German Escort MK3 Cosworth 4x4 - OUTSIDE painted!!!

Cyril Sneer · 17-01-2008, 09:01 PM

So it's time to present my project, which I planed for quite a long time.
Actually, I don't know how much time I spent in looking around for all conversions done by you english neighboars...

It's not a secret that I have much respect of Wenny's Escort Cosworth... I love your car!

Outside absolutely clean... inside motorsport stuff...

So as you can guess... mine will be also absolutely clean...

So back again to my project:

Some months ago I bought a crashed Sierra Cosworth 4x4... The shell was garbage, but the rest was ok...

Next job was to find a Escort MK3 shell... and here it is...

It's in an amazing good condition. No rust!!! And that for 150 Euro (I think about 100 pounds)

Then I looked around for a Sierra 4x4 shell, so that I can take the floor pan out.

I took out everything of both shells...

In order to fit in perfectly the floor pan of the Sierra in the MK3 sheel, I had to weld up a kind of measurement frame or jig...
The frame is welded... the rest will be bolt on so that I can use the frame for future conversions... You never know...

All important mounting points like engine, stabilisator or gearbox will be on the frame, just like a fingerprint...

Here is the frame

the first brackets...

guide rails...

Yesterday I drew some guides, which will helps me in centering the axles perfectly...

These parts will be lasercutted in the following days...

That's it up to now... Updates will follow soon...

Cheers

Cyril

For my German friends: Jep... alles mit TÜV...

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purplemonster · 17-01-2008, 09:08 PM

quality work there matey
keep the updates flowing

cameron2 · 17-01-2008, 09:15 PM

So your not going to have it done for the new tax month then!
Top job.

Mr.T · 17-01-2008, 09:18 PM

Always love the german project. So much quality

mk3cosworth · 17-01-2008, 09:23 PM

looks like you`ve got a well thought out plan, keep us up to date with the progress and if theres anything you want to know just pm me
oh and edit your first part of the post you`ve spelt my name wrong

cheers wenny

frsjon · 17-01-2008, 10:01 PM

cool project...will keep a eye on this...good luck...

Simmo · 17-01-2008, 10:09 PM

Awesome stuff... keep the pics coming!!!

James-W · 18-01-2008, 01:08 AM

Eagerly await updates on this!

Also, awesome fabrication work!

James

smitsturbo · 18-01-2008, 04:47 AM

- Sim - · 18-01-2008, 07:12 AM

nice project Cyril

Keep us updated

cabrst · 18-01-2008, 07:15 AM

keep it comming

Cyril Sneer · 18-01-2008, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mk3cosworth

looks like you`ve got a well thought out plan, keep us up to date with the progress and if theres anything you want to know just pm me
oh and edit your first part of the post you`ve spelt my name wrong

cheers wenny

Thanks alot wenny... be sure I'll contact you in case I have a problem I can't solve... and... sorry for writing your name wrong

Did I mentioned that I love your car??

@all
thanks for supporting...

Due to my job, I only can work on this project on weekends, so don't expect to get an update every 2 days

ATL safety fueltank just arrived... pics next week...

Cheers

Cyril

Marc LJX · 18-01-2008, 07:41 AM

Great project, and a well equipped workshop to do it too

Twins · 18-01-2008, 08:46 AM

Great project

TurboGuido · 18-01-2008, 09:44 AM

Great project, like i said before.......

all the best to create that Beast

mariS · 18-01-2008, 09:53 AM

The next brutal Mk3. Great project. Good luck with the creating. I hope that I find You on car show in the future.

Cheers

Dan · 18-01-2008, 02:51 PM

Wicked project mate, will be a proper sleeper!

I also see something about TUV, Mike!

mk3cosworth · 18-01-2008, 05:16 PM

cheers cyril and dont worry about the name, you got any specs on what your going for yet

fezzajsy · 18-01-2008, 05:28 PM

blacky. · 18-01-2008, 07:29 PM

great project

are you keeping the front track as it is on the sierra like in wennys mk3 or narrowing it like on his van ????

AJC · 18-01-2008, 07:34 PM

awesome

Cyril Sneer · 18-01-2008, 09:39 PM

@Guido: thanx again... but nothing compares to your freaking Focos!

