The Dutch building of a Escort MK 3 track car (Inside painted and new brakes 9-2-12)

[Rs_Nick]

Originally Posted by Edwin van Asselt Hello Nick, Well maybe it was a shame but in the beginning I only bought the car for the parts on it. When I received the car at home I have been thinking of transform it to a track car. But when I took a good look at it I'm sorry to say it was very bad. Specially at the rear but also the front end and the place on the bottom in front of the seats was already very rusty. Together whit the fact that I like the MK 3 more I decided to take it apart. Sorry for that but I hope you understand Regards, Edwin Hi Edwin, No prob mate. From the seats i remember. At the front do you mean behind the bumper? You don't have bought the 16'' rs wheels? Good Luck with your project. I will folow it. Cheers

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[RSRoy]

lol everyone is telling you that it was a shame to take the 3i apart

It's not a shame at all. I've put a lot of money in the car but it was worth every penny. It would be useless to put another big amount of money in the car if you have a better chassis to put the engine in. And with selling some parts you can make good money aswell

The heart of the car will live on

[Edwin van Asselt]

That was watt I thought also.
I sold a lot of parts and kept the engine and some things I can use for the track car.
But didn’t want the people to get mad about it.

[Rs_Nick]

Some onther info for you edwin,

The engine did 60.000km's before its fitted on the rsi head. The head is complete new. This is done by remy. Also the make up from the engine. My brohter have pics of it.

When the car go to jp cars he don't have do a 1000km's with the new head gasket.

Cheers!

[Edwin van Asselt]

Well if he has the pictures of it, I like to have them so please post or email them to me.

[Edwin van Asselt]

Don't know what to do about the rear suspension
Does anybody here has some experience whit the rear parallel transverse and trailing arms??
I read some articles about it where the discussed about to keep on one side the normal polyurethane busses because else the car gets very nervous on bumpy tracks.
I don’t know if this will also happen on a circuit.
So if anybody drives whit it please let me know how you like or disliked them.

[RSRoy]

Originally Posted by Edwin van Asselt

Well if he has the pictures of it, I like to have them so please post or email them to me.

PM sent

[Edwin van Asselt]

Originally Posted by RSRoy

PM sent

Thanks

[Mr.Ford]

Nice new project Edwin...

I know from the past you've had some serious cars, so this also will be one serious car

Shame about the original dutch 3i IMO, I would put back an original engine back in the car, and then sell it...

[Gregor]

Hi Edwin,

Nice track car you're building there.
I'll be looking at your thread closely as my s2 zetec turbo needs some handling improvements.
good luck with the build.

[Edwin van Asselt]

Well the chassis wasn’t good enough to spend any more money or time on it.
So I don't think its a shame that a dismantled the car.


And because the ex owner also agreed on that I sleep wel

[Edwin van Asselt]

When you see some rust you always hope it will not be that bad.
But you know already that you have to cut and weld more than you like.
I started today again after some very busy weeks and

Tried to upload some pictures but somehow it is not working??
I copy the IMG file but see a red cross


Also made some progress on cleaning and painting the rear hup, and cleaned the rear calliper

[Rs_Nick]

here you go edwin

[Edwin van Asselt]

Thanks but watt did a wrong

[RSRoy]

Originally Posted by Edwin van Asselt

And because the ex owner also agreed on that I sleep wel

Originally Posted by Edwin van Asselt

Thanks but watt did a wrong

You have to copy the complete url from the image. In this case: http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/kaapstander/Escort%20MK%203%20Track%20car/DSCF3051.jpg

When you want to view the image on a board like this, put the IMG tags around the complete url. So you start with [IMG] then your url and after the url you end with [/IMG]

I hope its clear

[Edwin van Asselt]

Wel here are some pictures of the reparing


















Also cleand and painted the rear hub


And cleaned the rear caliber

[turbo-herman]

nice project there edwin
good to see another mk3 saved, and its a nice base to start with.
nice to see al lot of dcht guys over here.

keep it up. will keep an close eye to this one.

greetz herman

[RSRoy]

Nice Edwin

[Edwin van Asselt]

Made some progres on the (ex) battery place. A well know spot for rust.


I bought a new replecment piece and cut of the battery holder.





Than I wellded it in and grinded it flat ready for some primer.






Later I will will make ity ready for painting
Monday there will be comming a friend and I hope he will help me whit the car to get it ready for painting

[Red_bull]

I also looked for the trailing arms, but i'm waiting with them. I don't want to spend the money on that right now. Why was your S1 handeling so bad? was it on normal suspension etc?

I'm building a S2 trackcar at the moment

[Edwin van Asselt]

Originally Posted by Red_bull

I also looked for the trailing arms, but i'm waiting with them. I don't want to spend the money on that right now. Why was your S1 handeling so bad? was it on normal suspension etc?

I'm building a S2 trackcar at the moment

I looked for the trailing arms but and the parallel transverse arms and decided to go make them myself.
I will make them when the car is by the paints shop but already ordered the rose joints and some other parts for it.

The problem with the S 1 was that it had a enormous torque and when you hit the throttle you never knew if the car was going right or left. specially on the normal road whit al the rills in it. On the track you had less problems because the track is with less rills.
But even there is was an dangerous car. I build it by Wouter Bollen en even he was afraid of it. After the first test drive we looked at each other and said that nobody but us should drive this car.

