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Old 28-07-2016, 01:06 PM
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Got the rest of the wheels on today.





Don't know why but I'm not feeling it? I think they look smaller than my RS7's? Think they may be up for sale shortly....
Old 28-07-2016, 02:29 PM
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think that looks mint.
wont be for sale long if you do sell, theyre a wheel in high demand!
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They look excellent !!! The only S1 id like to own ......




Ask someone the photoshop them black with a blue fleck in to match the stickers down the side
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Old 28-07-2016, 03:05 PM
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I preferred the other wheels but still looks good
Old 28-07-2016, 04:58 PM
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I think they suit it...
Looks perfect
Old 28-07-2016, 07:41 PM
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That looks epic!
Old 29-07-2016, 10:19 AM
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Just read through some of this thread, what an awesome car, I love the S1.

Thanks. Lee.

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Old 29-07-2016, 08:38 PM
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I think it looks really well matey.
Old 30-07-2016, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by london_chris
think that looks mint.
wont be for sale long if you do sell, theyre a wheel in high demand!
The only problem I have is I need to have them straightened, they all have a wee wobble in them, only found out when I put the tyres on. So much for the powder coasters! Waste of time they were, will need to straighten them then have them coated again!

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They look excellent !!! The only S1 id like to own ......




Ask someone the photoshop them black with a blue fleck in to match the stickers down the side
Would keep them the same colour mate, they are starting to grow on me again.

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I think they suit it...
Looks perfect
Think it was just taking me a while to get used to them

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Just read through some of thsi thread, what an awesome car, I love the S1.

Thanks. Lee.
Thanks mate

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I think it looks really well matey.
Starting to like them mate, must have just got used to the old wheels....
Old 30-07-2016, 01:06 PM
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Honestly i think they really suit the car.
Old 05-10-2016, 07:50 PM
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Well I thought I would dig out my old wheels that were originally on the car. Literally had to dig them out of a bush, they had been in there for the past 4 - 5 yrs!!

My little girl gave them a clean

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As I said, they'd been in there a while! Had stuff growing on them...

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Now I had to check the wheels went over the cossie brakes, even with a flat tyre which didn't help.

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Fill the arches quite well

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Rears were ok but the fronts don't fit.

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Calipers touch the back of the wheel on the fronts..

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Now it looks like I may need to cut out about 10mm from the back bit I'm a wee but worried that I could lose strength in the wheel...

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Just put a 10mm wheel spacer on job done .
Old 06-10-2016, 08:08 AM
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Was thinking about it but didn't want the front wheels to stick out too far you know?
Old 01-11-2016, 02:59 PM
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Not sure if it's too late, but I think your clearance problems could be resolved if you use a Mondeo Mk1 V6 278mm disc with existing Escort Cosworth calipers. More offset. But you will also need to use XR4x4 uprights. I've done some similar stuff. Should work. The only question mark is on driveshaft length. This is all assuming you are using standard Escort Cosworth brakes. Best of luck. Better than machining the wheels....

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Old 01-11-2016, 03:57 PM
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I dont think I would want to remove more than 1 or 2mm before I started to get worried

You might get away with 10mm on front and 5 mm on back to even it out...I bet the bodykit could be spaced a little too?

I would stick with the lovely bigger wheels though....personally
Old 01-11-2016, 09:30 PM
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Yeh defo stick with the bigger wheels cutch.
Old 02-11-2016, 09:21 AM
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RS7's for sale Cutch?
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Originally Posted by rwd_fiesta
Not sure if it's too late, but I think your clearance problems could be resolved if you use a Mondeo Mk1 V6 278mm disc with existing Escort Cosworth calipers. More offset. But you will also need to use XR4x4 uprights. I've done some similar stuff. Should work. The only question mark is on driveshaft length. This is all assuming you are using standard Escort Cosworth brakes. Best of luck. Better than machining the wheels....

Yes that sounds about right as the xr4x4 lugs for the caliper mounts are about 10/15 mm inboard of the cosworth hub carriers, I have several sets of both types here, I wasn't sure about the offset of the mondeo disc tho, the mondeo v6 mk 1 early mk2 have the same front caliper as the cosworth 4x4 only the mounting bracket is different bolts are bigger on the mondeo


would be very easy and cheap to try it tho!


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Old 04-12-2016, 05:41 AM
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Looks like I have just bought myself a new set of Rondells. So these ones are up for sale if anyone wants them, just fire over an offer.


I am going to give the spacers a try first on the std wheels, I don't want to cut anything off the caliper or wheels. I also have a different idea, I have 4x4 Granada hubs here, I might put them on with these

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Just don't know if the cossie brakes will clear the back of them? Should do as far as I know.

Thanks for the info boys if this doesn't work I might try that too.

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RS7's for sale Cutch?
No mate sorry. I'll never sell them, they look to good on the car and I can always fall back on them for it. I love them, just getting that itch to change something you know.

