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Old 21-12-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default LHD MK3 Escort Turbo - SiTech ST170 2.0 ZVH

Day one

As it sits now....... It's been mine for 7 years with myself being the only UK owner on the V5 since it came over from the Netherlands.
Now it's looking pretty rough with everything being worn out, broken or not up to spec...... but the main thing is it's a damn good shell with all original panels which is bloody hard to find these days (rocking horse shit in wet 'n' salty Scotland too!)
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Respray, new bumpers, new wheels, de-chromed etc etc etc will happen eventually....... or I could just run it rat look for a while
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All this will get ripped out for the new build.
Initially it was going to be a 1900, then 1600 CVH, now its definately a 2.0 ZVH using an ST170 bottom end and standalone management that's heading to the bay soon.
Quite a few trick features going to be used in it with a high revving 8 valve 300 BHP motor being the result.... with a good bit of help from SiTech Racing
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To be honest I much prefer sitting over this side! Plenty to be done in here too....
And thankfully no cracked dash to deal with
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Also it will now be in Fast Ford magazine's staff project section following its progress.........which is giving me an ongoing kick up the arse for me to get busy with it

My first page is in this month's with pix and an intro story of the history of the car, next issue the engine build commences!
It's probably only out for about another week, so if you wanna see it grab a peek soon

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Old 21-12-2007, 11:36 PM
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Finally getting round to it Ade

Look forward to seeing it done mate.
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That NL sticker has to stay...
Old 22-12-2007, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
That NL sticker has to stay...
Hehe, love it too but dunno if I'll get another after it sees paint.
NL banded pressed plates are a must though

Also got an odd 'Tirol' metal badge that was on it, see them on quite a few old euro Fords, maybe a dealer thing but not sure...


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Finally getting round to it Ade

Look forward to seeing it done mate.
Yep at last! Can't wait to get it sorted
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Originally Posted by Ade
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That NL sticker has to stay...
Hehe, love it too but dunno if I'll get another after it sees paint.
NL banded pressed plates are a must though

Also got an odd 'Tirol' metal badge that was on it, see them on quite a few old euro Fords, maybe a dealer thing but not sure...

Do it, Its retro cool If the car come from Holland, then it needs a NL sticker
Old 22-12-2007, 08:29 AM
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Yep leave the NL sticker on it.
Old 22-12-2007, 10:14 AM
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About time you cracked on with this Ade!
Old 22-12-2007, 01:14 PM
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love it mate
love the big lights aswel,if i ad them ill be on mine all hours.
ill be wacthin this one pal.
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Run it RAT style

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Old 22-12-2007, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS
Yep leave the NL sticker on it.
Maybe I just will. Cheers for the PM offers too


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Run it RAT style

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Its goanna have to be for a while anyway.... I'm far too impatient to do the bodywork first, engine in and running is number one priority!
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Originally Posted by Ade
Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS
Yep leave the NL sticker on it.
Maybe I just will. Cheers for the PM offers too

No prob mate. A dutch car just need the right nr plates Just PM me when you have made up your mind
Old 22-12-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS
Originally Posted by Ade
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Yep leave the NL sticker on it.
Maybe I just will. Cheers for the PM offers too

No prob mate. A dutch car just need the right nr plates Just PM me when you have made up your mind
Just did there!
Still got the original Dutch plates as I was the one who registered it for the UK
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S'pose I really should update this!

Well I've bought a few goodies for the Mk3, and got SiTech Racing building me a nice ST170 based ZVH

First off is a top spec Newman cam and solid lifters...

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Everyone swears by them so gotta be worth a go.


Recently shelled out on a nice new GT28 0.63 from AET..... first proper turbo I've ever owned, I'm a bit more used to ropey old RST T3s
This particular version of the GT28 is good for 400BHP, even though I'm going for 300+ its nice to have a bit of headroom and future potential
I requested an internal wastegate too.... ca't be arsed with the hassle of a screamer pipe potentially getting me not allowed on track or raped by the traffic cops etc....

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The engine itself.....
2.0 ZVH, ST170 bottom end, rebuilt to pretty much standard spec (forged rods and pistons) with some proper heavy duty bearings for high revving durability, as it's going to be redlining at 8000RPM.

Yes it's got a CVH head! I'm not a fan of jumping on the 'newer is automatically better' bandwagon, especially when hearing stories of Zetec heads lifting and cracking at high power. I might not be running enough power to worry, but it'll be getting plenty miles and plenty abuse so the stronger 8 valve head which consists of more metal should be better for strength and heat dissipation.
The head's been well ported too, and one of SiTech's custom compression lowering gaskets will be used too.... but not to go too low, it'll be in the low 8's.
300BHP is the minimum goal..... and then it'll get more either in that spec or another when I get bored.

