1991 FRST Project....Track Orientated!!! - Page 2

Kev83 · 28-04-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastrob xr2i

I would check plugs, leads.
Which injectors are you using?

just running standard blues mate

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Robs Frst · 28-04-2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev83

just running standard blues mate

Like I said mate on the Phone
Going to have to upgrade the injectors to reach the bhp figures you want.
also a Lsd gearbox will help alot.

Should be interesting to see where the car is now once you get it RR.
That way you know what to upgrade make sure the lump healthy.

Kev83 · 29-04-2009, 07:12 AM

yes mate for sure. found out an interesting fact last night. The beige injectors that you upgrade to on FRST are the same as what punto GT's have in as standard........how cheap!!!

ram · 30-04-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev83

yes mate for sure. found out an interesting fact last night. The beige injectors that you upgrade to on FRST are the same as what punto GT's have in as standard........how cheap!!!

this is a great car mate i watched brammers resto thread of this car was done properly

as for injectors yeh beige 701's, there was a punto gt at my scrappy when i got mine, £15 quid lol. usually bout £70 on ebay

Kev83 · 01-05-2009, 08:03 AM

cheers ram mate. After speaking with few people, seems the beige ones will be on the limit with where im probably going to go with the car, so have to re-think on the injector front. As for the resto.....got a CD full of photo's of the restoration and i must say i was blow away with the level of detail that went into the car!! It was one of the deciding factors that changed my mind regarding stripping it out and making it into a track orientated car. As much as i would like to, i just cant bring myself to pull it apart like that.

It will be having a fresh engine dropped in however, and the chassis will be tweeked, but reagrding the interior and exterior, that will be being pretty much untouched. Its not ever going to be concours whilst own the car, as its just not my cup of tea, but the car will certainly be well looked after and will want for nothing as any of my cars have.

cheers

Zetecfiesta · 01-05-2009, 10:24 AM

still looks like a really good car!

ram · 02-05-2009, 12:06 AM

yeh mate beiges are maxed out at about 220bhp tops. im just running mine with these and a 195 chip on low boost as i cnt afford to get an ahmed chip and cossie injectors. would rather save up abit more and go full cossie management. what sort of chip & injectors you planning on running?

Kev83 · 02-05-2009, 07:16 PM

ram mate, going to go with either omex or pectel i think. However plans now changed.....read below mate

Kev83 · 02-05-2009, 07:30 PM

Right then, sent my car in this morning to be diagnosed, setup and replacement parts where required for its running issues. The bloke I took it to is local bloke, but has (had) a reasonable reputation. Gues there would be no harm in him having a look and seeing if he can work his magic......

Dropped the car off at 8.30 this morning, running fine albeit with it hesitation whilst of boost and idle problem. Left the car with him and told him to give me a shout once the car was ready for picking up. Anyhow heard nothing all day till i phoned him at half time ddring the united match (come on you reeeeeds). Said he had checked a few things but the ECU wouldnt let him in and he was purely using the exhaust probe to try and find the issue. No problem i though. Anyhow, come 4 o'clock, i get call to say he has done all he can and to come collect the car. Get to his garage, where he tells me he hasnt really been able to do a deal but has found the reason for the hesitation (lack of fuel on initial throttle response). Bit cheesed off really to say he has the car all day, but he only charged me one hours labour £45.69. Start the car, let warm up whilst disccussing possible solutions to the problem, then set off my way home. As i drive, its still flat at the bottom and delayed throttle response is still evident, but the boost problem seems to be sorted. Boosts nicely to 9psi in all gears

HOWEVER, and i do mean HOWEVER!!! As i pull up to a set of lights i notice a touch of blue smoke at the back of the car.......hmmm wasnt ever there before, possibly the car next to me. Continue driving but keep noticing a nice touch of blue smoke coming out the back of the car

Now, to say this in polite manner would be best, so here goes...

'WHAT A F&$£ING W@NKER'

Pulled up at my mates and told him to have a look out the back, car smokes slightly on tickover and more so when the car has been revved and is coming back down the revs

I can only assume that the muppet who took the car out has given it some cainage and somthing is letting go. Not had a feel of the shaft in the turbo yet for play, but im pretty sure its going to be seals gone in there

So as it stands now, the car is being taken off the road. Im going to be building a a new engine for it using the good old 2.0 zetec bottom end and the stage 3 head i have. Hopefully sorted the zetec block this afternoon, so going to make a start immediately.

