My 2wd Sapphire Cosworth - Full Spec, rolling road graph, pics. Update 2/7/09 - Page 2

Staffi_ · 28-06-2008, 04:40 PM

Rich, do you think we'll EVER convert Porkie to like saffs..

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**Stu @ M Developments** · 28-06-2008, 04:58 PM

Nice read and your always a nice easy customer to deal with. Thanks for your business Rich.

CossieRich · 28-06-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments

Nice read and your always a nice easy customer to deal with. Thanks for your business Rich.

Thanks for your chip Stu. as Mark said, its a good one

Richie. · 28-06-2008, 07:23 PM

Great read Rich

Top car with a nice selection of quality parts. Love the new wheels

cossie4i_ · 28-06-2008, 10:42 PM

Good read Rich

We all know about the highs and lows of cossie ownership

Steve.

CossieRich · 29-06-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by staffi

Rich, do you think we'll EVER convert Porkie to like saffs..

No, but i thought it may be worth a try

bigchez · 29-06-2008, 12:31 PM

Good read fella! Car looks wicked on those wheels, and you're right about rwd and over 2 bar feeling quick

just hope it all stays working for a good while to let the wallet recover!

robstar · 29-06-2008, 01:08 PM

lookin good geezzaa

CossieRich · 29-06-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by robstar

lookin good geezzaa

your 1st post. welcome

STUCOS · 29-06-2008, 01:22 PM

Rich at least you own a genuine cosworth,

doctor stavros · 29-06-2008, 01:45 PM

excellent writeup on the car mate, very good read

CossieRich · 29-06-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by doctor stavros

excellent writeup on the car mate, very good read

cheers mate

B16 · 29-06-2008, 10:55 PM

Great write up Rich. Best colour going.

Paul

Mike Rainbird · 30-06-2008, 09:06 AM

If only the owner was as nice as the car

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Seems a bit pointless to do all this to it, but not get it on track - what did you say - you're too scared?

One of my favourite Sapphires, just needs a Stack dash to complete it

.

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

If only the owner was as nice as the car

.

Seems a bit pointless to do all this to it, but not get it on track - what did you say - you're too scared?

One of my favourite Sapphires, just needs a Stack dash to complete it

.

Ahh Mike. May have guessed you would have come out with some nonsense

too nervous i said, but then i drove 8 laps of the ring in a car not belonging to me, so why i'm nervous is beyond me.

Give me a stack dash then please

Mike Rainbird · 30-06-2008, 09:37 AM

Give me the money and then I will

.

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

Give me the money and then I will

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ive given you enough money. Plus there are more important things to buy than a stack dash ala hubs, beam, sump

Mike Rainbird · 30-06-2008, 09:41 AM

Chop-chop then

.

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 09:44 AM

i'm waiting for a certain someone to confirm if they are deffo breaking their 3 door for the hubs. Sump is next to order from you, and then i will have to save for a beam as there is a little something hopefully going on my car soon from Mark

Plus where are the track springs yes please?

Mike Rainbird · 30-06-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CossieRich

i'm waiting for a certain someone to confirm if they are deffo breaking their 3 door for the hubs. Sump is next to order from you, and then i will have to save for a beam as there is a little something hopefully going on my car soon from Mark

Plus where are the track springs yes please?

In a box in the back of my car along with 16 other pairs of springs, waiting for Ahmed to tell me which ones are yours

.

I keep seeing you mention this, so is Mark installing the electric fan that you asked for, in the airbox that is supposed to super-charge the engine?

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

In a box in the back of my car along with 16 other pairs of springs, waiting for Ahmed to tell me which ones are yours

.

I keep seeing you mention this, so is Mark installing the electric fan that you asked for, in the airbox that is supposed to super-charge the engine?

Thats the one Mike. Will keep you updated with progress.

jb fletch · 30-06-2008, 12:09 PM

Rich,

Big big respect to you & the car man !

Lovin it !

Your gonna have to take me for a spin Tuesday, I wanna see how these 888's do !

jb

Lo@der · 30-06-2008, 12:10 PM

Rich, great read mate and a well sorted car which looks and sounds very useable.

This is very similar spec to mine engine wise though I'm only peaking 28psi, does mark shead still do setups on l8 ecu's? I'm thinking about going to see him and ringing some more boost out of the old girl.

CharlieSaff · 30-06-2008, 12:20 PM

Great read mate, I like how you've hidden the loom

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loader5710

Rich, great read mate and a well sorted car which looks and sounds very useable.

This is very similar spec to mine engine wise though I'm only peaking 28psi, does mark shead still do setups on l8 ecu's? I'm thinking about going to see him and ringing some more boost out of the old girl.

Mark will do set-ups yes.