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Been re-assembling the car recently too. I had a look at the S2 RST brakes and Boge shocks & springs but they don't fill me with great confidence though, really should be sourcing some better gear I think....

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Its nice to see that mk3 getting a nice engine Just one little Q tho. How long did you take to make those pics? I mean they look like you used the flash set every time
Old 10-05-2008, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS
Its nice to see that mk3 getting a nice engine Just one little Q tho. How long did you take to make those pics? I mean they look like you used the flash set every time

They don't take long at all
Just a couple of remote flash lights for some proper lighting.... it is my job after all and they were to be used in Fast Ford, so gotta look nice
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Pukka project - look forward to updates on this one
Old 10-05-2008, 06:05 PM
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Very nice ade... ive seen ur engine and it looks good!!!
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Cheers guys, hope to get a good bit of movement on this project soon!
Old 12-05-2008, 07:05 PM
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top work ade! cant wait to see it!
Old 12-05-2008, 07:42 PM
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excellent project a nice zvh expext plenty of torque from that engine
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Great project ,the "tirol" badge you mention is from the alps used to get them when we go skiing in Austria
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Originally Posted by Twins
Great project ,the "tirol" badge you mention is from the alps used to get them when we go skiing in Austria
Yeah? What does it actually mean?

A mate of mine had a Tirol badge on another old euro imported Ford years ago..... nobody really had a clue what it was and the best guess was that it was a dealer badge similar to the 'Trust Ford' ones we got here...
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Originally Posted by Ade
Yeah? What does it actually mean?

A mate of mine had a Tirol badge on another old euro imported Ford years ago..... nobody really had a clue what it was and the best guess was that it was a dealer badge similar to the 'Trust Ford' ones we got here...
it doesnt mean anything. Just to show that you where there. And it doesnt mean to trust ford cos most of don't make it
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Ahh right, I get it now, Tirol is a place!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirol

Just a few kilometers away from me
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Cool! Maybe I'll dig out the badge and stick it back on..... going to be ratty for the first year of it running so could be a cool addition
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any updates?
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Originally Posted by bezo
any updates?
Some stripping and some bits being bought... will post some pix etc up soon

What about the odd coloured van? How's it?
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looking good.. however i will warn you, those pistons are not forged, they're cast. i've emailed Mahle about this before
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another high powered zvh. i m hoping to see close to 400 later this month

good work so far
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Coming on nicely Ade, wish I was at the 'building engine' stage

GaryHurn 400 from a zvh
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This will be pretty cool when its all done, or even when its running RAT style.
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Originally Posted by Ade
Some stripping and some bits being bought... will post some pix etc up soon

What about the odd coloured van? How's it?


get some pics taken you lazy sod! its not like you dont know how to


erm yes the van..........well work has started, but im only fixing it for now to get back on the road, was gunner stick the gotech on now, but im leaving it for the new engine!!!!!!!


almost the same spec as yours will be but with a few sitech goodies
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i hoping to run 2bar boost, 400 is my top figure around 370ish would be more realistic im thinking but we'll see what happens in a few weeks
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Nik, been too busy doing all sorts including buying an XR2 today to be doing that!
Look forward to seeing how the van is coming along....

Originally Posted by MD Cos
looking good.. however i will warn you, those pistons are not forged, they're cast. i've emailed Mahle about this before
Intresting.... Conficts with info I've been told before too.
Also been told of Stock ST170 engines doing 300BHP with a bolt on turbo conversion.... wouldn't think that would be possible with cast pistons

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I doubt Mahle supply a forged piston for any production car? (excluding real exotica perhaps).. YB's use cast pistons, and they're good for 500bhp or more! Same applies to C20LET pistons, yet to be broken (when used properly)!

I don't condone bolt-on conversions though, especially those backed up by yank 'mustang' dyno figures
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Originally Posted by Ade
Intresting.... Conficts with info I've been told before too.
Also been told of Stock ST170 engines doing 300BHP with a bolt on turbo conversion.... wouldn't think that would be possible with cast pistons

its the truth unfortunately! i asked Mahle themselves. any forged piston has a 'P' in the number, the ST170 pistons have a 'v' iirc.

pa_sjo - cossies are forged, as are some XE's, jonnybravo has also spoken to mahle about that.
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Originally Posted by MD Cos
its the truth unfortunately! i asked Mahle themselves. any forged piston has a 'P' in the number, the ST170 pistons have a 'v' iirc.

pa_sjo - cossies are forged, as are some XE's, jonnybravo has also spoken to mahle about that.
Hmmmmm......... How can some people be running 300+ on these pistons then?
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Originally Posted by Ade
Hmmmmm......... How can some people be running 300+ on these pistons then?

i guess the same way that some people can run 240bhp on standard RST ones.


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