Restoring My Sapphy 'Project Moneypit' *update 15/01/2011-winter tinkering*

Bloomers · 11-10-2009, 08:52 PM

Well, some of you may know my car....

since i rebuilt the engine last year, she has been given a considerable amount of abuse, seeing as i bought her to use, not hide in the garage.

however, i lapse in concentration resulted in me clipping a stone wall in july...

Results of that are a scratched bumper, written off wing, 2 doors and scarred up rear quarter

no chance of insurance, as the age, value and difficulty in sourceing genuine spares from dealers would have written her off. so the time has come, i am going to be doing a full body strip down, see what nastys the plastics are hiding and getting it all fixed up and ready for a good few more years on the road

i also feel its a good time to sort out a load of niggly faults that she has had for a while

the massive intercooler blocking the cooling air to the rad
the transmission vibration above 110mph, from either the prop or front shafts
the constant battle with the misfire goblins
My clutch slipping above 21psi

hopefully , i plan to have her back driving by June, REady for the Moors Tour, but if it takes longer so be it

first job was getting her into the garage, which i finally cleared out and got carpetted with some free stuff my mum was ditching

i'll try and keep it updated as i progress

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cornishben · 11-10-2009, 09:01 PM

Very exciting, will be watching this thread closely.

bad boy rs · 11-10-2009, 09:09 PM

m4tt274 · 11-10-2009, 09:09 PM

can u explain what this 'transmission vibration over 110mph' is. Myn begins to vibrate at around 115mph. and i was thinking about stripping it down and inspecting. but if this is a common problem, it would save me alot of time if anyone knows what causes it.

also shame about the scuff m8. looks like a really nice saff. and good man for using it

also nice bike

always fancied a DMR but could never afford

Barry R · 11-10-2009, 09:10 PM

fair shout i will be watching this 1

Simmo · 11-10-2009, 09:39 PM

What a shame about the damage... but well done for taking the opportunity to go to town on it. Will be keeping an eye on this!

KSA-Cossie · 11-10-2009, 10:35 PM

Pity about the damage,wasted spark will sort out any missfires.

fezzajsy · 11-10-2009, 10:39 PM

good luck with it mate

mike77cos · 11-10-2009, 10:55 PM

Good luck Dave

Bloomers · 12-10-2009, 11:29 PM

Thanks peeps

M4tt247 - basically, i shakes its tits off once your in 3 figure speeds, i've got a new prop donut ready to fit, was going to refurb and balance both props and get my shafts checked. i would of thought it was wheel balance, but it does it regardless of wheel choice

Had all my seats and carpet out this evening, only to find one of my seat mounts has succumbed to the down stuff, pretty much. oh well, suppose i better get used to find that lol

andycos · 13-10-2009, 06:20 PM

Good luck with the resto.
Think i may have seen it down Bude maybe parked near to the newsagents not far from the falcon hotel pic ?
If you see a white Sapph parked next to the Brendan arms soon,that will probably be mine !
Cheers Andy..

Bloomers · 13-10-2009, 08:01 PM

Will keep an eye out, bud

m4tt274 · 15-10-2009, 05:44 PM

thats pal. thats similar to what myn has started doing, it dosent shake its ass off that much its just a fine vibration. think its probably the prop.

Bloomers · 18-10-2009, 11:30 PM

little update. spent a few hours on her over the weekend, and i'm now at the stage of having the engine and box out the way with the removal of 8 bolts and the use of a couple jacks

interior has been all stripped out......

however, that has led to the first bits of rust showing thier ugly heads lol
drivers seat mount

drivers side rear footwell

also found over £3 in change

that will help pay for all this

old 10p

not a lot to a sierra with no bumper!

the powerhouse

another breakdown in the waiting :S sure there was a clip on there!!

hopefully have the running gear and rear beam off this week, then the fun begin

Anyone give me advice on the correct way of tackling the underside. i'm not after a concours look, but it would be nice to have it looking nice

andy130 · 19-10-2009, 12:38 AM

stirp all under seal off mate, put 3m sealer on then mate

mike77cos · 19-10-2009, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloomers

Anyone give me advice on the correct way of tackling the underside. i'm not after a concours look, but it would be nice to have it looking nice

I'm about to drop all the running gear off of mine and clean up underneath, I've been told satin shark grey paint, as its not porous (spell) like primer, then overspray magenta around the edges,

And break pipes use landrover forest green, to make them look like new

Bloomers · 19-10-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy130

stirp all under seal off mate, put 3m sealer on then mate

something like this, bud?
http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/3m-u...4-p-15900.aspx

mike, you not making up new brake pipes?

liammcl · 19-10-2009, 04:19 PM

http://passionford.com/forum/3370620-post3.html This is the stuff mate.

mike77cos · 19-10-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloomers

something like this, bud?
http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/3m-u...4-p-15900.aspx

mike, you not making up new brake pipes?