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 01:23 PM

Thanks for the kind words and support. I have very nearly given up as stress levels rose through the roof especially with the cam belt snapping and the near dash fire, but a calm head and a good mates who know what they are doing helped no end

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb fletch

Rich,

Big big respect to you & the car man !

Lovin it !

Your gonna have to take me for a spin Tuesday, I wanna see how these 888's do !

jb

Whats happening on Tuesday

rapidcossie · 30-06-2008, 07:11 PM

Cool as saf!

prob my fave colour too!

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rapidcossie

Cool as saf!

prob my fave colour too!

White isnt always the fastest you know

MARCOSWORTH · 30-06-2008, 08:23 PM

Great story Rich

and those wheels are so

Best colour mate

rapidcossie · 30-06-2008, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

White isnt always the fastest you know

White IS the fastest but not the nicest

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARCOSWORTH

Great story Rich

and those wheels are so

Best colour mate

Marco,

Hi mate

Is a long story as well

the wheels are without lovely and make my car. Best colour as well yes

NORTH YORKS RS SPARES · 30-06-2008, 09:37 PM

Looking superb on them wheels Rich

great post

Paul

CossieRich · 30-06-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar

Looking superb on them wheels Rich

great post

Paul

Paul,

Many thanks for the parts you have supplied me mate

cozmeister · 02-07-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

The plan is to make mine go, stop and handle very well but not end up spending mega mega bucks as i havent got it to spend.

So there IS someone else out there like me!

I love this thread, and the story with it - nice to read about someone who thinks as much of their Cossie as I do!

saffy · 02-07-2008, 12:35 PM

lovly car, real credit to you

just one thing i'd like to know:
what is the benifit of fitting 3 door front hubs?
cheers for a great read

cozmeister · 02-07-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saffy

what is the benifit of fitting 3 door front hubs?

They were built for touring car racing, the Sapph ones weren't. I think it's something to do with the geometry but someone else will have a more concrete answer

carlo · 02-07-2008, 01:11 PM

Cool read & car

CossieRich · 02-07-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saffy

lovly car, real credit to you

just one thing i'd like to know:
what is the benifit of fitting 3 door front hubs?
cheers for a great read

its to do with the roll centre as it lowers the anit roll bar. I have asked suspension Guru Mike to answer the question. HE has told me but it didnt sink in. You need 3 door track arms as well

Mike Rainbird · 02-07-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CossieRich

its to do with the roll centre as it lowers the anit roll bar. I have asked suspension Guru Mike to answer the question. HE has told me but it didnt sink in. You need 3 door track arms as well

As standard the roll centre disparity front to rear is crap on a Sapphire and if the car is lowered, it actually puts the front roll centre several inches underground

. The Sierra being a homologation special, needed the roll-centres to be as close as possible from front to rear to make it handle as good as possible to compete with other cars on the circuit, so they spent the money on unique hubs that move this up to an acceptible level, along with improving the bump steer as well.

The reason that this wasn't transferred over to the Sapphires is that it makes the steering very direct and it was considered that the people buying this "rep mobile" would not like this kind of "dartyness".

28-06-2008, 04:58 PM	#42
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Mike Rainbird Moderator Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 26,161 Rep Power: 35	If only the owner was as nice as the car . Seems a bit pointless to do all this to it, but not get it on track - what did you say - you're too scared? One of my favourite Sapphires, just needs a Stack dash to complete it . __________________ Mike Rainbird Sarcasm is just a free service I provide. http://www.rsnorfolk.co.uk/ Nordschleife, there's only two barriers to worry about - the ones on the left and the ones on the right .

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30-06-2008, 09:41 AM	#58
Mike Rainbird Moderator Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 26,161 Rep Power: 35	Chop-chop then . __________________ Mike Rainbird Sarcasm is just a free service I provide. http://www.rsnorfolk.co.uk/ Nordschleife, there's only two barriers to worry about - the ones on the left and the ones on the right .

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Lo@der Passionford Thread Killer Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (8) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bournemouth Posts: 3,570 Rep Power: 10	Rich, great read mate and a well sorted car which looks and sounds very useable. This is very similar spec to mine engine wise though I'm only peaking 28psi, does mark shead still do setups on l8 ecu's? I'm thinking about going to see him and ringing some more boost out of the old girl. __________________ Low Slung Denim

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CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Thanks for the kind words and support. I have very nearly given up as stress levels rose through the roof especially with the cam belt snapping and the near dash fire, but a calm head and a good mates who know what they are doing helped no end __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread Last edited by CossieRich; 30-06-2008 at 01:33 PM.

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saffy I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: essex Posts: 127 Rep Power: 4	lovly car, real credit to you just one thing i'd like to know: what is the benifit of fitting 3 door front hubs? cheers for a great read

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