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Old 11-12-2009, 11:22 PM
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Heres how it was a couple of months ago.



Manifold I finished earlier this week.






Not a lot left to do now,







Old 11-12-2009, 11:27 PM
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thats gonna be an animal!
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fuck me thats mad manifold looks mint
Old 11-12-2009, 11:35 PM
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i like that wot have you done about lowering the compression
Old 12-12-2009, 12:00 AM
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never have i seen a turbo soo easy to plum into cooler, bet that took some working out lol, cool project
Old 12-12-2009, 12:42 AM
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hop the engine dont rock to much lol
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Looks good, guessing it's just for strate line / strips? as turbo seems in prime spot for shit to go in it.
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Originally Posted by stembo21
i like that wot have you done about lowering the compression
Nothing as of yet, I'll run about 17psi on the standard engine, this should give me 400bhp. I'm waiting for the parts to come from the states to build my other engine. But the stock 1 will be plenty for the winter.

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never have i seen a turbo soo easy to plum into cooler, bet that took some working out lol, cool project
That was the idea, the exhaust is just as simple, 1 90 degree bend and a silencer.


Originally Posted by clarke5700
hop the engine dont rock to much lol
Haha, ye the mounts are nearly solid.

Originally Posted by Minirotty
Looks good, guessing it's just for strate line / strips? as turbo seems in prime spot for shit to go in it.
It will be road legal, obviously aimed at strips etc, A filter will be fitted for road/track use though. I had the last turbo there and it was ok, even when caught in the rain. Free water injection
Old 12-12-2009, 05:49 PM
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y have u got 2 wastegats ? surly that will play up with the exhaust flow ?
Old 12-12-2009, 06:10 PM
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how much has it cost you to do? think am getting a civic lol what management you useing
Old 12-12-2009, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmike
y have u got 2 wastegats ? surly that will play up with the exhaust flow ?

i expect he is using a twin scroll turbo so needs to vent both sides
Old 12-12-2009, 08:33 PM
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but in a 4 in to 1 style manifold if u fit the wastegate at the collector surley that will be ok?
Old 12-12-2009, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmike
but in a 4 in to 1 style manifold if u fit the wastegate at the collector surley that will be ok?
It's not a 4 to 1, its a twin scroll.
Old 12-12-2009, 08:56 PM
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neva hurd of one of them befor
Old 12-12-2009, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmike
neva hurd of one of them befor
they have 2 different size exhuast wheels in the same turbo
Old 13-12-2009, 07:25 PM
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As above it's twin scroll so needs 2 gates.

Tried to map it today but it's faar too wet, spins 5th.
Old 27-12-2009, 08:38 PM
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Any updates?
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Originally Posted by timrud
Any updates?
Not really, weathers been shocking (as you know).

I've never actually managed to get it grip for a full gear. I've got some 225 wide R888s i'm sure in the dry it will put the power down ok with them on.

Running 1.3 bar of boost its very quick. I'd predict high 400's. (still can't believe how well it spools)

I've ordered, sleeves, pistons, rods etc from the states, so will be 4-5 weeks till any more major updates.

Also ordered lots of T45 so we can add some safety but more importantly loose some more weight
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Couple more pic's here.

Temp filter while the new 1 comes.



Old 27-12-2009, 09:04 PM
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I dont know if you thought about supporting the turbo wait! as if you got very stiff ride suspension any lumps or bumps will effect the engine to move about? ''not much but hash bumps will move the motor! so with the turbo unit so fare out you need to put on some sort of damper on it, other wise you start pulling the studs from your cyl-head!
you mite think this will not happen, beleave me it DUZZ...
Old 27-12-2009, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by melspec1
I dont know if you thought about supporting the turbo wait! as if you got very stiff ride suspension any lumps or bumps will effect the engine to move about? ''not much but hash bumps will move the motor! so with the turbo unit so fare out you need to put on some sort of damper on it, other wise you start pulling the studs from your cyl-head!
you mite think this will not happen, beleave me it DUZZ...
The engine mounts are pretty solid, the cooler is mounted solid to the body, and the exhaust is mounted to an engine mount.

Theres not a lot of flex, and the thermal expansion of the manifold plays havoc with braces. I did look at some kind of rose joint affair and still haven't ruled it out completely.

We ran the original setup very similar to this (but smaller turbo) for some time and never had a problem.

