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Default 2.1 Zetec turbo RWD engine build

After starting this engine build in uni 2 years ago for a project its now time to actualy man up and put it all together!
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this project started as a quick budget build with calibra pistons and decompression plate but has now snowballed into high spec (and expensive!) build

while at uni i got a little to excited at seeing all that loan money in my acount and phoned ian howell each time the loan went in which resulted with me buying these items....

CP pistons with eagle con rods 2.1
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i also had a set of cams off him and the doube valve spring conversion!!!

iv had the block machined and bottom end balanced by a local engineer who does all the machining/balancing on the BDA engines for the company i work for so definetly knows his stuff!!!

i have collected 90% of the bits required and am aiming to have the engine on the dyno next month
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Nice set of parts there, what's it going into?
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it's most probably going to be into a sierra for ease of fitiment unless i find a mk5 rwd converted escort or similar...but whatevers about when the engines ready as i want to take the car to ultimate street car at santa pod in august!

just uploading more pics of what i have to photobucket but its so slow!!! >
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in order to go rear wheel drive i have bought a retro ford 'motorsport' sump which i then made an oil return pipe on the lathe in work
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and then welded into/counter sunk into the sump


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because of the original block breather beinng such a big unit it has to be removed to allow room for the manifold so i made a blanking plate and fitted a -6 fitting into so it can go to the catch tank
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as far as assembly goes the ARP main bearing stud/nuts have been installed along with the crank so that i could measure the compression ratio this afternoon
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tomorrows job will be to finish cutting/shaping the 200sx manifold ready for welding to the flange
Old 09-01-2011, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dazzboyee1986
this project started as a quick budget build with calibra pistons and decompression plate but has now snowballed into high spec (and expensive!) build

while at uni i got a little to excited at seeing all that loan money in my acount and phoned ian howell each time the loan went in which resulted with me buying these items....

CP pistons with eagle con rods 2.1


Pectel T2 ECU pre mapped to 380bhp and one of ians looms


i also had a set of cams off him and the doube valve spring conversion!!!

iv had the block machined and bottom end balanced by a local engineer who does all the machining/balancing on the BDA engines for the company i work for so definetly knows his stuff!!!

i have collected 90% of the bits required and am aiming to have the engine on the dyno next month

thats one of my looms , as i build all of ians , hope you like lol and good luck with the project

cheers paul
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Graham at gs escorts has a rwd unfinished mk 5 escort with full cage etc, he mite do you a deal
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Originally Posted by mk1turboestate
Graham at gs escorts has a rwd unfinished mk 5 escort with full cage etc, he mite do you a deal
I'm going to be seeing Graham tomorrow, he mentioned that shell the other day.
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MMMMMM very nice.
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Originally Posted by zetaboostboy522bhp
thats one of my looms , as i build all of ians , hope you like lol and good luck with the project

cheers paul
yeah its a quality loom was really happy with it! only one question about it and thats what are the red connectors labled 'boost' suposed to be connected to?...bet its really simple and im missing it!!! lol
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
I'm going to be seeing Graham tomorrow, he mentioned that shell the other day.
any chance you could get a pic or 2? any idea what set up it has i.e sierra beam or mk2 escort?

bet it'll be out of my price range though!!! :'(
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Originally Posted by dazzboyee1986
yeah its a quality loom was really happy with it! only one question about it and thats what are the red connectors labled 'boost' suposed to be connected to?...bet its really simple and im missing it!!! lol

cheers mate , they are to run a amal valve so you can have 2 way boost switch ie low and high , or you can run a digital boost controller or air injectors basically what ever you want to control the boost with

hope that helps

cheers paul

pm me as i have a nearly new amal valve for sale if you aregoing torun one
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Originally Posted by dazzboyee1986
any chance you could get a pic or 2? any idea what set up it has i.e sierra beam or mk2 escort?

bet it'll be out of my price range though!!! :'(
Saw the car today; REALLY nicely done. Currently running a Pinto and will be finished as a driving car in the next month or so and will be put up for sale. 5 linked rear with an Atlas axle, massive cage, Sierra struts and crossmember.

The photographer I was with took loads of good pictures, I'll put them up when they get sent in to the office.
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Saw the car today; REALLY nicely done. Currently running a Pinto and will be finished as a driving car in the next month or so and will be put up for sale. 5 linked rear with an Atlas axle, massive cage, Sierra struts and crossmember.

The photographer I was with took loads of good pictures, I'll put them up when they get sent in to the office.
fantastic!!! cheers buddy!
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Saw the car today; REALLY nicely done. Currently running a Pinto and will be finished as a driving car in the next month or so and will be put up for sale. 5 linked rear with an Atlas axle, massive cage, Sierra struts and crossmember.

