My 2wd Sapphire Cosworth - Full Spec, rolling road graph, pics. Update 2/7/09 - Page 12

mad russell · 15-08-2009, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

Done the jump lead test. With negative lead on alternator casing and negative terminal on battery the multi-meter showed 14.02v.

Couldnt get the postive lead on as there is no room but am i right in thinking i have a bad earth somewhere? Dropped back to 13.8 when i removed the lead

Chris - thanks for your help and finding cables for me.

Maybe i should renew all the cables to the battery?

Stu - i may strip it and sell the parts. undecided as yet. The fun has gone outof owning and driving it when you keep having to fix it after every journey

Hi Rich

You cannot sell your car these things are sent to test us i guess the only problem you have really is because the wiring you have is not TUV APPROVED lol

A very kind offer from Dave nice one

Russ

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CossieRich · 15-08-2009, 11:29 AM

TUV

I wont sell i just get pissed off sometimes. Very kind offer from Dave. He has lots of cable he says

Thanks mate. See you tonight for the bbq

mad russell · 15-08-2009, 12:31 PM

Russ

stu21t · 16-08-2009, 05:33 PM

so did you go to daves today and fix it?

CossieRich · 17-08-2009, 08:01 AM

No i got the cable and connectors off him though

stu21t · 17-08-2009, 11:01 AM

Get a move on then.

stu21t · 02-09-2009, 10:35 PM

u fixed it yet?

CossieRich · 03-09-2009, 08:08 AM

No

stu21t · 03-09-2009, 11:50 AM

hurry up then summers over but its not quite winter yet

CossieRich · 03-09-2009, 04:07 PM

fan loom needs renewing as well now. Had enough of it for a while

cossieDavedree · 17-09-2009, 07:25 PM

thats Unbelievable bad luck you've had. fair play to you for carrying on and fighting with it all. I been there myself.

I finished my engine rebuild for my 3dr early this year but i didnt put the car on the road, couldnt afford to. I dont want to tax,mot,insure it it this time of year.. So i'm thinking whether to save up for a gt30 conversion,, or to sell the car. byt the way whats the status of your rear diff,? was there any damage?

CossieRich · 18-09-2009, 08:29 AM

Dont know about the diff yet as i havent taken it out. Bara has said there was a problem with some bearing or other on a couple of diff's. Time will tell when i can be bothered to actually do anything with it. I have lost interest completely now

stu21t · 18-09-2009, 12:42 PM

Wanna give me the car for a while so I can fix it for you?

pnwrs2000 · 12-01-2010, 01:17 PM

Cracking resto thread and interesting read Rich.

Have been discussing wheel and brake options on Escos forum and got pointed in the direction of your thread.

Few questions for you if i can as it looks like how your car started off after its rebuild is what i want for my 2wd sapphire

1. Could you put 205 tyres on your wheels ? Love the look of yours but would prefer a smaller sidewall depth on mine thats all
2. I want stage 3 power from my sapphire so what brakes would you recommend ? I know you say 330mm's AP's are really good but do i need brakes this big for stage 3 do you think ? (ideally i actualy wanted to stick with the original 15" wheels thats all)
3. Ive been thinking about a bara diff and have spoken to them about that and also rebuilding my T5 as its a bit tired. Would you recommend that ? Quaife etc options sound a bit OTT for me i would of thought ?

Finally, if you could do it again and assuming you kept at "normal" stage 3, what, if anything, would you do differently ?

Cheers
Darren

CossieRich · 12-01-2010, 05:52 PM

Darren,

Thanks for the comments. The front tyres are 205. The only reason i could put 205 tyres on my wheels is because toyo said i could. Its because the 888 205 actually measure 212 so its alomost 215 wide.

When my car was stage 3 and even when it was running greys and silly boost through the t34 i used uprated discs and pads. Continual heavy braking did warp the discs eventually, and they do begin to fade but decent brake fluid and braided brake hoses helped somewhat. After i warped the 2nd set of discs i thought i would just buy the ap's.

Yes i would recommend Bara for a diff. I have never had a gearbox rebuilt by him but have heard good things! PM Marco on here and he will see you right

The last part of your question is simple:

If i was to keep it on a typical stage 3 setup i would just go the greys route. I know the greys route isnt a stage 3 setup - that seems to be when you use 803 (dark green's) injectors but i would just do that straight off without going the greens route 1st. I wouldnt bother with a t34.48 i would go strsight for the t34.63. Everything i ended uo with on the greys conversion i would do straight out - so BD14 inlet cam, greys (or siemens range), MSD chip (was very good), vernier pulleys so cam could be dialled in to MAD spec and as much boost as possible -2.5 bar spike, proper fuel pump re-wired and setup by a pro - Mark Shead in my case.

