scorps121212

Ill jump straight to the point. I've got a S2 RST and have gone through 2 CVH engines. I am after a 1.9 american block. Does anyone know the best place to go to get one. And what else do i need to get, or would you reccommend i get in able to run the 1.9 block.

vroooom ptssssh

I recommend a ZVH or Zetec turbo

phil_rs

iTrader: (3)

Specialised engines do these mate. A friend had one in his rst and seemed excellent!

scorps121212

How much cheaper is the ZVH and the zetec? And whats the difference in power? Cause i've heard you can get quite a bit out of the 1.9. But i would rather go for the cheaper option but still have the power if you know what i mean.

I've tried specialised engines website to get prices but their websites down at the mo. Typical.

phil_rs

iTrader: (3)

I think the 1.9 bottom end is about £2000 if I remember right

Heres a link to a zvh bottom end on ebay but not sure how good they are
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zetec-turbo-Zv...QQcmdZViewItem

SWITCHBLADE

iTrader: (5)

euro engines also do a 1.9cvh.............a bottom end fully built with uprated bearings, steel rods, forged pistons and new water and oil pumps ready for a head of your choice is just a touch over £1700 + vat.

dave

bad boy rs

iTrader: (7)

Word of advice mate

dont bother with specialised engines they are wank !

vroooom ptssssh

ZVH isnt that dear...find a 2nd hand 2.0 zetec, get some pistons/standard rods, rebuild it...plug the water ways on the front of the block and an adaptor plate for the water pump, pretty much it!

scorps121212

That ZVH looks pretty clean. Just ashame i aint got the cash right now. At least now i know roughly how much i've gotta spend. Cheers for the link mate.

scorps121212

I might try that euro engines. How much am i roughly looking at for a quality head? Soz about all the questions. This is my first time in the tuning and rebuilding world. LOL.

scorps121212

Badboy RS - You wouldn't reccommend specialised engines then? Have you had a bad experience with them? I see you've got a 2.1 ZVH in your beauty. Have you ever had any problems with it?

scorps121212

vrooooom ptsssssh - I didn't really want to go for a second hand engine. Im someone that worrys alot and i'd be constantly paranoid something was gunna go wrong with it. But thats just me. I've had a second hand 1.6 CVH put in mine just to get me around and it really doesn't sound like its gunna last long. The bottom end sounds really knocky.

vroooom ptssssh

no no no, you'd get it rebuilt ofcourse !!!

you need to buy it 2nd hand to obtain it, then rebuild it with lower compression pistons!

scorps121212

Ah yeah. Course. Didn't think. So if you were me, would you do the 1.9 or the ZVH?

SWITCHBLADE

iTrader: (5)

the zetec bottom end is prob your best bet for all out power, more parts available off the shelf too compared to a 1.9cvh. its also a more modern engine. oh and by the way i run a 1.9cvh american tall block from specialised.

dave

scorps121212

So if i was to buy a second hand ZVH, what parts would i have to rebuild. The pistons, rods, bearings, pumps. But what else?

vroooom ptssssh

You'd get the block faced and machined/honed for the pistons
youd buy main cap bearings
big end bearings
pistons
rings
oil pump
and gasket/seal set

Im doing a ZVH, as I already have all the parts, but a full zetec will be a better engine, but i'd still do a zvh over a 1.9 cvh all day long.

bad boy rs

iTrader: (7)

I spent alot of hard earned cash at specialised and it lasted all of 3 months ( low comp 1600 )

phoned them up and they didnt wanna know

herd plenty stories since

Not had any problems with the zvh i love it, shit loads of torque

scorps121212

Well i only have to get told once. Ill stay clear of them. Ill just have to search around for another place. Christian from automotive performance tuning reccommended a place called Torque of the devil. I might try them. Dont know where they're based though. You heard of them?

scorps121212

Sounds expensive but im sure its worth it. Ill just have to start looking round to find an engine first. Then the fun part will be actually saving up the money for it. LOL.

