-beefy-

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yes mate , perfect !!!! will update when i get to put them on the car , staying secret for now lol

the latter mate


he a cunt , but ill see him out in the pub at some point !

chaffe

you not got this car finished yet

dingla rs

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http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthre...week-challenge!!!!

There another special k

BRAM

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Beef what stuff is it that karl used for the carbon fibre?

-beefy-

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CARBON FIBER !!!!

















u fucking numpty !!




put the shout out to get the car moved this coming week , will update when we get it mooved ,

jacko996

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FPML

Sticky.

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My lips are seeled....

BRAM

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Thanks Beef, i wasnt sure if it was the carbon fibre cloth or if it was the sticker type wrap.

Looks good

Cragrat

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Not spesh the only thing fake he has is his tan.

Pob

good to see the project back on

-beefy-

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cheers pob ,

im really trying to move it , but as always works offering overtime and im dammed to turn it down lol


always the way , you graft to get some money in to work on the car , and you work that much you dont have the time lol



still going to have a push to get it in its new home over the weekend

dojj

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can't you simply bolt some suspension and wheels to it to make it mobile beef?

or is that asking too much in the stage its at in the build?

whizzisat114

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How's the family Beefy?
Nice to see the cars still on
Sometimes all you need is a short break ay?

graham c

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work pays the bills

-beefy-

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its still mobile dojj, still on its trolley wheels ,

yeah mate , fams great just getting the last of the house up to scratch , that should make the missus happy ,

but getting the itch with the winter approaching


amen to that brother !


graham , u got a 2wd inlet manifold plenum cover

graham c

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only 4x4 but it has a extra hole in it now bud got 2wd throttle body tho

Cragrat

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i`ve got one chap,its polished though so you`ll no doubt end up bufty...

-beefy-

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update 22-10-11


ok folks ,


pleased to say were back on with the car !!!


i know its been a while but other things have taken priority noteably work and my daughter lol


anyway , got the car moved last weekend to my brothers new house , and after speaking with k , we thought first thing first should be to mock up the rear end and see how its looking as obviously when we built the car we didnt have all the parts to hand to mock up then


so a upright , steering arm , bearings wheel ect were taken to k's place and assembled ,

not to many pics but i was more intrested in actuall working on it lol

so pic of the car in its new home ,



the dolly was removed and the cradle refitted ,



rear assembly , including a 8.5 x 18 rl7 rim



now as im goign for bigger rears with the tubs ect the escos lenght tubes wont work , so these will be made to length once the rear wheel is where we want it ,


strut/ wheel assembly was then test fitted to the car ,



looks rather nice if i do say so ,

as you can see shes running in 4x4 mode

the coilover to wheel center is bang on the money



now when i got these old avo coilovers we had a good feeling they were going to be to long from the onset , so it was no surprise they topped out on the strut being 4x4 fronts there a 13 inch long body ,

so after looking at karls leada 3 ways that measure in at 10 inch long bodys thats around the length were aiming for


so ill be intouch with avo on monday to see what they can do ....


was kinda left there for now good idea of whats needed and cant measure lengths till we have shockers ,

but the bug is deffo back , prob much to the dismay of the missus whos becomeing a car widow again !!

so few bits to buy in the next couple weeks ,

aim is to have it rolling by eairly december , till then got loom and some other parts to go on and mock up !!!





but we back baby !!!!!!

cossiedevil

Good to see you back at this beefy mate

gus

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happy days mr beef

really pleased to see your moving in the right direction with the car again

wheels looks awesome

Richie.

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Looks so sweet on that RL

Will it be ready for Donington on 28th Dec


Hopefully Ka will be

Edwin van Asselt

Finally,.... and don’t you dear quitting with it !!!!!!

madfezzer

lookin good beef cake!

podaru

stunning news there Beef!
the car bug doesn't die it just gets buried under the facts of life...good to see you bringing the best thread on pf back to life!!!!