However i wouldnt do any of that. I would go straight down the route i took after my t34 exploded and get the GT30 and after market management that i am now using.

or i would buy an Evo 6/7

Wheels, tyres, brakes, suspension are all personal preference. Lots of people would have bought cheap coilovers instead of shocks and springs like i have.

The car has changed somewhat now. There is nothing left inside apart from 2 bucket seats. Its now very noisey and intrusive, rattles and bangs and you can hear everything but i love that. I have lost interest in it so somehow i will have to get my enthusiam back as i really want to finish it off with a rear beam and get on some track days!

Hope that answers your questions Darren

fire away with anymore you have

pnwrs2000 · 13-01-2010, 11:35 AM

Cheers for the comments Rich, much appreciated

I'll have to have a think about the stage 3 set up then and will bear in mind what you've said about greys and management etc.

Tell you what, if (when

) my sapphire is done and is as good as yours, im sure id have no problem in keeping hold of my entusiasm

You've got a great car there from what i can see and i bet its a proper laugh to drive. Get yourself to a few shows and track days this year and i'll keep my eye out and hopefully might bump into you

CossieRich · 13-01-2010, 12:53 PM

Darren,

The difference between 1.7 bar boost on greens and 2.5 bar boost holding 2 bar on the greys was very noticeable. Not much more of a cost to you to go the greys or siemens injector route over the greens providing you have the t34, bigger cooler. You dont even need the bd14 inlet.

Stu at MSD will do you a good chip and the siemens injectors. All you need is for someone with det cans and wideband to set it up

Lo@der · 13-01-2010, 04:08 PM

Most reputable tuners will do a setup/check with det can and afr for £100-150 , worth just going to a pro for that kind of cash. imo

Staffi_ · 31-01-2010, 05:18 PM

Rich,

Without spending all evening reading this again, how,s it all going of late mate??

Or isn,t it??

KSA-Cossie · 31-01-2010, 05:49 PM

sure i read it was being broken and rich was after an evo.

CossieRich · 31-01-2010, 06:10 PM

It will go back on the rollers very soon and then it will be pulled to bits. Will start a proper thread in parts for sale soon. I would like an evo yes

KSA-Cossie · 31-01-2010, 06:21 PM

Sad to hear rich but will keep an eye out for some bits off ya m8.

CossieRich · 17-02-2010, 10:43 AM

Have already posted this in GD on my rolling road thread but to keep this project thread upto date here it is:

Today has been an interesting one to say the least

This is with Mark's inelt cam. Has already been mapped after the last mishap (see my resto thread).

Here are the graphs. Less boost than last time. More power and lots more lb/ft. i think the limit of the standard ports on the head have been reached. Development of my engine has now stopped for now lol.

Flywheel power

Power at wheels with boost

Wheel speed

Comparison with BD14 inlet cam from the last RR session

dojj · 17-02-2010, 02:24 PM

how come it's made the same power with a different cam then rich?

or was that the whole point? just moving the places it's made the power about abit?

CossieRich · 17-02-2010, 04:30 PM

Dojj,

Which bit of 453bhp and 481bhp is the same?

Also which part of 417 lb/ft and 474 lb/ft is the same?

MARCOSWORTH · 17-02-2010, 06:47 PM

You did not put up the old graph Rich to compare

dojj · 17-02-2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

Dojj,

Which bit of 453bhp and 481bhp is the same?

Also which part of 417 lb/ft and 474 lb/ft is the same?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARCOSWORTH

You did not put up the old graph Rich to compare

^^^^^^^

that bit

when i have a spare afternoon i will read the entire thread

CossieRich · 17-02-2010, 08:32 PM

I am either going blind or am very stupid. You see the grpah above which is labelled "comparsion with BD14 inlet cam" well on that graph there are 4 lines. The green lines are yesterdays run, the blue are from the bd14 run

i couldnt make it much simpler if i tried

Mike Kerbey · 18-02-2010, 05:33 AM

Thats an impressive change. What sort of production cam, say from the BD range, comes close to your MAD cam, Is a BD14 close duration wise etc?