Thanks for you concern though
Old 27-12-2009, 09:24 PM
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Looks awesome mate, very well thought out!! Is it still a 1.6 then?? What's the engine spec if you don't mind me asking?
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Originally Posted by rstdave
Looks awesome mate, very well thought out!! Is it still a 1.6 then?? What's the engine spec if you don't mind me asking?
Dave
1.8 now, 100% stock engine done 100k miles in another car.

Building a nice engine for the 2010 season.
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what management are you using?
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i cant beleve this is runing still, me and my mate turbod his b16a2 jordan with out low comp pistons running 6-7spi and its blew the hg,

so that a b18 bottom end now ?
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I work for honda and if i had a pound for everytime we had someone come in to show us there turbo'd or supercharged civic and then come back in two weeks to show us how many pieces the engine blew into i would be a very rich man.
Hope yours goes well though mate, looks a crisp project. Good luck
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Originally Posted by darrenb16two
I work for honda and if i had a pound for everytime we had someone come in to show us there turbo'd or supercharged civic and then come back in two weeks to show us how many pieces the engine blew into i would be a very rich man.
Hope yours goes well though mate, looks a crisp project. Good luck
We turbo'd over 20 last year without a single failure.

I think 1 or 2 are members on here.

Sounds like there not getting them tuned correctly. (send them my way in future and they'll last a LOT longer)

We've got 4 cars running over 400bhp on bone stock engines. The other 15 or so are running 300 and another couple over 350.
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Originally Posted by B1G_RST
i cant beleve this is runing still, me and my mate turbod his b16a2 jordan with out low comp pistons running 6-7spi and its blew the hg,

so that a b18 bottom end now ?
Sounds like you had some DET also, what managment did you use? You was probably lucky the head gasket went, I'm guessing it wasn't genuine or you reused old bolts and it lifted the head.

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what management are you using?
Hondata on this car, I sometimes use chrome if the customer wants to do it cheaper though.
Old 29-12-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Sounds like you had some DET also, what managment did you use? You was probably lucky the head gasket went, I'm guessing it wasn't genuine or you reused old bolts and it lifted the head.



Hondata on this car, I sometimes use chrome if the customer wants to do it cheaper though.

so how much do you do the convestion for wot car do i need sounds good power
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thats abit crazy why have the turbo there tho?
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Originally Posted by stembo21
so how much do you do the convestion for wot car do i need sounds good power
Any B or D series Honda really, ideally a B16, B18, or D16Z6. The B18, found in the EK VTi-s civic's and aerodecks take best to turbo'ing IMO.
A typical conversion for a drive in drive out build is Ł2500-3000, 300-350hp depending on spec and turbo etc. If you take care 400+ has proven to be fine. But we only pushed regular customers cars this far.

Originally Posted by marky_g
thats abit crazy why have the turbo there tho?
A few reasons, shortest boost pipes possible. Shortest exhaust, equal length twin screamer pipes, best cold air feed possible and because we make "normal" car's day in day out, so its nice to do something a little bit different.

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any videos of it on the go
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Originally Posted by stembo21
any videos of it on the go
I haven't got any recent vid's (got a google phone that doesn't take them)

Heres a vid of an intergra we did, this was running 14psi and did a 12.2 on the day although this run was a 12.7 I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQlZ4JxwesQ

1 from years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DALWKTltrmw


I'll get some vids, i've just stripped it again to make some new parts new subframe, and a cage, (when it wheelspins in 5th at 100mph+ I think you need 1 )
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ever thought about using the k series motor?
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i like the civic and thats just 1.6?
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thats awesome mate - fair play to ya!
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Originally Posted by nigel b
ever thought about using the k series motor?
Yes, Its not really worth the hassle, the engines are a bit tall, mounts and driveshafts don't aline 100% soon as you go big power if the shafts aren't perfectly straight your always going to have problems.

The k20 heads are better, but the B series heads flow plenty anyway.

Originally Posted by stembo21
i like the civic and thats just 1.6?
Its not a 1.8, it was a 1.6 before.

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thats awesome mate - fair play to ya!
Thanks,
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awsome bet it sounds mad on full boost
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How about the H series engine, extra capacity?
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Originally Posted by lead_foot
How about the H series engine, extra capacity?
Gearboxes are better on the B series, the engines lighter, fits straight in, which is a big bonus as shaft angles on the H are never optimum. Things like this are important when you want more power.

The H series make less power per litre, while been slightly bigger capacity they don't really make any more power, just torque a wider lower powerband, which isn't really need on a fwd.


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