@Wenny: first, I want to put the Sierra floor pan into the Escort and put in the stock engine... when everything works fine and TUV approved, I wanna go for much more power... like 450 hp... But as I'am not an egine specialist, I can't tell you at this point what exactly will be done on the engine... I have to talk with Guido

@blacky: I'll take the complete floor pan form the backseats to the front... I'll keep the Sierra track... The rear axle will be fixed on custom made brackets

mk3cosworth · 18-01-2008, 10:00 PM

the front wheels will stick out past the arches with the sierra track unless you use thinner front wheels

Moonstone Mart · 18-01-2008, 10:16 PM

I will definately be keeping an eye on this one. Some fine metal work will be seen here no doubt!

Mart.

-beefy- · 18-01-2008, 11:28 PM

just need to find a sierra now so i can start mine

blacky. · 19-01-2008, 12:12 AM

as wenny says the front wheels will stick out he had wheels made to get round this

on his van the bottom arm's & driveshafts have been shortened & the anti rollbar pinched a bit to get the track down so the wheels sit right

saying that for ease of build & repair keep it sierra track

coco16i · 19-01-2008, 11:16 AM

What a great project and top quality work building the frame

Looks like you have a rather nice place to work out off and all, well equipped thats for sure.

Keep up the good work and keep the pics and updates coming. Will be keeping an eye on this as always fancied building a rwd mk3

Brian · 19-01-2008, 11:45 AM

Brian

Billy_RS · 19-01-2008, 01:43 PM

I'm keeping an eye on this. Looks good so far

mk3cosworth · 19-01-2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beefy-rst-2

just need to find a sierra now so i can start mine

ohh just so happens ive just got a sierra estate 4x4 2,0 if your interested beefy

RST Appie · 19-01-2008, 04:04 PM

Great project !!!!!

I hope you get your TUV on your car,without problems.

Cyril Sneer · 19-01-2008, 10:26 PM

Thanx everybody for the positive comments...

I'm just back from my workshop and did the first measurements on the Sierra... tomorrow, I will put the Escort on the jig and continue the measurements... I think, that during the week I will decide where to place the cuttings on both shells...

@RST Appie: The car will get TÜV... alle important steps especially the welding is under survey of an engineer

@blacky: I'm quite sure to keep the Sierra track... I don't need to shorten anything, as I will put on some rims which will fit perfectly to the arches.

Mixja · 20-01-2008, 12:32 AM

lovely work...

mk3's forever...!!!!!

blacky. · 20-01-2008, 06:12 PM

mondao 15" steels are the best fit we found for the front but if you want alloys its a one off job & you will need them to be made

XR2 · 20-01-2008, 09:10 PM

Do you plan to make it road legal for Germany?

Cyril Sneer · 20-01-2008, 09:39 PM

@Stefan (XR2): Jep... as mentioned, the construction is under survey of a TÜV engineer and will be road legal... I won't have started the project unless I am not sure to be able to go on the road and have alot of fun

Today I put the Escort on the jig and measured a littlebit around... It's amazing, but both shells are quite similar... Never thought that...

Pics coming tomorrow...

Cheers

Cyril

MrCapriScort · 20-01-2008, 09:49 PM

Sweet project

Cyril Sneer · 21-01-2008, 08:42 AM

Arrived last week... Some tubes for the jig...

Some pics of the Escort...

hammy_fiesta · 21-01-2008, 09:42 AM

shame to cut that car what a clean example ...

but i will be keeping my eye on this..

Dan · 21-01-2008, 11:34 AM

Good work mate, keep the updates coming!

17-01-2008, 09:08 PM	#2
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mk3cosworth BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: north east, hartlepool Posts: 1,764 Rep Power: 0	looks like you`ve got a well thought out plan, keep us up to date with the progress and if theres anything you want to know just pm me oh and edit your first part of the post you`ve spelt my name wrong cheers wenny

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Marc LJX I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 1,114 Rep Power: 8	Great project, and a well equipped workshop to do it too __________________ ----------------------------------- East Yorkshire RSOC

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mariS Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 219 Rep Power: 6	The next brutal Mk3. Great project. Good luck with the creating. I hope that I find You on car show in the future. Cheers __________________

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Dan 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Local, when i'm home... Posts: 22,906 Rep Power: 31	Wicked project mate, will be a proper sleeper! I also see something about TUV, Mike!

