LHD MK3 Escort Turbo - SiTech ST170 2.0 ZVH

Ade · 22-12-2007, 12:32 AM

Day one

As it sits now....... It's been mine for 7 years with myself being the only UK owner on the V5 since it came over from the Netherlands.
Now it's looking pretty rough with everything being worn out, broken or not up to spec...... but the main thing is it's a damn good shell with all original panels which is bloody hard to find these days (rocking horse shit in wet 'n' salty Scotland too!)

Respray, new bumpers, new wheels, de-chromed etc etc etc will happen eventually....... or I could just run it rat look for a while

All this will get ripped out for the new build.
Initially it was going to be a 1900, then 1600 CVH, now its definately a 2.0 ZVH using an ST170 bottom end and standalone management that's heading to the bay soon.
Quite a few trick features going to be used in it with a high revving 8 valve 300 BHP motor being the result.... with a good bit of help from SiTech Racing

To be honest I much prefer sitting over this side! Plenty to be done in here too....
And thankfully no cracked dash to deal with

Also it will now be in Fast Ford magazine's staff project section following its progress.........which is giving me an ongoing kick up the arse for me to get busy with it

My first page is in this month's with pix and an intro story of the history of the car, next issue the engine build commences!
It's probably only out for about another week, so if you wanna see it grab a peek soon

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david · 22-12-2007, 12:36 AM

Finally getting round to it Ade

Look forward to seeing it done mate.

Charlie Chalk · 22-12-2007, 02:04 AM

That NL sticker has to stay...

Ade · 22-12-2007, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

That NL sticker has to stay...

Hehe, love it too but dunno if I'll get another after it sees paint.
NL banded pressed plates are a must though

Also got an odd 'Tirol' metal badge that was on it, see them on quite a few old euro Fords, maybe a dealer thing but not sure...

Quote:

Originally Posted by david

Finally getting round to it Ade

Look forward to seeing it done mate.

Yep at last! Can't wait to get it sorted

Charlie Chalk · 22-12-2007, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

That NL sticker has to stay...

Hehe, love it too but dunno if I'll get another after it sees paint.
NL banded pressed plates are a must though

Also got an odd 'Tirol' metal badge that was on it, see them on quite a few old euro Fords, maybe a dealer thing but not sure...

Do it, Its retro cool

If the car come from Holland, then it needs a NL sticker

Mr.T · 22-12-2007, 09:29 AM

Yep leave the NL sticker on it.

Rab · 22-12-2007, 11:14 AM

About time you cracked on with this Ade!

combi van man · 22-12-2007, 02:14 PM

love it mate

love the big lights aswel,if i ad them ill be on mine all hours.
ill be wacthin this one pal.

sas · 22-12-2007, 06:45 PM

Run it RAT style

S.

Ade · 22-12-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS

Yep leave the NL sticker on it.

Maybe I just will. Cheers for the PM offers too

Quote:

Originally Posted by sas

Run it RAT style

S.

Its goanna have to be for a while anyway.... I'm far too impatient to do the bodywork first, engine in and running is number one priority!

Mr.T · 22-12-2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS

Yep leave the NL sticker on it.

Maybe I just will. Cheers for the PM offers too

No prob mate. A dutch car just need the right nr plates

Just PM me when you have made up your mind

Ade · 22-12-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS

Yep leave the NL sticker on it.

Maybe I just will. Cheers for the PM offers too

No prob mate. A dutch car just need the right nr plates

Just PM me when you have made up your mind

Just did there!
Still got the original Dutch plates as I was the one who registered it for the UK

Ade · 10-05-2008, 01:27 AM

S'pose I really should update this!

Well I've bought a few goodies for the Mk3, and got SiTech Racing building me a nice ST170 based ZVH

First off is a top spec Newman cam and solid lifters...

Everyone swears by them so gotta be worth a go.

Recently shelled out on a nice new GT28 0.63 from AET..... first proper turbo I've ever owned, I'm a bit more used to ropey old RST T3s

This particular version of the GT28 is good for 400BHP, even though I'm going for 300+ its nice to have a bit of headroom and future potential

I requested an internal wastegate too.... ca't be arsed with the hassle of a screamer pipe potentially getting me not allowed on track or raped by the traffic cops etc....

The engine itself.....
2.0 ZVH, ST170 bottom end, rebuilt to pretty much standard spec (forged rods and pistons) with some proper heavy duty bearings for high revving durability, as it's going to be redlining at 8000RPM.

