but they have made it so much more expensive , with the new rules as its now almost a blue book event. I think the original idea of it being a middle step between a track day and competition driving made It more appealing.
#160
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Picked up the head and jenvey inlet at lunchtime and set about fitting the head, and getting it timed up. Due to the porting I have lost the o ring on the jenvey manifold as it had been opened up and matched to the head, luckily I had a new inlet gasket with the head kit I bought so opened it out slightly and fitted it.
I only managed to run the engine for a few minutes as I don't have a link pipe so straight from the manifold is LOUD, s**t myself when it backfired the first time I cranked it .
So now need to make up a linkpipe as I now have a 182 manifold fitted and set up the pure motorsport shifter then waiting on new hubs to arrive.
Picked up the head and jenvey inlet at lunchtime and set about fitting the head, and getting it timed up. Due to the porting I have lost the o ring on the jenvey manifold as it had been opened up and matched to the head, luckily I had a new inlet gasket with the head kit I bought so opened it out slightly and fitted it.
I only managed to run the engine for a few minutes as I don't have a link pipe so straight from the manifold is LOUD, s**t myself when it backfired the first time I cranked it .
So now need to make up a linkpipe as I now have a 182 manifold fitted and set up the pure motorsport shifter then waiting on new hubs to arrive.