JayCC

enjoy.

babscossie

Nice!!! I'll put the kettle on!!!

scorps121212

Is that another way of saying you wouldn't use them?

turbozvh

hello mate have a look at this website got my block from they no probs at all the blokes called nathan

http://www.zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk/id17.html

scorps121212

Nice one mate. Cheers for the link.

scorps121212

Had a look at that site and the prices are pretty good. Alot cheaper than i thought. With a 2.0 ZVH, do you reckon a T4 turbo will be alright or would i have to get a T3?

turbozvh

as long as the t4 goes onto the rs turbo manifold it should be fine send nathan a email he'll be able to tell you all you need to know

scorps121212

Emailed him last night. Just wait for his reply. Dont suppose he's working weekends is he?
Another question. Do you reccommend anywhere where i can get the car undersealed and also the engine bay re-sprayed? Preferably somewhere that takes the engine out for us when they spray, then put it back in. Sweet.

turbozvh

no i dont think he works weekends. most spray shops would do the engine bay and underseal mate do a google in your local area and ring around for the best price but it would be alot cheaper taking the engine out yourself and towing the car there or asking them if they can collect it

ickey818

I also spent a lot of money at Specialised and basically ended up with completly knackered engine. Workmanship was very poor and service was crap!

Stay well clear of them

wardchris

Hi seen this thread on here thought i would just offer my services i build zvh and zetec turbos if your interested i had a company before but my partner let me down so i have started again by myself its www.powerconversions.co.uk just building website so you will only find it in the top search bar it takes about six weeks to show on the search engines google etc. Happy to help any fellow ford nut.

scorps121212

Sweet mate. At the moment im just finding out roughly how much it's gunna cost us. Ill have a look at you website and hopefully you can help.
So far i've got a price from zvh-zetecturbo.co.uk:-
2.0 zvh bottom end - £620
Conrods and arp bolts - £350
Diamond forged pistons - £400
T4 turbo - £300.

I would also eventually upgrade the head too.
Thanks again.

scorps121212

Only thing is i wouldn't know where to start when it comes to taking an engine out. To be honest. LOL.
Ill try google searching it.

wardchris

No worries let me know if your wanting some quotes, let me know what spec you are wanting to run ie power wise, managment, intercooler, the best way is to start with a good strong bottom end if your planning on upgraded bits at a time.

scorps121212

At the moment im just after a rough price for a 2.0 ZVH bottom end. And also a bigger turbo. Fitted too. I would like a T4 but i dont know if thats too big for the engine. I dont want to have too much boost going through the engine to blow it if ya know what i mean. I have already got a twin fanned front mounted airtec intercooler and a gotech management system.
I would also like forged pistons and some steel conrods. But dont know whether to save a bit longer and get them the same time as the engine or get the bottom end first then at a later date get the extras. What would you reckon?
Appreciate you taking time to help us out.

wardchris

Hi pal i personally would not fit a t4 to a zvh i think it would be too much for an 8 valve head and too lagy, a tricked up t3 or a t34 max or then your other route would be gt28 or gt30, you need the turbo to spin up nice and quick but have enough to pin you in your seat lol, but you can match all this together when you decide what spec the rest of the engine will be ie head work, cam etc. One big aspect you need is reliability so steel rods and forged pistons will make a good strong solid bottom end. I can build you one with PEC steel rods and wossner forged pistons running at 8:2:1 compression which is the same as a standard cosworth it can run up to 24psi but i ran at 20psi with great results and reliable, can do other compressions to suit if needed. Cost wise i could do one for around £1500 ready for zvh or full zetec turbo. You can email me at www.powerconversions@hotmail.co.uk if you fancy chatting about which way to go and what spec to run regards it all ie head, cam, gearbox etc. Drop us a email if you have any questions big or small cheers Chris.

babscossie

T4 turbo - £300.............. not a chance mate... double that price at least.

T4 is way too big for any zvh or zetec conversion unless your aiming for over 350bhp.

scorps121212

Thats the price it's got on the website mate. I thought it seemed a bit cheap.

scorps121212

Tried emailing you to your hotmail address but for some reason it didn't send. Tries sending it twice. Is there another address i can send it to or do you want me to post what i wrote on here? It's quite a long email. LOL.

wardchris

Try wardchris5@hotmail.co.uk i dont know whats wrong with powerconversions@hotmail.co.uk it seems to be working ok how odd lol never mind.