Yes it's got a CVH head! I'm not a fan of jumping on the 'newer is automatically better' bandwagon, especially when hearing stories of Zetec heads lifting and cracking at high power. I might not be running enough power to worry, but it'll be getting plenty miles and plenty abuse so the stronger 8 valve head which consists of more metal should be better for strength and heat dissipation.
The head's been well ported too, and one of SiTech's custom compression lowering gaskets will be used too.... but not to go too low, it'll be in the low 8's.
300BHP is the minimum goal..... and then it'll get more either in that spec or another when I get bored.

Been re-assembling the car recently too. I had a look at the S2 RST brakes and Boge shocks & springs but they don't fill me with great confidence though, really should be sourcing some better gear I think....

Mr.T · 10-05-2008, 11:26 AM

Its nice to see that mk3 getting a nice engine

Just one little Q tho. How long did you take to make those pics? I mean they look like you used the flash set every time

Ade · 10-05-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeroentjeRS

Its nice to see that mk3 getting a nice engine

Just one little Q tho. How long did you take to make those pics? I mean they look like you used the flash set every time

They don't take long at all

Just a couple of remote flash lights for some proper lighting.... it is my job after all and they were to be used in Fast Ford, so gotta look nice

Mr S1 · 10-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Pukka project - look forward to updates on this one

ShandzS1 · 10-05-2008, 07:05 PM

Very nice ade... ive seen ur engine and it looks good!!!

Ade · 10-05-2008, 07:26 PM

Cheers guys, hope to get a good bit of movement on this project soon!

bezo · 12-05-2008, 08:05 PM

top work ade! cant wait to see it!

GaryHurn · 12-05-2008, 08:42 PM

excellent project a nice zvh

expext plenty of torque from that engine

Twins · 12-05-2008, 09:07 PM

Great project ,the "tirol" badge you mention is from the alps used to get them when we go skiing in Austria

Ade · 12-05-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twins

Great project ,the "tirol" badge you mention is from the alps used to get them when we go skiing in Austria

Yeah? What does it actually mean?

A mate of mine had a Tirol badge on another old euro imported Ford years ago..... nobody really had a clue what it was and the best guess was that it was a dealer badge similar to the 'Trust Ford' ones we got here...

Mr.T · 12-05-2008, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Yeah? What does it actually mean?

A mate of mine had a Tirol badge on another old euro imported Ford years ago..... nobody really had a clue what it was and the best guess was that it was a dealer badge similar to the 'Trust Ford' ones we got here...

it doesnt mean anything. Just to show that you where there. And it doesnt mean to trust ford cos most of don't make it

Ade · 12-05-2008, 10:30 PM

Ahh right, I get it now, Tirol is a place!

XR2 · 12-05-2008, 10:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirol

Just a few kilometers away from me

Ade · 12-05-2008, 11:24 PM

Cool! Maybe I'll dig out the badge and stick it back on..... going to be ratty for the first year of it running so could be a cool addition

bezo · 15-06-2008, 01:31 PM

any updates?

Ade · 16-06-2008, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bezo

any updates?

Some stripping and some bits being bought... will post some pix etc up soon

What about the odd coloured van? How's it?

MD Cos · 17-06-2008, 12:06 AM

looking good.. however i will warn you, those pistons are not forged, they're cast. i've emailed Mahle about this before

fezzajsy · 17-06-2008, 04:30 PM

GaryHurn · 17-06-2008, 04:40 PM

another high powered zvh. i m hoping to see close to 400 later this month

good work so far

vroooom ptssssh · 17-06-2008, 08:01 PM

Coming on nicely Ade, wish I was at the 'building engine' stage

GaryHurn 400 from a zvh

AGAR-COSWORTH · 17-06-2008, 08:41 PM

This will be pretty cool when its all done, or even when its running RAT style.

bezo · 17-06-2008, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Some stripping and some bits being bought... will post some pix etc up soon

What about the odd coloured van? How's it?

get some pics taken you lazy sod! its not like you dont know how to

erm yes the van..........well work has started, but im only fixing it for now to get back on the road, was gunner stick the gotech on now, but im leaving it for the new engine!!!!!!!

almost the same spec as yours will be but with a few sitech goodies

GaryHurn · 18-06-2008, 07:02 AM

i hoping to run 2bar boost, 400 is my top figure around 370ish would be more realistic im thinking but we'll see what happens in a few weeks

Ade · 19-06-2008, 12:30 AM

Nik, been too busy doing all sorts including buying an XR2 today to be doing that!