Really gutted as things some to be going from bad to worse, but im not one to give up, and will make sure it gets everything it needs to be perfect again

Keep an eye out for updates

cheers, kev

zetaboostboy522bhp · 02-05-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev83

ram mate, going to go with either omex or pectel i think. However plans now changed.....read below mate

soz to hear about the car kiddo, but i think you will be needing the pectel to make that zvh run spot on mate , give us a shout if you are going with it and i will have a word with ian howell

Kev83 · 03-05-2009, 01:36 PM

cheers dude, get ian to wave his wand over it

Also be having one of those tasty looms mate

zetaboostboy522bhp · 03-05-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev83

cheers dude, get ian to wave his wand over it

Also be having one of those tasty looms mate

whenever your ready chief

Kev83 · 03-05-2009, 04:10 PM

nice one dude. Pick the mondeo engine up next weekend...£100

BRAMMER · 03-05-2009, 05:35 PM

Well Kev i'm glad to hear you bought the car from Mark

Sorry to hear that you've had the dreaded problems when you buy a new RS, just a little information that the turbo fitted to that car is a hybrid and had less than 1000 miles on it when i sold it to Mark.

The car is well know or used to be to the North staffs group and before my ownership had all it's original panels including the fuel cap which had been lead loaded by moorland classics. The car was then bought by streetdragster from Blackpool way where it was fitted with a zetec engine and ran big power hence why the front panel was cut out.

The radiator is always a issue when fitting a T3 but if yours smacked the rad then it's more to with the gearbox mounts so they're a must job on a fiesta to fit vibrotechnics.

Do you still have Marks number mate as i lost it when i changed phones??

Heres what it looked like before i bought it

Kev83 · 03-05-2009, 06:56 PM

cheers brammer mate, got the CD with the build pics mate, absolutely tip top. Got some vibrateknic mounts ready for the new engine. Not had the inlet boost hose off yet to check for play, but got a feeling the seals have gone in the turbo.

Not too sure what power to go for, but will probably be mid 250 to 300 bhp i think. PM's marks number mate

Robs Frst · 03-05-2009, 07:10 PM

Unlucky mate, Atleast your going to build a engine your happy with to your spec.
Give me a shout if you have any problems.

Kev83 · 03-05-2009, 07:19 PM

cheers rob mate. Will be building the 2.1 ZVH in house mate so will be after picking people's brains for info and advice. Will be running some tasty engine management too courtesy of mr area six himself

zetaboostboy522bhp · 03-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev83

cheers rob mate. Will be building the 2.1 ZVH in house mate so will be after picking people's brains for info and advice. Will be running some tasty engine management too courtesy of mr area six himself

if your gonna email him on tech@fiestafrenzy.co.uk it might be worth talking to him about a set of arias pistons and a rod package but he gets them from america custom built to his spec and the pound isnt the greatest at the mo so see what he can do for you tell him paul sent you

Kev83 · 10-05-2009, 10:34 AM

Bit of an update people. Not managed to get down to collect my engine as the van i was borrowing from work was in for a service over the weekend

but not to worry. Been busy getting my new 'Workshop' ready for stripping down the zetec engine and then building back up once have back from the machine shop

Now when i say 'workshop' i actually mean my mum's summerhouse

Not ideal admittedly, however i have an compressor in there, electric, plenty of space, and most importantly a fridge full of 'bevvies'

As said earlier, i have got the zetec engine sorted, and have the head here already with the newman cam and solid lifters. Bought a ZVH conversion kit of fleabay for £125 which comes with:

Felpro Headgasket
Headbolts
Brass Gallary Bungs for oil way on block
Water pump conversion Plate
1.3 Tensioner
Breather Bung (for original zetec breather)
Oil Return and Breather Fittings

On the rods and piston front, im going to see what Ian can sort for me

Before the clearout

Nice and tidy and ready to get my hands dirty

Engine being collected next weekend along with an engine stand and will start stripping down the zetec ready for the machine shop

JezSierra · 10-05-2009, 10:42 AM

will be looking forward to watching this come together

Kev83 · 30-05-2009, 09:22 AM

car now totalled

will post pics soon...

zetaboostboy522bhp · 30-05-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev83

car now totalled

will post pics soon...

hope by what youve said above is that the engines givin up and not the cars been involved in a crash

Kev83 · 31-05-2009, 09:01 AM

As written off mate. Proper gutted. Some dozy old twit rear ended me and pretty much caved in the bank end of the car

Kev83 · 31-05-2009, 09:32 AM

****edited by webteam****

bennyboy · 31-05-2009, 12:40 PM

gutted for you mate, that is proper shit

Christian and Beccy · 25-06-2009, 04:15 PM

What happened with this? Game over?

BRAMMER · 04-07-2009, 02:16 AM

No way mate i can't believe it, was the car completely wrecked or is it poss to get back on the road?

BRAMMER · 19-07-2009, 01:31 AM

CLICK HERE FOR EBAY LINK OF DAMAGE

It's repairable for less than £500

murfs frst · 19-07-2009, 01:38 AM

little bit of tlc and this would be a mint car again.

