Caddyshack

Thanks for the pm on the fluid.

AdrianFRST

Looked good on track today!



Marc, I'm the guy that said hello as you were just warming it up to go out btw!

M K

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Hello mate

Great photo,

Was a pleasure to meet you, sorry I could not chat longer, was quite a hectic day but an awesome 1

fezzajsy

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Very nice pic

frayz

Looks fricken epic. Congratulations Marc, enjoy.

XRT_si

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Saw the car a couple of times, it looked great! How did it feel on track?

riks2rst

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Your car was one i was looking forward to seeing at fordfair and it didnt disapoint. Well done on building a fantastic car! hope you enjoy it

M K

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Thanks guys
Was very humbled by all the attention it got and people wanting to congratulate me on finishing the build and what a top job is done, makes it all worthwhile after the 6 years of non stop headaches and expense

The car ran faultless even with a cheapo Ł100 gearbox in it, did t have to touch it at all, just checked oil and water between sessions which were fine as well, no top ups needed

Anyway here is a onboard video for the 2nd session

Andy Gallacher getting a bit sideways at 08:50 in roughly too

whizzisat114

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The car is a real credit to you Marc
It looks like you have put together a very usable car with the power ,brakes and suspension
Wish I could of come to ff and saw the car

M K

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1st session now uploaded, no idea why i done them in the wrong order lol

COLEYST200

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Looking good mate you was right that gearbox is on it's last legs lol . It would be nice to no when each uver are doing track days and ware as it would be nice to have a play when you have the skyline box in

Fudgey

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nice one marc!

sounds badass!

thielt1

Car looks great, wish I could have been there! Can't wait to see some track video after you get really comfortable in the car!

M K

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Me too

Also when the skyline box is in and I don't have to worry about that all the time

cossiedevil

Savage Marc,one of my fav builds is this credit to your workmanship and skill and it must be a great feeling to be out driving the car

Richie.

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That's worth the seven year wait

M K

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It sure does mate, doesn't actually feel like it's my car out on the track lol surreal

scarnny

Great to see it finally being used, all credit to ya for hanging in there and getting it done.
Did the first outing on track highlight any issues with the handling etc...

M K

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No mate, handling was spot on but I wasn't pushing very hard so need a lot more time to determine any changes that need to be made

COLEYST200

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Wot pound spring have you got on the front . As I'm getting a lot of roll in my focos I'v got 250 on the rear but I don't no about the fronts so just going to get some new ones and start from there but I not no wot pound to start at

M K

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I am running 650lb front springs and 500lb rears at the moment as a starting point and as I get a feel for the car il go from there

M K

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Coley or anybody else - can you tell me which pipe is which with regards the Attessa pump and diff oil resevoir ?





Thanks
Marc

markk

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One with the banjo is high pressure to the cylinder, other is the return to the tank.
Big pipe is feed to pump

Caddyshack

All labelled up for ya

Caddyshack

All the wiring and diagrams are on the ets pro site.

M K

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Where abouts is the inlet and outlet in the r32/r33 gearboxes? I don't have a complete 1 to look at yet

Thanks
Marc

Caddyshack

There is only an inlet just under the rear prop flange. The fluid is at 228psi and just flows back up the line and the pump puts it back in to the reservoir when not under pressure, just like hydraulic brakes or clutch.

Pirtek made up my pipes and they did a nice t piece to the pie that goes in to the box, that way you can run the gauge to see what it is doing.

The pumps CAN exceed 600 psiso need to be correctly plumbed but I think I am right that 228 is fully locked diff.

In your pic the long pipe with the banjo is the high pressure into the box...mine is a straight connector.

The pump runs on auto trans fluid (atf) as does the transfer box. The rest uses gearbox oil (that's where the 4.5l of shock proof goes)

COLEYST200

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M K

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Thanks for that mate

I may finish my standard box off at ford fest then start on this conversion lol


For pressure gauge I am going to plumb a sensor into my race tech dash so it's displayed on there

COLEYST200

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My rear diff failed on Satday of ford fair and my mate drove the car there by putting it in 4x4 wot psi he used to get it there I don't no but I think it was about 200psi so it's a strong set up

markk

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How are you guys seeing such hi pressures?
My brand new attessa unit switches off at around 170psi, ok when the plates are fully loaded i expect a slight increase but no way should you be able to make it 500psi

JonnyBravo

Are you going to control the box with the ecu Mark ?

M K

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From info I found on the web it said max pressure is approx 228psi ?



I have spoke to someone about doing this and it is possible if I add a G-sensor but I may go with the ETS Pro as its already got its maps done and with the f88 Ecu I would need to spend a long time setting all that up and time is big money mapping as we all know lol

Caddyshack

My one is controlled with ETS pro and is pretty much bang on 228psi.


I wonder if others have wired around the cut out switch to see such high pressures...it would seem they are not needed though.

markk

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The controller is controlling the pump cut off switch on the ETS?
Mine uses the Nissan cut off that is part of the Attessa pack.

Even with the solenoid at 100% duty the pressure in the hp line locks out at 168psi iirc.
Maybe ETS have decided more pressure is better?

Luca

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Great to see the car out and you enjoying it.

M K

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Cheers Luca

Caddyshack

Here is the schematic



Thinking about it the ETS doesn't control it as such, the Nissan cut off does and it trips out (interrupts) the low side of the 30 amp relay. Mine def reads 220 /230 psi though. The ETS must have an affect though as you can see it shift the pressure guage up and down, I think it must run the pump faster or slower but the pressure cut out must be the ultimate end of the line as pressure is just pressure. I wonder why ours are different.


The Nissan Schematic shows 228psi as max pressure though. ~(above) Have a look at "Hydraulic Control"

markk

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Interesting, i can see that on the schematic, as you said, the nissan cut off does control my lowside of the relay.
In reality i can make the pressure on the dash read what I want, but i get zero when no pressure.

AdrianFRST

I've chosen this as the number one car at Ford Fair - https://www.facebook.com/fiestaturbo

I'll have more photos on the actual site soon too.