We tried several kinds of suspension from full Koni adjustable until shortened Bilstein, but never solved the problem completely. And also on this car I made some adjustable trailing arms. I made them from the original and just made some left and right tread on it
From watt I read and know about the trailing arms and parallel transverse arms is that on rally cars the keep on one side the PU bushes.
But because I build the car just for the track I will make it all complete whit the rose joints. And this car will have full adjustable coilovers as shocks

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Edwin van Asselt

I looked for the trailing arms but and the parallel transverse arms and decided to go make them myself.
I will make them when the car is by the paints shop but already ordered the rose joints and some other parts for it.

The problem with the S 1 was that it had a enormous torque and when you hit the throttle you never knew if the car was going right or left. specially on the normal road whit al the rills in it. On the track you had less problems because the track is with less rills.
But even there is was an dangerous car. I build it by Wouter Bollen en even he was afraid of it. After the first test drive we looked at each other and said that nobody but us should drive this car.

We tried several kinds of suspension from full Koni adjustable until shortened Bilstein, but never solved the problem completely. And also on this car I made some adjustable trailing arms. I made them from the original and just made some left and right tread on it
From watt I read and know about the trailing arms and parallel transverse arms is that on rally cars the keep on one side the PU bushes.
But because I build the car just for the track I will make it all complete whit the rose joints. And this car will have full adjustable coilovers as shocks

What kind of torque did it have on what engine?

My s2 has about 400nm and i'm not having so much problems unlike you did.

[Edwin van Asselt]

Well I don’t know how much it was, but destroyed a gearbox very fast
And when you hit the gas in 3th gear the only thing you get on the road where two black stripes caused by wheel spin.
And I know that the problems I had also appeared by some S1 Group A rally cars

So nice for you that you don't have that problem, maybe its caused by that you have a different setup at the front in a S 2 than a S 1

[FordRSmania]

nice project keep the photo's coming I also started with my original white RS1600i this year. But the body you have was this a S1 or just an 1.6 cvh body? Because of the front struts have 2 bolts per each side

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Edwin van Asselt

Well I don’t know how much it was, but destroyed a gearbox very fast
And when you hit the gas in 3th gear the only thing you get on the road where two black stripes caused by wheel spin.
And I know that the problems I had also appeared by some S1 Group A rally cars

So nice for you that you don't have that problem, maybe its caused by that you have a different setup at the front in a S 2 than a S 1

Sounds like some serious power then..
Shame you don't know the power , was just wondering at what level such things start happening not to offend you or something.
And you're right it's not the same front setup.

Good luck with your current car

[Edwin van Asselt]

Originally Posted by FordRSmania

nice project keep the photo's coming I also started with my original white RS1600i this year. But the body you have was this a S1 or just an 1.6 cvh body? Because of the front struts have 2 bolts per each side

Hello,

Its just a body from a early escort 80 same as RS 1600 I
The later one's like the S 1 have different front struts.
I still looking for a registration of a XR 3 or RS 1600 I to match the chassis

[Edwin van Asselt]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Sounds like some serious power then..
Shame you don't know the power , was just wondering at what level such things start happening not to offend you or something.
And you're right it's not the same front setup.

Good luck with your current car

Hello Gregor,

You were not offending me at al .
Looked at you're project and I'm quit inpressed to see the building of the engine.
Try to go for some nice power without the turbo. But with 2.0 bottem end of the zetec and the original RS 1600 I head.
I dident build this one myself but going to start with this engine in the trackcar.
Later on I will see wat happens, and if I build a complete new one myself or maby change it in to a focus RS engine.

Wil see first things first so first the chassis.

[Edwin van Asselt]

Some small update.

I welded the fuel hole and the former place of the antenna.








Not quit satisfied with the result but has to do

[Twins]

[Edwin van Asselt]

Well no time for a long time to work on the car.
With 3 little kids there is not much time left for hobby's
But today was a day to clean the garage and do some work on the car.




I painted one of the rear callipers and rear hub and fixed it together so I could measure something to start building the rear trailing arms etc.



Also was trying to get somebody who could weld in the rear chassis end. Because you will see something of it when it is in but could end find.
So thought try it myself and its me how is saying it I’m quit pleased with the result.

[Glenn.]

Top progress,keep up the good work.

[marky_g]

grate progesss

[RSRoy]

Good job on the welding Edwin

[Edwin van Asselt]

Well had some help today





Started to make a new mouthing plate to fit a MK 4 gearbox mount, but also be abele to use the RS 1600 I sub frame







Not finised yet but the day is over

[GranaDavey]

Proper work on there, looking good !

[rsdene]

looks great, look forward to some updates

Dene

[Edwin van Asselt]

Alrighttoday I had some time to work on the car, it is sent going so fast as I hoped but a family is also a lot of work.
Wel I made the last week the new rear setup and some new top mounts.
Today I test fitted it al and welded in the new rear top mounts.
When the cage is out I will weld everything total













So back on it wheels at turn arround in the garage so I can finish the front setup.

[RSRoy]

Making good progress Edwin

[wess-rs]

Good work Edwin, keep the updates coming!

[ROBnoTOP]

Keep going, mate....

It will be a nice car when it's all finished...
Yes, projects and a family most definitely don't go easy together.
The car not have to be done overnight, take your time to do it right...
I will keep an eye on this thread....

Will you visit EFE, then I will say..