Glenny Boy · 19-07-2009, 01:31 PM

Thats a bargain.It only needs a rear quarter.I love fiesta turbos.

Robs Frst · 19-07-2009, 02:34 PM

He went to the dark side and bought a Impreza RB 320

Matt carter · 20-07-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenny Boy

Thats a bargain.It only needs a rear quarter.I love fiesta turbos.

Thats a bargain........... is it £2000 starting bid

02-05-2009, 12:06 AM	#47
ram Has a large member Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: oxFORDshire Posts: 2,160	yeh mate beiges are maxed out at about 220bhp tops. im just running mine with these and a 195 chip on low boost as i cnt afford to get an ahmed chip and cossie injectors. would rather save up abit more and go full cossie management. what sort of chip & injectors you planning on running? __________________ 1.8ZVH FRST MK4 cabby turbo E36 328i vert on 19's

02-05-2009, 07:30 PM	#49
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	EPIC FAIL!!! Right then, sent my car in this morning to be diagnosed, setup and replacement parts where required for its running issues. The bloke I took it to is local bloke, but has (had) a reasonable reputation. Gues there would be no harm in him having a look and seeing if he can work his magic...... Dropped the car off at 8.30 this morning, running fine albeit with it hesitation whilst of boost and idle problem. Left the car with him and told him to give me a shout once the car was ready for picking up. Anyhow heard nothing all day till i phoned him at half time ddring the united match (come on you reeeeeds). Said he had checked a few things but the ECU wouldnt let him in and he was purely using the exhaust probe to try and find the issue. No problem i though. Anyhow, come 4 o'clock, i get call to say he has done all he can and to come collect the car. Get to his garage, where he tells me he hasnt really been able to do a deal but has found the reason for the hesitation (lack of fuel on initial throttle response). Bit cheesed off really to say he has the car all day, but he only charged me one hours labour £45.69. Start the car, let warm up whilst disccussing possible solutions to the problem, then set off my way home. As i drive, its still flat at the bottom and delayed throttle response is still evident, but the boost problem seems to be sorted. Boosts nicely to 9psi in all gears HOWEVER, and i do mean HOWEVER!!! As i pull up to a set of lights i notice a touch of blue smoke at the back of the car.......hmmm wasnt ever there before, possibly the car next to me. Continue driving but keep noticing a nice touch of blue smoke coming out the back of the car Now, to say this in polite manner would be best, so here goes... 'WHAT A F&$£ING W@NKER' Pulled up at my mates and told him to have a look out the back, car smokes slightly on tickover and more so when the car has been revved and is coming back down the revs I can only assume that the muppet who took the car out has given it some cainage and somthing is letting go. Not had a feel of the shaft in the turbo yet for play, but im pretty sure its going to be seals gone in there So as it stands now, the car is being taken off the road. Im going to be building a a new engine for it using the good old 2.0 zetec bottom end and the stage 3 head i have. Hopefully sorted the zetec block this afternoon, so going to make a start immediately. Really gutted as things some to be going from bad to worse, but im not one to give up, and will make sure it gets everything it needs to be perfect again Keep an eye out for updates cheers, kev

03-05-2009, 05:35 PM	#54
BRAMMER Passionford.com Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North West Posts: 3,710	Well Kev i'm glad to hear you bought the car from Mark Sorry to hear that you've had the dreaded problems when you buy a new RS, just a little information that the turbo fitted to that car is a hybrid and had less than 1000 miles on it when i sold it to Mark. The car is well know or used to be to the North staffs group and before my ownership had all it's original panels including the fuel cap which had been lead loaded by moorland classics. The car was then bought by streetdragster from Blackpool way where it was fitted with a zetec engine and ran big power hence why the front panel was cut out. The radiator is always a issue when fitting a T3 but if yours smacked the rad then it's more to with the gearbox mounts so they're a must job on a fiesta to fit vibrotechnics. Do you still have Marks number mate as i lost it when i changed phones?? Heres what it looked like before i bought it __________________ Cosworth Photoshoot

03-05-2009, 07:10 PM	#56
Robs Frst Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Watford Posts: 2,316	Unlucky mate, Atleast your going to build a engine your happy with to your spec. Give me a shout if you have any problems. __________________

10-05-2009, 10:42 AM	#60
JezSierra happy with that Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1,154	will be looking forward to watching this come together __________________ i only drink beer on days that end in Y!

29-04-2009, 07:12 AM	#43
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	yes mate for sure. found out an interesting fact last night. The beige injectors that you upgrade to on FRST are the same as what punto GT's have in as standard........how cheap!!!