Look forward to seeing how the van is coming along....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Cos

looking good.. however i will warn you, those pistons are not forged, they're cast. i've emailed Mahle about this before

Intresting.... Conficts with info I've been told before too.
Also been told of Stock ST170 engines doing 300BHP with a bolt on turbo conversion.... wouldn't think that would be possible with cast pistons

pa_sjo · 19-06-2008, 09:22 AM

I doubt Mahle supply a forged piston for any production car? (excluding real exotica perhaps).. YB's use cast pistons, and they're good for 500bhp or more! Same applies to C20LET pistons, yet to be broken (when used properly)!

I don't condone bolt-on conversions though, especially those backed up by yank 'mustang' dyno figures

MD Cos · 20-06-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Intresting.... Conficts with info I've been told before too.
Also been told of Stock ST170 engines doing 300BHP with a bolt on turbo conversion.... wouldn't think that would be possible with cast pistons

its the truth unfortunately! i asked Mahle themselves. any forged piston has a 'P' in the number, the ST170 pistons have a 'v' iirc.

pa_sjo - cossies are forged, as are some XE's, jonnybravo has also spoken to mahle about that.

Ade · 20-06-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Cos

its the truth unfortunately! i asked Mahle themselves. any forged piston has a 'P' in the number, the ST170 pistons have a 'v' iirc.

pa_sjo - cossies are forged, as are some XE's, jonnybravo has also spoken to mahle about that.

Hmmmmm.........

How can some people be running 300+ on these pistons then?

MD Cos · 20-06-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ade

Hmmmmm.........

How can some people be running 300+ on these pistons then?

i guess the same way that some people can run 240bhp on standard RST ones.

22-12-2007, 12:36 AM	#2
david PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 4,156 Rep Power: 12	Finally getting round to it Ade Look forward to seeing it done mate. __________________

22-12-2007, 02:04 AM	#3
Charlie Chalk Unknown. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ... Posts: 50,962 Rep Power: 59	That NL sticker has to stay... __________________ GE - 1D - T

22-12-2007, 11:14 AM	#7
Rab Fucking superstar........ Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Argyll.... It's lonely... Posts: 12,601 Rep Power: 20	About time you cracked on with this Ade! __________________

22-12-2007, 06:45 PM	#9
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10-05-2008, 01:27 AM	#13
Ade Fast Ford snapper Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,366 Rep Power: 9	S'pose I really should update this! Well I've bought a few goodies for the Mk3, and got SiTech Racing building me a nice ST170 based ZVH First off is a top spec Newman cam and solid lifters... Everyone swears by them so gotta be worth a go. Recently shelled out on a nice new GT28 0.63 from AET..... first proper turbo I've ever owned, I'm a bit more used to ropey old RST T3s This particular version of the GT28 is good for 400BHP, even though I'm going for 300+ its nice to have a bit of headroom and future potential I requested an internal wastegate too.... ca't be arsed with the hassle of a screamer pipe potentially getting me not allowed on track or raped by the traffic cops etc.... The engine itself..... 2.0 ZVH, ST170 bottom end, rebuilt to pretty much standard spec (forged rods and pistons) with some proper heavy duty bearings for high revving durability, as it's going to be redlining at 8000RPM. Yes it's got a CVH head! I'm not a fan of jumping on the 'newer is automatically better' bandwagon, especially when hearing stories of Zetec heads lifting and cracking at high power. I might not be running enough power to worry, but it'll be getting plenty miles and plenty abuse so the stronger 8 valve head which consists of more metal should be better for strength and heat dissipation. The head's been well ported too, and one of SiTech's custom compression lowering gaskets will be used too.... but not to go too low, it'll be in the low 8's. 300BHP is the minimum goal..... and then it'll get more either in that spec or another when I get bored. Been re-assembling the car recently too. I had a look at the S2 RST brakes and Boge shocks & springs but they don't fill me with great confidence though, really should be sourcing some better gear I think.... __________________ MK3 Escort LHD, ST170 2.0 ZVH, GT28, 6 speed Mk4 Escort Estate, ST170 on throttle bodies Sierra Sapphire, Cosworth 24v drifter Last edited by Ade; 13-05-2008 at 04:56 PM.

22-12-2007, 02:14 PM	#8
combi van man I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: derby Posts: 1,000 Rep Power: 6	love it mate love the big lights aswel,if i ad them ill be on mine all hours. ill be wacthin this one pal.