Yes I will be, but the paint will protect them even more

Brian · 19-10-2009, 05:13 PM

Good luck with it mate

Brian

Bloomers · 19-10-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liammcl

http://passionford.com/forum/3370620-post3.html This is the stuff mate.

wicked. how do you spray it on though? shultz gun?

AJC · 19-10-2009, 07:27 PM

good work pal

Tev · 19-10-2009, 07:45 PM

best of luck fella ive just finished a resto on my moonstone saph, keep the updates coming, your floor looks in good condition with small amoutns of rust

i found loads of random stuff when taking the carpet up

coswurv · 19-10-2009, 07:56 PM

Ive found this stuff on the net, i reckon it could be good for doing car undersides with as its made to be very tough for truck bed use, so should be a good product ??

http://www.u-pol.com/countries/en/navigate.htm its under products on the left handside then specialists coatings, raptor liner black.

Bloomers · 20-10-2009, 07:04 PM

Thanks peeps, for the posistive comments

Coswurv - That stuff looks perfect! The tintable version could be made moonstone too!

Bloomers · 22-10-2009, 07:52 PM

Little update

went to Essex with my mate to pick up his new 200sx yesterday so didn't get anything done. decided to work like a demon today

Engine box and subframe are now dropped on the deck, ready to be pulled out the way and stored at work, once i can get the shell 4 inches higher. Prop and exhaust are off, fuel tank, rear bumper and pump are off. and i have found more rust

i knew it was getting a little brown on the sil, but its one of those things you put to the back of your mind lol

no matter, though. new sill on the way, once the rear beam is off, it's time to get jiggy with the wire brushes and scrapers..

engine in

engine out...

nsr sill

osr sill

nsr floor, near bumper bracket

mainly solid rear panel

tank

rot free chassis leg

the next hurdle...

cheers for reading

declan morris · 22-10-2009, 08:55 PM

excellent stuff Bloomers, a right pain in the hole but well worth it in the end, keep it up man

cornishben · 22-10-2009, 09:24 PM

Looks good mate, keep the updates coming

cossie daz · 22-10-2009, 10:05 PM

good luck there mate ,sure it will look mint when finished

RS-Stian · 23-10-2009, 08:32 AM

Good project. Looking forward for updates on this one. Keep it up mate

Glenn. · 23-10-2009, 03:29 PM

Good work there mate.Its nice to see another saff getting looked after.

jon_ross · 10-11-2009, 12:52 PM

looks sweet mate i wish mine was as good as that ive spent 3 weekends welding so far and atlease another two to go. id expect to see a bit more inside the sills so id get some nice thick sheet metal aswell

Simmo · 10-11-2009, 07:26 PM

Keeping an eye on this... keep 'em coming!!!

Bloomers · 22-11-2009, 06:13 PM

A little update....

Progress has slowed down, due to 2 things: The massively tedious job of removing all the underseal from a large car, and my the earache my missus has been giving me about focusing on my preperation for RAF selection in January (which is fair enough lol)

but i have been able to get in a hour here and there, a few times a week...

Finally got my rear beam off, so have been able to start doing the underseal it was blocking

20 year old ford underseal, 3-4 mil thick in places. its a wonder these things can rust at all

rear end, mainly cleaned up

stripped floor

oily mess, this is some after market sealent thats been put on. done the hjob, but a proper pain to get off. hardsuch chips off fine, but the softer bits are going to require petrol and elbow grease

Me, enjoying my sunday afternoon

Once its all done, the holes will be welded up, brown bits removed and/or treated and the whole floor zinc or etch primed. then this stuff is going on...