MK MOTORSPORT

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hi beef looking good ,but dont forget the shorter the links the more aggresive the camber change can you get trailing link in with a wider rear wheel , combined with the short the wheel base and standard front end you have lost the original ackerman effect then with the wrong offset the rear was designed for you have lost the scrub line you might have handling issues ie bump steer etc ,just take this into account when you choose the offset
give us a ring if i can help mate

thanks mark

mjonathan24

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Glad to see your working on it again Beef

whizzisat114

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[QUOTE=MK MOTORSPORT;5671421]hi beef looking good ,but dont forget the shorter the links the more aggresive the camber change can you get trailing link in with a wider rear wheel , combined with the short the wheel base and standard front end you have lost the original ackerman effect then with the wrong offset the rear was designed for you have lost the scrub line you might have handling issues ie bump steer etc ,just take this into account when you choose the offset

You beat me too it Mark lol

Welcome back
Big fella I look forward to your updates

How's the family ?

-beefy-

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ta fella ,

i doubt it lol

but yeah kinda got a soft spot for that rl7 lol , still going ch's but may find room for a set of 7s in the gargae lol

thanks buddy !


so true my friend , thanks for the nice comment ,

thanks for the comments mark , the links dont look to be massively shorter than what they should be , the wheel dosent sit stupidly far in or anything , also as the turrets inclined inboard im hoping this will help regards camber adjustablity with the eccentric top mounts ect ,


as with the fronts its going to be fully adjustable just cant see the point in a front upright setup at the moment , plan is to get the car to a rolling shell then go and have the setup anyalysed and dialled in if they point out any serious issues regarding the overall setup we will deal with them before fully building up the car ,


rears will be 9 x 18 et 45 rears ,




cheers mucka Ź


thanks for the positive comments peeps


beef

graham c

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cool beefy get some more bits on it them rl7s look good to

gary fraser

What an awesome car this is going to be when it's finished, crack on fella

Mark RS

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good to see you finishing her beef,any chance you would have a side on pic of the whhel on as it looks good in that colour and is giving me ideas lol.

-beefy-

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ive only got the one lol

will do !

havent right now mate but ill see what i can do !




dave the familys great fella , bab's 4 moth now and dosent stop smiling lol

hope alls well at your end mate !!

Mark RS

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your a gent beef

jacko996

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Hi Mark

Can you explain this in English lol, want to make sure I get it right

Looking great Beefy

-beefy-

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with pictures eh dave ?


lol know how u feel fella ,


ill build it , and let the suspension pro's set it up

jacko996

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Lol

Glad your back on it !!!!

And good to hear the baby is doing well 4 months already, where has that gone !!!

-beefy-

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fucked if i know mate ,


one min i was doing 18 hr stints in the garage , now im doing 3 feeds a night

MK MOTORSPORT

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hi beef what i mean is geometry is desiged knowing the ride height ,wheel base ,wheel offset track etc etc ,and the standard front end is desiged for a car with a longer wheel base than yours so the front steering arms are all wrong ,this will alter the ackerman effect ,shorter rear links will alter the way the camber changes through suspension travel and you cant alter that with top mounts ,also altering the rear wheel offset will alter scrub line ,i dont want you to build a stunning looking car that is a pig to drive ,having it set up wont compensate for the wrong geometry ,if you need advise just ring mate

thanks mark

jacko996

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Hi Mark

Can you explain scrub line please mate ?
Also my wheel ofset will be a lot different to the usual 33 ??

dojj

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what beef is doing is using a sierra bouncy/steering bit and fitting it to his escort shaped car

the difference in the width and the length of the wheel centres is what affects everything else and with him using bigger wheels than the original sierra bits were designed to be used with, this will upset the numbers even further

with pictures?

in your minds eye, picture a box that is 12 inches long, 8 inches wide and 4 inches tall

now picture a box that is 10 inches long, 7 inches wide and 5 inches tall

it's still a box right? but the angles for everything corner to corner are different which, if you put a wheel on each corner, would upset everything and if you are still doing the steering with the rack that is designed to do either or, you can see how this can rapidly affect everything else as well

everything else is based on the box figures, so you camber, castor, and all the angles that the suspension will move through when you are out on the track all need to be taken into account as well as driving it on normal roads where pot holes and shit will cause massive issues if it's set up wrong

2 examples that spring to mind are:

driving a big car like a mondeo and a small car like a fiesta, the fiesta will change direction much quicker as it's got a shorter wheelbase which is great for being nimble but not so good at going round really long corners

and the differences between the front geometry on a 2wd and 4wd sierra, they look the same but have fairly different settings, including the shape of the front arb's and the toe settings which take into account the front wheels are actually driven rather than just pushed along by the rears

i'm sure someone will come along soon to explain everything by way of a website but i'm sure you have understood what i've wrtten