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blacky. PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: stockton Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 10	great project are you keeping the front track as it is on the sierra like in wennys mk3 or narrowing it like on his van ???? __________________ nail 0-60 in 3.4 1/4 in 11.58 *its not abuse anyway you spazz*

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Cyril Sneer Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Düsseldorf / Germany Posts: 206 Rep Power: 5	@Guido: thanx again... but nothing compares to your freaking Focos! @Wenny: first, I want to put the Sierra floor pan into the Escort and put in the stock engine... when everything works fine and TUV approved, I wanna go for much more power... like 450 hp... But as I'am not an egine specialist, I can't tell you at this point what exactly will be done on the engine... I have to talk with Guido @blacky: I'll take the complete floor pan form the backseats to the front... I'll keep the Sierra track... The rear axle will be fixed on custom made brackets __________________ Escort MK3 Cosworth 4x4 - the construction

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mk3cosworth BANNED BANNED Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: north east, hartlepool Posts: 1,764 Rep Power: 0	the front wheels will stick out past the arches with the sierra track unless you use thinner front wheels

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blacky. PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: stockton Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 10	as wenny says the front wheels will stick out he had wheels made to get round this on his van the bottom arm's & driveshafts have been shortened & the anti rollbar pinched a bit to get the track down so the wheels sit right saying that for ease of build & repair keep it sierra track __________________ nail 0-60 in 3.4 1/4 in 11.58 *its not abuse anyway you spazz*

19-01-2008, 11:16 AM	#27
coco16i Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,598 Rep Power: 8	What a great project and top quality work building the frame Looks like you have a rather nice place to work out off and all, well equipped thats for sure. Keep up the good work and keep the pics and updates coming. Will be keeping an eye on this as always fancied building a rwd mk3

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RST Appie Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: holland Posts: 283 Rep Power: 5	Great project !!!!! I hope you get your TUV on your car,without problems.

19-01-2008, 10:26 PM	#32
Cyril Sneer Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Düsseldorf / Germany Posts: 206 Rep Power: 5	Thanx everybody for the positive comments... I'm just back from my workshop and did the first measurements on the Sierra... tomorrow, I will put the Escort on the jig and continue the measurements... I think, that during the week I will decide where to place the cuttings on both shells... @RST Appie: The car will get TÜV... alle important steps especially the welding is under survey of an engineer @blacky: I'm quite sure to keep the Sierra track... I don't need to shorten anything, as I will put on some rims which will fit perfectly to the arches. __________________ Escort MK3 Cosworth 4x4 - the construction

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Mixja 420 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,303 Rep Power: 7	lovely work... mk3's forever...!!!!! __________________ Well, soon anyways... Click me sig to see how its going... _______________________________________ Only gone n started the series 1 aint i... Click the banana to see what's happenin...

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blacky. PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: stockton Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 10	mondao 15" steels are the best fit we found for the front but if you want alloys its a one off job & you will need them to be made __________________ nail 0-60 in 3.4 1/4 in 11.58 *its not abuse anyway you spazz*

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20-01-2008, 09:39 PM	#36
Cyril Sneer Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Düsseldorf / Germany Posts: 206 Rep Power: 5	@Stefan (XR2): Jep... as mentioned, the construction is under survey of a TÜV engineer and will be road legal... I won't have started the project unless I am not sure to be able to go on the road and have alot of fun Today I put the Escort on the jig and measured a littlebit around... It's amazing, but both shells are quite similar... Never thought that... Pics coming tomorrow... Cheers Cyril __________________ Escort MK3 Cosworth 4x4 - the construction

20-01-2008, 09:49 PM	#37
MrCapriScort Old Fords Never Die Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In front of laptop Posts: 807 Rep Power: 5	Sweet project

21-01-2008, 08:42 AM	#38
Cyril Sneer Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Düsseldorf / Germany Posts: 206 Rep Power: 5	Arrived last week... Some tubes for the jig... Some pics of the Escort... __________________ Escort MK3 Cosworth 4x4 - the construction

21-01-2008, 09:42 AM	#39
hammy_fiesta MKII XR2 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Carrickfergus Northern Ireland Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	shame to cut that car what a clean example ... but i will be keeping my eye on this..