Upol Raptor loadliner. should take the knocks and bumps suffieciently. and is also tintable, so will come out Moonstone Blue with the addition of a bit of base coat

cheers for reading, sorry its not the most interesting post

RS-Stian · 22-11-2009, 07:03 PM

Great progress. I've been through the same hard work getting the undersealing off so I know exactly how you feel. But trust me, it's definitely worth it in the end even though I was so close giving the whole shit up. Just use our time and don't rush it, sure it will be a minter when done

jason_nike · 22-11-2009, 09:07 PM

Great work, good luck with the project, hope all goes well

andycosworth · 22-11-2009, 09:21 PM

gr8 work m8

all will b worth it in the end

mike77cos · 23-11-2009, 12:33 PM

Coming on great mate

Nash · 23-11-2009, 04:49 PM

Good work. RAF selection is a piece of piss compared to stripping underseal off, trust me i know.

Bloomers · 23-11-2009, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

Good work. RAF selection is a piece of piss compared to stripping underseal off, trust me i know.

lol, i really hope your right

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cornishben Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: cornwall Posts: 63 Rep Power: 3	Very exciting, will be watching this thread closely.

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Bloomers Cornish Fasty Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 834 Rep Power: 4	Thanks peeps M4tt247 - basically, i shakes its tits off once your in 3 figure speeds, i've got a new prop donut ready to fit, was going to refurb and balance both props and get my shafts checked. i would of thought it was wheel balance, but it does it regardless of wheel choice Had all my seats and carpet out this evening, only to find one of my seat mounts has succumbed to the down stuff, pretty much. oh well, suppose i better get used to find that lol __________________ My resto thread 1990 4x4 Sapphire Daily

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andycos Part of the Furniture Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 169 Rep Power: 6	Good luck with the resto. Think i may have seen it down Bude maybe parked near to the newsagents not far from the falcon hotel pic ? If you see a white Sapph parked next to the Brendan arms soon,that will probably be mine ! Cheers Andy..

13-10-2009, 08:01 PM	#12
Bloomers Cornish Fasty Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 834 Rep Power: 4	Will keep an eye out, bud __________________ My resto thread 1990 4x4 Sapphire Daily

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m4tt274 PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Doncaster Posts: 3,218 Rep Power: 6	thats pal. thats similar to what myn has started doing, it dosent shake its ass off that much its just a fine vibration. think its probably the prop. __________________ mk1 fiesta restoration! - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...-now-on-d.html

18-10-2009, 11:30 PM	#14
Bloomers Cornish Fasty Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 834 Rep Power: 4	little update. spent a few hours on her over the weekend, and i'm now at the stage of having the engine and box out the way with the removal of 8 bolts and the use of a couple jacks interior has been all stripped out...... however, that has led to the first bits of rust showing thier ugly heads lol drivers seat mount drivers side rear footwell also found over £3 in change that will help pay for all this old 10p not a lot to a sierra with no bumper! the powerhouse another breakdown in the waiting :S sure there was a clip on there!! hopefully have the running gear and rear beam off this week, then the fun begin Anyone give me advice on the correct way of tackling the underside. i'm not after a concours look, but it would be nice to have it looking nice __________________ My resto thread 1990 4x4 Sapphire Daily Last edited by Bloomers; 18-10-2009 at 11:35 PM.

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andy130 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: ireland Posts: 5,148 Rep Power: 9	stirp all under seal off mate, put 3m sealer on then mate

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liammcl PassionFord Regular Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North East Posts: 382 Rep Power: 7	http://passionford.com/forum/3370620-post3.html This is the stuff mate.

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Tev PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 2,909 Rep Power: 8	best of luck fella ive just finished a resto on my moonstone saph, keep the updates coming, your floor looks in good condition with small amoutns of rust i found loads of random stuff when taking the carpet up __________________

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coswurv PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oxford Posts: 2,786 Rep Power: 8	Ive found this stuff on the net, i reckon it could be good for doing car undersides with as its made to be very tough for truck bed use, so should be a good product ?? http://www.u-pol.com/countries/en/navigate.htm its under products on the left handside then specialists coatings, raptor liner black. __________________ Last edited by coswurv; 19-10-2009 at 08:07 PM.