MARCOSWORTH · 18-02-2010, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

I am either going blind or am very stupid. You see the grpah above which is labelled "comparsion with BD14 inlet cam" well on that graph there are 4 lines. The green lines are yesterdays run, the blue are from the bd14 run

i couldnt make it much simpler if i tried

Ahh, now i see

dojj · 18-02-2010, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

I am either going blind or am very stupid. You see the grpah above which is labelled "comparsion with BD14 inlet cam" well on that graph there are 4 lines. The green lines are yesterdays run, the blue are from the bd14 run

i couldnt make it much simpler if i tried

now you have explained it like that, it all makes perfect sense

very impresive the way the power stays there rather than being there and then tailing off again

CossieRich · 18-02-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kerbey

Thats an impressive change. What sort of production cam, say from the BD range, comes close to your MAD cam, Is a BD14 close duration wise etc?

I really dont know the answer. Im not being secretive or deliberately obstructive. Its visually massively bigger than a BD14 though.

Mike Rainbird · 18-02-2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kerbey

Thats an impressive change. What sort of production cam, say from the BD range, comes close to your MAD cam, Is a BD14 close duration wise etc?

Just buy one off Mark

. There is no point in trying to do something with that standard off the shelf items, you won't get the same results.

Billy_RS · 17-03-2010, 08:45 PM

Love this spec Rich! Just had another read through and for a standard(ish) engine, the car makes really good power.

Well played

CossieRich · 19-03-2010, 12:37 PM

Thanks Billy. Havent had any pm's from you this week. I feel neglected lol. You sorted out what engine spec you are going for now mate?

CossieRich · 19-03-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kerbey

Thats an impressive change. What sort of production cam, say from the BD range, comes close to your MAD cam, Is a BD14 close duration wise etc?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

Just buy one off Mark

. There is no point in trying to do something with that standard off the shelf items, you won't get the same results.

Mark doesnt sell them unless you have one of his engines.

dojj · 19-03-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CossieRich

Mark doesnt sell them unless you have one of his engines.

bargain that, buy a cam and get a free engine

Billy_RS · 02-04-2010, 04:10 PM

Any updates Rich?

CossieRich · 06-04-2010, 08:01 AM

Billy,

No updates. The car is in my garage with a flat battery and cobwebs on it i expect. Weather seems to be improving so i may drag it out soon

BIL N KEL · 07-06-2010, 06:14 PM

very impressive mate

never realised they were 17's on your car, i assumed they were escos monte wheels
my saff is t34.48 stg3 500 cooler, what sort of gains would i get from a gt30 and greys or siemen injectors
thanks Billy

15-08-2009, 11:29 AM	#442
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	TUV I wont sell i just get pissed off sometimes. Very kind offer from Dave. He has lots of cable he says Thanks mate. See you tonight for the bbq __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

15-08-2009, 12:31 PM	#443
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16-08-2009, 05:33 PM	#444
stu21t PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: south london Posts: 2,835 Rep Power: 10	so did you go to daves today and fix it? __________________ link to my cossie powered renault 5 http://passionford.com/forum/restora...nault-5-a.html

17-08-2009, 08:01 AM	#445
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	No i got the cable and connectors off him though __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

17-08-2009, 11:01 AM	#446
stu21t PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: south london Posts: 2,835 Rep Power: 10	Get a move on then. __________________ link to my cossie powered renault 5 http://passionford.com/forum/restora...nault-5-a.html

02-09-2009, 10:35 PM	#447
stu21t PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: south london Posts: 2,835 Rep Power: 10	u fixed it yet? __________________ link to my cossie powered renault 5 http://passionford.com/forum/restora...nault-5-a.html

03-09-2009, 08:08 AM	#448
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	No __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

03-09-2009, 11:50 AM	#449
stu21t PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: south london Posts: 2,835 Rep Power: 10	hurry up then summers over but its not quite winter yet __________________ link to my cossie powered renault 5 http://passionford.com/forum/restora...nault-5-a.html

03-09-2009, 04:07 PM	#450
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	fan loom needs renewing as well now. Had enough of it for a while __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

17-09-2009, 07:25 PM	#451
cossieDavedree Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hampshire Posts: 692 Rep Power: 6	thats Unbelievable bad luck you've had. fair play to you for carrying on and fighting with it all. I been there myself. I finished my engine rebuild for my 3dr early this year but i didnt put the car on the road, couldnt afford to. I dont want to tax,mot,insure it it this time of year.. So i'm thinking whether to save up for a gt30 conversion,, or to sell the car. byt the way whats the status of your rear diff,? was there any damage?