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Old 05-12-2016, 05:13 PM
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I like the idea of granada hubs matey.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:36 PM
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.

If you knock out 3 of the wheel studs the last one should line up so at least you could bolt one on for a look and fit check.

Are they 16's the Granny ones???


Ginger


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Old 15-12-2016, 10:17 AM
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You know job well done its one of my dreams to do a s1 cossie project what did it cost you roughly if you don't mind that is
Old 28-12-2016, 10:43 PM
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Old 29-12-2016, 06:54 PM
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Oww i like them. They will look really well on the S1 cossie.
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Originally Posted by cutch
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Great wheel choice btw !
I've got 9" fronts and 10" rears on my focus . Look forward to seeing them on the Escort .
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Nice - What size are they, diameter, width and offset? Just looking at getting a set..
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Sorry guys, the post with the comps was me testing my photobucket account working normally as it doesn't on the escort cosworth forum.

Those are my 18" x 9 and 10" comps that are going on my escort cosworth track car.

Et 0 on the 10's by the way! they wouldn't even fit in the arches!

I haven't had a chance over the xmas period to do the wheels on the S1. Can't decide whether to buy the S2 cossie shell on eBay and transfer it all over or not....
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Originally Posted by moondustka
Nice - What size are they, diameter, width and offset? Just looking at getting a set..
Super rare wheels now bud
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Originally Posted by cutch
Sorry guys, the post with the comps was me testing my photobucket account working normally as it doesn't on the escort cosworth forum.

Those are my 18" x 9 and 10" comps that are going on my escort cosworth track car.

Et 0 on the 10's by the way! they wouldn't even fit in the arches!

I haven't had a chance over the xmas period to do the wheels on the S1. Can't decide whether to buy the S2 cossie shell on eBay and transfer it all over or not....
Dont do that, S1 much much nicer
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
Dont do that, S1 much much nicer


I would be keeping the S1, I am going to take off all the straight cut box, 6 deg beam and supra rear end and put std stuff back on. I want to make it "nice" to drive again. Also going to redo the wiring loom with a custom one so I have a lot of the stuff already to build the S2 for a track toy.... I'm getting a smith and jones block / head for my Escos track car so I will have a spare engine too. Nearly got all the bits to built it then...
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Originally Posted by cutch
I would be keeping the S1, I am going to take off all the straight cut box, 6 deg beam and supra rear end and put std stuff back on. I want to make it "nice" to drive again. Also going to redo the wiring loom with a custom one so I have a lot of the stuff already to build the S2 for a track toy.... I'm getting a smith and jones block / head for my Escos track car so I will have a spare engine too. Nearly got all the bits to built it then...
What Capacity are you going for with the Smith and Jones engine? Is there a big benefit in getting the head?
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Haven't really ironed out the details yet but when I was talking to Pierro I told him a wanted 600bhp or over and he said he wouldn't do it unless we put liners in. To put liners in will be £2500 and I need another block to do it too as well. For that price I can just buy a smith and jones block! So the object is going to be build it once and Will Pedley and Pierro both said to get the head as well....I think it was the same principal as the block, by the time I pay for machining etc and find a decent head I might as well have bought a smith and jones head too...
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I think the head was around £4k inc VAT on top, I am hoping that my head can be ported to save the money. I don't doubt that the new head is better but it does add a lot to the bill.
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Just read through, car looks incredible!, credit to you and to all who have worked on it!!
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You may have a point there. I didn't realise the head was as much as that, knew it would be pricey but that's a bit mental. I'll talk to Will and Pierro again and figure it all out. We hadn't really gone through the details properly as I haven't even driven the car yet properly. Going to get used to it with 450bhp to get used to it.

Thanks Jez. Appreciate it
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I think the head was around £4k inc VAT on top, I am hoping that my head can be ported to save the money. I don't doubt that the new head is better but it does add a lot to the bill.
No problem to port your head to the correct spec.

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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I think the head was around £4k inc VAT on top, I am hoping that my head can be ported to save the money. I don't doubt that the new head is better but it does add a lot to the bill.
Ive just had to buy one, my big valve head cracked, by the time you source another head and then have it checked to see how much has been skimmed off it then have it worked its not too far off. The biggest upside its a brand new head never have skimming or clearance issues again.
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
No problem to port your head to the correct spec.

Mark
That is good to hear Mark, I am pretty sure mine has never been skimmed or if it has it was only once.
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Originally Posted by jessie_rs
Ive just had to buy one, my big valve head cracked, by the time you source another head and then have it checked to see how much has been skimmed off it then have it worked its not too far off. The biggest upside its a brand new head never have skimming or clearance issues again.

Totally agree, you could end up buying something completely rubbish
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That was my worry too. I have a tendency to buy the parts o need and find out there's problems with them. So does the S and J head come all ready flowed ported and correct sizes etc for the build? Or is it a std size and Pierro would have to do his work on it too? Therefore adding more costs?


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