The photographer I was with took loads of good pictures, I'll put them up when they get sent in to the office.

were you with classic ford then? graham said they were goin up for a feature of the place
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made a fantastic purchase today and bought 'Liams' from this sites area 6 inlet manifold, been after one for ages so im well chuffed!! also dropped the 200sx exhaust manifold and zetec flange off with my buddy to weld on for me when he gets some free time in work.

dug some more bits out that i've been collecting for the project as well
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flywheel is a retro ford 'zetec to cosworth' weighing just over 4kg and the clutch is AP racing


measured my compression ratio to be 8.28:1 last weekend
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lookin good mate
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oh yeah i re-painted my rocker cover as the brush on engine lacquer had a shockingly shit finish let alone being a crap colour...and i decided im bored of blue rocker covers!

shitty blue
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Originally Posted by rstom95
lookin good mate
cheers, stay tuned as hopefully it'll go on the dyno next month if im lucky!!!
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Will follow this. Looks good
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Originally Posted by mk1turboestate
were you with classic ford then? graham said they were goin up for a feature of the place

Yep, I'm the staff writer for Classic Ford

Just finished the article actually, still not seen the pics yet as I've been away.
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right then its time for an update!!!

the bottom end is pretty much built up but not without a little bit of head scratching!!!
after getting the crank pistons and rods inn and all torqued up i thought id jus have to pop the oilpump and sump on and i'll be flying along...and then found i'd been given the wrong oil pump gasket so work stopped for a week while waiting for ford to sort out the right one...anyway right gasket came so put the pump on and then went to fit the retro ford sump kit and found that modification was required to the oil pick up pipe as i wasnt using the modified main end bolt supplied with the kit as i am using the ARP stud/nut conversion...the problem was as follows....
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due to this i decided that the simplest and best way to solve the problem was to cut the mounting bracket off and weld it back of closer to the oilpump where it could reach the neighbouring stud...
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Re-fitted
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and some random pics of the set up and 'finished' bottom end
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have bought liams area6 inlet manifold so will be using that now insted of a modifed rover one i was going to use. just waiting for my exhaust manifold to come back from being welded and then i can sort the ports out and get it all together!!!

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just a quick update, progress has been a little slow but have managed to get the head, inlet and water pump fitted but having difficulties getting the exhaust manifold welded

few pics sorry about quality they're off my phone, will take betterones this week when i time it all up

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Very nice Very much liking the cam cover colour scheme!

My project is a first for me so getting involved in engine rebuilds has been a crash course!
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looking nice mate
where did you get the crankshaft pulley from ? and how much weight does it save
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bought the pulley off ebay ages ago, think it weighs about 1.2lbs. was around Ł30 i paid for it i think.

progress is going slow due to having to buy a new car to get to work but wont be long till the engines finished and put on the dyno but thinking i might end up selling it after all this work and expense!!! :'(
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Angry which cambelt kit?!

right then people what cambelt kit do i use?!!!!

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Is it a Silvertop head then?

I fitted a Blacktop head on a Silvertop but not seen it done vice-versa. Just get a tensioner kit for both engines are try and mix and match the two; it's what I did originally.

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head and block is blacktop, water pump is 1.8 silvertop
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Inlet looks nice

Surely youve got to use the black top cam belt kit on a black top engine? Engines coming together though...
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Originally Posted by dazzboyee1986
head and block is blacktop, water pump is 1.8 silvertop

That's not a Silvertop waterpump mate, that's all Blacktop stuff so just use a Blacktop cam belt kit.

Thought it looked like a Blacktop head so wondered why you asked!
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i took the waterpump off a silvertop myself as i was told i needed one :-/

iv got a cambelt kit which has 2 idler pullys and a tensioner, theres ony one mounting place on my current set up for a idler and in the cambelt kit i have there is a bolt/anchor for the tensioner spring but no threadded hole to put it in!...did buy the kit a long time ago so mabe its wrong....
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You can't possibly fit a Silvertop water pump to a Blacktop; they are totally different. You have removed that from a Blacktop engine mate

It sounds like you might have a Silvertop cambelt kit though?
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
You can't possibly fit a Silvertop water pump to a Blacktop; they are totally different. You have removed that from a Blacktop engine mate

It sounds like you might have a Silvertop cambelt kit though?
sorry buddy you are right!!! was loosing the plot the other night! turns out the engine i took the pump off was a black top but was usinng a silvertop rocker cover just like i am...how embarassing! ha ha!!! anyway the right kit (blacktop) is on the way now and my exhaust manifold is getting welded! now to order some more goodies so i can dyno it at last!!!

big thanks to zetaboostboy522bhp for his spot on help!
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Flicked though mate but what is it going into?
Engine is looking good though mate!
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interesting..
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i like this
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Originally Posted by 7sean7m7
Flicked though mate but what is it going into?
Engine is looking good though mate!
will be a sierra for now, in a rush to race at santa pod at start of august! :S
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cambelt sorted and all timed up!

finally have an exhaust manifold sorted so fitted that and the turbo, few pics but crappy quality as i keep forgetting to take my camera to work!!

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now got to mess around and find an actuator and bracket :-/
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nice build and glad you got the timing belt issue sorted , isnt that turbo externally gated ? , if so external wastegate mate and not a actuator and exhaust manifold modded to fit the external wastegate

keep up the good work

cheers paul

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