18-09-2009, 08:29 AM	#452
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Dont know about the diff yet as i havent taken it out. Bara has said there was a problem with some bearing or other on a couple of diff's. Time will tell when i can be bothered to actually do anything with it. I have lost interest completely now __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

18-09-2009, 12:42 PM	#453
stu21t PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: south london Posts: 2,835 Rep Power: 10	Wanna give me the car for a while so I can fix it for you? __________________ link to my cossie powered renault 5 http://passionford.com/forum/restora...nault-5-a.html

12-01-2010, 01:17 PM	#454
pnwrs2000 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Cracking resto thread and interesting read Rich. Have been discussing wheel and brake options on Escos forum and got pointed in the direction of your thread. Few questions for you if i can as it looks like how your car started off after its rebuild is what i want for my 2wd sapphire 1. Could you put 205 tyres on your wheels ? Love the look of yours but would prefer a smaller sidewall depth on mine thats all 2. I want stage 3 power from my sapphire so what brakes would you recommend ? I know you say 330mm's AP's are really good but do i need brakes this big for stage 3 do you think ? (ideally i actualy wanted to stick with the original 15" wheels thats all) 3. Ive been thinking about a bara diff and have spoken to them about that and also rebuilding my T5 as its a bit tired. Would you recommend that ? Quaife etc options sound a bit OTT for me i would of thought ? Finally, if you could do it again and assuming you kept at "normal" stage 3, what, if anything, would you do differently ? Cheers Darren

12-01-2010, 05:52 PM	#455
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Darren, Thanks for the comments. The front tyres are 205. The only reason i could put 205 tyres on my wheels is because toyo said i could. Its because the 888 205 actually measure 212 so its alomost 215 wide. When my car was stage 3 and even when it was running greys and silly boost through the t34 i used uprated discs and pads. Continual heavy braking did warp the discs eventually, and they do begin to fade but decent brake fluid and braided brake hoses helped somewhat. After i warped the 2nd set of discs i thought i would just buy the ap's. Yes i would recommend Bara for a diff. I have never had a gearbox rebuilt by him but have heard good things! PM Marco on here and he will see you right The last part of your question is simple: If i was to keep it on a typical stage 3 setup i would just go the greys route. I know the greys route isnt a stage 3 setup - that seems to be when you use 803 (dark green's) injectors but i would just do that straight off without going the greens route 1st. I wouldnt bother with a t34.48 i would go strsight for the t34.63. Everything i ended uo with on the greys conversion i would do straight out - so BD14 inlet cam, greys (or siemens range), MSD chip (was very good), vernier pulleys so cam could be dialled in to MAD spec and as much boost as possible -2.5 bar spike, proper fuel pump re-wired and setup by a pro - Mark Shead in my case. However i wouldnt do any of that. I would go straight down the route i took after my t34 exploded and get the GT30 and after market management that i am now using. or i would buy an Evo 6/7 Wheels, tyres, brakes, suspension are all personal preference. Lots of people would have bought cheap coilovers instead of shocks and springs like i have. The car has changed somewhat now. There is nothing left inside apart from 2 bucket seats. Its now very noisey and intrusive, rattles and bangs and you can hear everything but i love that. I have lost interest in it so somehow i will have to get my enthusiam back as i really want to finish it off with a rear beam and get on some track days! Hope that answers your questions Darren fire away with anymore you have __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread Last edited by CossieRich; 12-01-2010 at 05:53 PM.

13-01-2010, 11:35 AM	#456
pnwrs2000 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Cheers for the comments Rich, much appreciated I'll have to have a think about the stage 3 set up then and will bear in mind what you've said about greys and management etc. Tell you what, if (when ) my sapphire is done and is as good as yours, im sure id have no problem in keeping hold of my entusiasm You've got a great car there from what i can see and i bet its a proper laugh to drive. Get yourself to a few shows and track days this year and i'll keep my eye out and hopefully might bump into you

13-01-2010, 12:53 PM	#457
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Darren, The difference between 1.7 bar boost on greens and 2.5 bar boost holding 2 bar on the greys was very noticeable. Not much more of a cost to you to go the greys or siemens injector route over the greens providing you have the t34, bigger cooler. You dont even need the bd14 inlet. Stu at MSD will do you a good chip and the siemens injectors. All you need is for someone with det cans and wideband to set it up __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

13-01-2010, 04:08 PM	#458
Lo@der Passionford Thread Killer Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (8) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bournemouth Posts: 3,570 Rep Power: 10	Most reputable tuners will do a setup/check with det can and afr for £100-150 , worth just going to a pro for that kind of cash. imo __________________ Low Slung Denim

31-01-2010, 05:18 PM	#459
Staffi_ I LOVE CURRY Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Shell Garage... Posts: 17,303 Rep Power: 24	Rich, Without spending all evening reading this again, how,s it all going of late mate?? Or isn,t it?? __________________