10-05-2008, 04:34 PM	#16
Mr S1 Don't ask - I don't know 1985 Ford Escort Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Far away from where I was.... Posts: 17,097 Rep Power: 25	Pukka project - look forward to updates on this one __________________

10-05-2008, 07:05 PM	#17
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	Very nice ade... ive seen ur engine and it looks good!!! __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

10-05-2008, 07:26 PM	#18
Ade Fast Ford snapper Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,366 Rep Power: 9	Cheers guys, hope to get a good bit of movement on this project soon! __________________ MK3 Escort LHD, ST170 2.0 ZVH, GT28, 6 speed Mk4 Escort Estate, ST170 on throttle bodies Sierra Sapphire, Cosworth 24v drifter

12-05-2008, 08:05 PM	#19
bezo powered by K26 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: europark. sitech racing Posts: 1,021 Rep Power: 9	top work ade! cant wait to see it! __________________ www.sitechracing.co.uk

12-05-2008, 08:42 PM	#20
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	excellent project a nice zvh expext plenty of torque from that engine

12-05-2008, 09:07 PM	#21
Twins 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (14) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ESSEX Posts: 15,591 Rep Power: 23	Great project ,the "tirol" badge you mention is from the alps used to get them when we go skiing in Austria __________________ My carbon clad s2

12-05-2008, 10:30 PM	#24
Ade Fast Ford snapper Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,366 Rep Power: 9	Ahh right, I get it now, Tirol is a place! __________________ MK3 Escort LHD, ST170 2.0 ZVH, GT28, 6 speed Mk4 Escort Estate, ST170 on throttle bodies Sierra Sapphire, Cosworth 24v drifter

12-05-2008, 10:48 PM	#25
XR2 Insane Bavarian Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upper Bavaria (GER) Posts: 1,268 Rep Power: 8	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirol Just a few kilometers away from me __________________ click> The story of the rebuild <click Road trip Great Britain

12-05-2008, 11:24 PM	#26
Ade Fast Ford snapper Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,366 Rep Power: 9	Cool! Maybe I'll dig out the badge and stick it back on..... going to be ratty for the first year of it running so could be a cool addition __________________ MK3 Escort LHD, ST170 2.0 ZVH, GT28, 6 speed Mk4 Escort Estate, ST170 on throttle bodies Sierra Sapphire, Cosworth 24v drifter

15-06-2008, 01:31 PM	#27
bezo powered by K26 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: europark. sitech racing Posts: 1,021 Rep Power: 9	any updates? __________________ www.sitechracing.co.uk

17-06-2008, 12:06 AM	#29
MD Cos Zetec Turbo Escos Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Suffolk/Cambs Posts: 2,249 Rep Power: 10	looking good.. however i will warn you, those pistons are not forged, they're cast. i've emailed Mahle about this before __________________ Escort RS Cosworth project underway!

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17-06-2008, 04:40 PM	#31
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	another high powered zvh. i m hoping to see close to 400 later this month good work so far

17-06-2008, 08:01 PM	#32
vroooom ptssssh It Wasnt Me! 2009 BMW E92 325i Coupé Highline My Garage Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scottyland Posts: 22,236 Rep Power: 31	Coming on nicely Ade, wish I was at the 'building engine' stage GaryHurn 400 from a zvh __________________ Passionford's realist, not to be mistaken for Pessamist! My S1Resto

17-06-2008, 08:41 PM	#33
AGAR-COSWORTH Redumbdancy Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aberdeen / Glasgow Posts: 4,621 Rep Power: 12	This will be pretty cool when its all done, or even when its running RAT style. __________________ Mk4 Golf GTI Anniversary - No. 1268

18-06-2008, 07:02 AM	#35
GaryHurn I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,155 Rep Power: 8	i hoping to run 2bar boost, 400 is my top figure around 370ish would be more realistic im thinking but we'll see what happens in a few weeks

19-06-2008, 09:22 AM	#37
pa_sjo Colossal Pervert Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 3,689 Rep Power: 12	I doubt Mahle supply a forged piston for any production car? (excluding real exotica perhaps).. YB's use cast pistons, and they're good for 500bhp or more! Same applies to C20LET pistons, yet to be broken (when used properly)! I don't condone bolt-on conversions though, especially those backed up by yank 'mustang' dyno figures __________________ Ban #1: 23/09/08-25/09/08 - Posting a photo of the Gestapo.

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