01-05-2009, 08:03 AM	#45
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	cheers ram mate. After speaking with few people, seems the beige ones will be on the limit with where im probably going to go with the car, so have to re-think on the injector front. As for the resto.....got a CD full of photo's of the restoration and i must say i was blow away with the level of detail that went into the car!! It was one of the deciding factors that changed my mind regarding stripping it out and making it into a track orientated car. As much as i would like to, i just cant bring myself to pull it apart like that. It will be having a fresh engine dropped in however, and the chassis will be tweeked, but reagrding the interior and exterior, that will be being pretty much untouched. Its not ever going to be concours whilst own the car, as its just not my cup of tea, but the car will certainly be well looked after and will want for nothing as any of my cars have. cheers

01-05-2009, 10:24 AM	#46
Zetecfiesta PassionFord Post Troll Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Westhoughton Bolton Posts: 3,127	still looks like a really good car!

02-05-2009, 07:16 PM	#48
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	ram mate, going to go with either omex or pectel i think. However plans now changed.....read below mate

03-05-2009, 01:36 PM	#51
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	cheers dude, get ian to wave his wand over it Also be having one of those tasty looms mate

03-05-2009, 04:10 PM	#53
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	nice one dude. Pick the mondeo engine up next weekend...£100

03-05-2009, 06:56 PM	#55
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	cheers brammer mate, got the CD with the build pics mate, absolutely tip top. Got some vibrateknic mounts ready for the new engine. Not had the inlet boost hose off yet to check for play, but got a feeling the seals have gone in the turbo. Not too sure what power to go for, but will probably be mid 250 to 300 bhp i think. PM's marks number mate

03-05-2009, 07:19 PM	#57
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	cheers rob mate. Will be building the 2.1 ZVH in house mate so will be after picking people's brains for info and advice. Will be running some tasty engine management too courtesy of mr area six himself

10-05-2009, 10:34 AM	#59
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	Bit of an update people. Not managed to get down to collect my engine as the van i was borrowing from work was in for a service over the weekend but not to worry. Been busy getting my new 'Workshop' ready for stripping down the zetec engine and then building back up once have back from the machine shop Now when i say 'workshop' i actually mean my mum's summerhouse Not ideal admittedly, however i have an compressor in there, electric, plenty of space, and most importantly a fridge full of 'bevvies' As said earlier, i have got the zetec engine sorted, and have the head here already with the newman cam and solid lifters. Bought a ZVH conversion kit of fleabay for £125 which comes with: Felpro Headgasket Headbolts Brass Gallary Bungs for oil way on block Water pump conversion Plate 1.3 Tensioner Breather Bung (for original zetec breather) Oil Return and Breather Fittings On the rods and piston front, im going to see what Ian can sort for me Before the clearout Nice and tidy and ready to get my hands dirty Engine being collected next weekend along with an engine stand and will start stripping down the zetec ready for the machine shop

30-05-2009, 09:22 AM	#61
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	car now totalled will post pics soon...

31-05-2009, 09:01 AM	#63
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	As written off mate. Proper gutted. Some dozy old twit rear ended me and pretty much caved in the bank end of the car

31-05-2009, 09:32 AM	#64
Kev83 2.1 ZVH build underway... Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 165	**edited by webteam** Last edited by Eagle; 01-06-2009 at 06:45 AM.

31-05-2009, 12:40 PM	#65
bennyboy I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bedford Posts: 108	gutted for you mate, that is proper shit

25-06-2009, 04:15 PM	#66
Christian and Beccy 20K+ Super Poster. Trader Score: (14) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Norfolk Posts: 21,074	What happened with this? Game over? __________________

04-07-2009, 02:16 AM	#67
BRAMMER Passionford.com Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North West Posts: 3,710	No way mate i can't believe it, was the car completely wrecked or is it poss to get back on the road? __________________ Cosworth Photoshoot

19-07-2009, 01:31 AM	#68
BRAMMER Passionford.com Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North West Posts: 3,710	CLICK HERE FOR EBAY LINK OF DAMAGE It's repairable for less than £500 __________________ Cosworth Photoshoot Last edited by BRAMMER; 19-07-2009 at 01:40 AM.

19-07-2009, 01:38 AM	#69
murfs frst Too many posts.. I need a life!! Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: harrow n london Posts: 746	little bit of tlc and this would be a mint car again. __________________ ford fiesta rs turbo honda civic type r If it dont fit dont force it.......

19-07-2009, 01:31 PM	#70
Glenny Boy 10K+ Poster!! Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Darlington county durham Posts: 14,946	Thats a bargain.It only needs a rear quarter.I love fiesta turbos. __________________ SCOTCH CORNER ALL FORD MEETS IN THE NORTH EAST/NORTH YORKSHIRE,PM FOR DETAILS

19-07-2009, 02:34 PM	#71
Robs Frst Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Watford Posts: 2,316	He went to the dark side and bought a Impreza RB 320 __________________

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