31-01-2010, 05:49 PM	#460
KSA-Cossie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Shutting down jap crap Posts: 23,544 Rep Power: 31	sure i read it was being broken and rich was after an evo. __________________ cheeRS kev R/B T38,siemens blacks,500 intercooler,MSD closed loop,wasted spark,18" MO's,362mm discs,AP 6 pots,ALS & LC. Motorsport Developments 01253 508400

31-01-2010, 06:10 PM	#461
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	It will go back on the rollers very soon and then it will be pulled to bits. Will start a proper thread in parts for sale soon. I would like an evo yes __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

31-01-2010, 06:21 PM	#462
KSA-Cossie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Shutting down jap crap Posts: 23,544 Rep Power: 31	Sad to hear rich but will keep an eye out for some bits off ya m8. __________________ cheeRS kev R/B T38,siemens blacks,500 intercooler,MSD closed loop,wasted spark,18" MO's,362mm discs,AP 6 pots,ALS & LC. Motorsport Developments 01253 508400

17-02-2010, 10:43 AM	#463
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Have already posted this in GD on my rolling road thread but to keep this project thread upto date here it is: Today has been an interesting one to say the least This is with Mark's inelt cam. Has already been mapped after the last mishap (see my resto thread). Here are the graphs. Less boost than last time. More power and lots more lb/ft. i think the limit of the standard ports on the head have been reached. Development of my engine has now stopped for now lol. Flywheel power Power at wheels with boost Wheel speed Comparison with BD14 inlet cam from the last RR session __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

17-02-2010, 02:24 PM	#464
dojj Resident Wrestling Legend 1989 Ford Allegro Trader Score: (3) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Little India Posts: 39,354 Rep Power: 51	how come it's made the same power with a different cam then rich? or was that the whole point? just moving the places it's made the power about abit? __________________ Winner: Best Thread on Passionford 2007 How to Quickshift an MT75 Box don't forget i'm dyslexic peeps winning potatoes

17-02-2010, 04:30 PM	#465
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Dojj, Which bit of 453bhp and 481bhp is the same? Also which part of 417 lb/ft and 474 lb/ft is the same? __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

17-02-2010, 06:47 PM	#466
MARCOSWORTH PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (15) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nederland Posts: 3,370 Rep Power: 11	You did not put up the old graph Rich to compare __________________ Marco My engine rebuild & 2wd convert project

17-02-2010, 08:32 PM	#468
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	I am either going blind or am very stupid. You see the grpah above which is labelled "comparsion with BD14 inlet cam" well on that graph there are 4 lines. The green lines are yesterdays run, the blue are from the bd14 run i couldnt make it much simpler if i tried __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

18-02-2010, 05:33 AM	#469
Mike Kerbey Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Banstead, Surrey Posts: 936 Rep Power: 5	Thats an impressive change. What sort of production cam, say from the BD range, comes close to your MAD cam, Is a BD14 close duration wise etc? __________________ Got OCD? 450BHP YB Build thread...Voluntary donations welcome

17-03-2010, 08:45 PM	#474
Billy_RS Sierra RS Cosworth Owner! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Emirates Stadium! Posts: 4,122 Rep Power: 11	Love this spec Rich! Just had another read through and for a standard(ish) engine, the car makes really good power. Well played __________________ Cheers Billy

19-03-2010, 12:37 PM	#475
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Thanks Billy. Havent had any pm's from you this week. I feel neglected lol. You sorted out what engine spec you are going for now mate? __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

02-04-2010, 04:10 PM	#478
Billy_RS Sierra RS Cosworth Owner! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Emirates Stadium! Posts: 4,122 Rep Power: 11	Any updates Rich? __________________ Cheers Billy

06-04-2010, 08:01 AM	#479
CossieRich Did Someone Mention TUV Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Surrey Posts: 16,348 Rep Power: 25	Billy, No updates. The car is in my garage with a flat battery and cobwebs on it i expect. Weather seems to be improving so i may drag it out soon __________________ Rich MAD Built, GT30, 2.5 bar, MAD Spec inlet cam, Pro Alloy RS500 Intercooler and Rad, Bara Diff, AP 330's, Vi-PEC ECU, 2WD. 480 bhp. 474 ft/lb. Click HERE for my Cosworth Project. Big Thread

07-06-2010, 06:14 PM	#480
BIL N KEL Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: norfolk Posts: 709 Rep Power: 6	very impressive mate never realised they were 17's on your car, i assumed they were escos monte wheels my saff is t34.48 stg3 500 cooler, what sort of gains would i get from a gt30 and greys or siemen injectors thanks Billy __________________

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