20-10-2009, 07:04 PM	#25
Bloomers Cornish Fasty Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 834 Rep Power: 4	Thanks peeps, for the posistive comments Coswurv - That stuff looks perfect! The tintable version could be made moonstone too! __________________ My resto thread 1990 4x4 Sapphire Daily

22-10-2009, 07:52 PM	#26
Bloomers Cornish Fasty Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 834 Rep Power: 4	Little update went to Essex with my mate to pick up his new 200sx yesterday so didn't get anything done. decided to work like a demon today Engine box and subframe are now dropped on the deck, ready to be pulled out the way and stored at work, once i can get the shell 4 inches higher. Prop and exhaust are off, fuel tank, rear bumper and pump are off. and i have found more rust i knew it was getting a little brown on the sil, but its one of those things you put to the back of your mind lol no matter, though. new sill on the way, once the rear beam is off, it's time to get jiggy with the wire brushes and scrapers.. engine in engine out... nsr sill osr sill nsr floor, near bumper bracket mainly solid rear panel tank rot free chassis leg the next hurdle... cheers for reading __________________ My resto thread 1990 4x4 Sapphire Daily Last edited by Bloomers; 22-10-2009 at 07:55 PM.

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declan morris I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dublin,Eire. Posts: 128 Rep Power: 4	excellent stuff Bloomers, a right pain in the hole but well worth it in the end, keep it up man __________________ My 2WD Sapph Rear End Resto Link http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/showthread.php?t=207711

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cornishben Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: cornwall Posts: 63 Rep Power: 3	Looks good mate, keep the updates coming

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cossie daz I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: gatwick Posts: 1,434 Rep Power: 9	good luck there mate ,sure it will look mint when finished

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RS-Stian www.fordclubnorway.no Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 592 Rep Power: 7	Good project. Looking forward for updates on this one. Keep it up mate __________________ My Sapphire RS Cosworth 2wd project thread Ford Club Norway

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Glenn. Professional Waffler Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 27,973 Rep Power: 33	Good work there mate.Its nice to see another saff getting looked after. __________________ NORTHEAST/NORTH YORKSHIRE ALL FORD MEET ORGANISER pm for details.

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jon_ross PassionFord Regular Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: eastbourne Posts: 400 Rep Power: 3	looks sweet mate i wish mine was as good as that ive spent 3 weekends welding so far and atlease another two to go. id expect to see a bit more inside the sills so id get some nice thick sheet metal aswell

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Simmo I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (19) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,403 Rep Power: 9	Keeping an eye on this... keep 'em coming!!! __________________ 2.1zvh FRST West Sussex RS Owners Club

22-11-2009, 06:13 PM	#34
Bloomers Cornish Fasty Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 834 Rep Power: 4	A little update.... Progress has slowed down, due to 2 things: The massively tedious job of removing all the underseal from a large car, and my the earache my missus has been giving me about focusing on my preperation for RAF selection in January (which is fair enough lol) but i have been able to get in a hour here and there, a few times a week... Finally got my rear beam off, so have been able to start doing the underseal it was blocking 20 year old ford underseal, 3-4 mil thick in places. its a wonder these things can rust at all rear end, mainly cleaned up stripped floor oily mess, this is some after market sealent thats been put on. done the hjob, but a proper pain to get off. hardsuch chips off fine, but the softer bits are going to require petrol and elbow grease Me, enjoying my sunday afternoon Once its all done, the holes will be welded up, brown bits removed and/or treated and the whole floor zinc or etch primed. then this stuff is going on... Upol Raptor loadliner. should take the knocks and bumps suffieciently. and is also tintable, so will come out Moonstone Blue with the addition of a bit of base coat cheers for reading, sorry its not the most interesting post __________________ My resto thread 1990 4x4 Sapphire Daily

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RS-Stian www.fordclubnorway.no Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 592 Rep Power: 7	Great progress. I've been through the same hard work getting the undersealing off so I know exactly how you feel. But trust me, it's definitely worth it in the end even though I was so close giving the whole shit up. Just use our time and don't rush it, sure it will be a minter when done __________________ My Sapphire RS Cosworth 2wd project thread Ford Club Norway

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jason_nike Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2,179 Rep Power: 10	Great work, good luck with the project, hope all goes well

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andycosworth I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Wales Posts: 1,355 Rep Power: 8	gr8 work m8 all will b worth it in the end __________________

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Nash Cake lover! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crewe Posts: 3,975 Rep Power: 10	Good work. RAF selection is a piece of piss compared to stripping underseal off, trust me i know. __________________ 88 Saph - 455bhp & 438lb/ft 02 CTR - 248bhp & 184lb/ft

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