COSWORTH KA - Central Day report ... 24-04-13

Richie. · 09-12-2007, 11:33 PM

Time for a new project folks.

After having to do a lot of welding when we built B9KOS back up i decided i wanted to build something a bit newer.
First choice was obviously a Focus but with so many conversions already complete and a fair few on the go
i decided it would be good to do something different. Mk6 Fiesta, Focus estate and even a Cougar were
considered before i decided on a Ka

The project has three main components:

1. One Ford Ka shell

2. One Cosworth YB

3. Someone to do the fabrication work

The problem off getting a suitable base vehicle was solved when i contacted MAD-EVO4 about his ex-track Ka that
he had started to break for spares to start a new project himself.

http://www.adrenaline-race.com/forum...asc&highlight=

The plan is based on a completion date of July 2008 hopefully to allow it to 'debut' at either Ford Fair or National Day.

To start with we need to strip all the present running gear and remaining interior out and then transport the bare shell
to Adrenaline Race and Performance to let Danny do the required fab work to enable it to be rwd and YB powered.

Spec

Engine: Standard YB with T34 0.63, L8 with coilpacks, Swedish style plenum and a set of 55lb Siemens injectors.

Gearbox: T5 then hopefully a sequential Mullet rwd

Front Suspension: Adjustable TCAs, Compression struts etc

Rear Suspension: WRC cradle/lateral links set up to enable the rear track to be made to fit the 'Ford Racing' arches.

Brakes: Floor mounted pedal box, APs and vertical hydraulic handbrake.

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Bungle · 10-12-2007, 01:14 AM

Fuckin awesome project matey, Btw ya still got the imola's off the saff?

wide ka · 10-12-2007, 07:29 AM

looking forward to this, i think you fit some 16" monte wheels to it when done will look awsome

dave green · 10-12-2007, 07:53 AM

the saint · 10-12-2007, 07:55 AM

cool project mate

what ever happened to that yellow cossie ka severn valley motorsport built??????? i always wanted that car

Sticky. · 10-12-2007, 08:26 AM

Good luck with it all mate

Cool project

Twellsie · 10-12-2007, 08:43 AM

looking forward to seeing this one

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 09:21 AM

Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power

AquariousRS · 10-12-2007, 09:24 AM

Sweet. This should be a good project to keep an eye on

maxest · 10-12-2007, 09:27 AM

RichardPON · 10-12-2007, 09:28 AM

Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!

Luca · 10-12-2007, 09:33 AM

good project mate, looking forward to seeing the progression

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardPON

Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!

I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is

Gatecrasher · 10-12-2007, 09:54 AM

Mental

Nash · 10-12-2007, 09:59 AM

Nice one mate

Rossco · 10-12-2007, 10:34 AM

This is going to be mad, good luck fella

Munch · 10-12-2007, 11:45 AM

Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol

there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting

JonnyBravo · 10-12-2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidewayz

Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol

there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting

I know DJM have built a few now using Evo running gear.

Proper cars but I bet the build costs are MASSIVE.

Awesome project though

Shorty · 10-12-2007, 12:11 PM

Forgot about this, i remember Diva telling me about it aaaages ago!!

Gonna be mega!

Sticky. · 10-12-2007, 12:14 PM

Please dont tiger stripe this one or put silly spoilers on

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 12:22 PM

Tiger stripes are 'OK'.... Rear spoiler aint - FACT

Please dont do it Rich

Shonky · 10-12-2007, 12:30 PM

Nice!!

RichardPON · 10-12-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardPON

Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!

I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is

That wasn't really what I meant.

I was referring more to the fact that it would be RWD with a short wheelbase, and how it would handle.

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardPON

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardPON

Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!

I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is

That wasn't really what I meant.

I was referring more to the fact that it would be RWD with a short wheelbase, and how it would handle.

Yeah sorry, What I mean was.. I said to Danny myself "I take it, its going 4x4 due to the wheel base?"

He then said , no its not due to the mounting etc.. so its going RWD, But Danny seems to be sure it'll handle all ok with the work being done

Alan s1 · 10-12-2007, 01:15 PM

Ps i bet this KA is finished before my saph

McGoo 69 · 10-12-2007, 03:17 PM

gonna be a mint project

sweet lump too

AquariousRS · 10-12-2007, 03:45 PM

silly spoilers?

oh, dont forget the whole car

McGoo 69 · 10-12-2007, 03:58 PM

a whole new meaning to whale tail lol

Dan · 10-12-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidewayz

Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol

there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting

Plain white Lee, almost a proper sleeper, bar the arches

Nice one Richie, glad you got on and went with it, I've been dying to say for about 6 bloody months!

Gonna be a proper little weapon, hurry up and get it done ahead of schedule so B9 can get the treatment it deserves!

Richie. · 10-12-2007, 05:35 PM

Thanks for all the comments guys

The intention is for it to be a proper sleeper

which is the main reason for going rwd. The DJM versions use the Evo gearbox and transfer box with the engine mounted transverse like an Evo. I want the engine in the classic in line configuration, which would mean a bonnet bulge to rival B9KOS' rear spoiler if the engine was mounted to allow the front driveshafts to line up. There will be no tiger stripes or comedy spoilers and certainly no colourful wheels

The only give away externally will be the 'Ford Racing' arches (staying black), privacy glass (to hide the roll cage) and the fact that its will mainly be going sideways

The handling is something that has been thought about alot with the wheel base being approx 6 inches shorter than a Escort/Focos conversion. The reduction in track should help to make it more balanced

The yellow SVM was powered by a transverse Zetec turbo, a Puma front end and ran on 19 centrelocks

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power

Richie. · 10-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power

Hopefully the ALS will get rid of the lag

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 05:54 PM

But why a .63?

Richie. · 10-12-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

But why a .63?

Because i have a brand new one on the dining room table

Charlie Chalk · 10-12-2007, 06:06 PM

Fair enough

trevCOSS · 10-12-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

Gonna be a proper little weapon, hurry up and get it done ahead of schedule so B9 can get the treatment it deserves!

I wasnt aware he was scrapping B9?

trevCOSS · 10-12-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardPON

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardPON

Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!

I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is

That wasn't really what I meant.

I was referring more to the fact that it would be RWD with a short wheelbase, and how it would handle.

Yeah sorry, What I mean was.. I said to Danny myself "I take it, its going 4x4 due to the wheel base?"

He then said , no its not due to the mounting etc.. so its going RWD, But Danny seems to be sure it'll handle all ok with the work being done

Ford KA wheelbase = 2446mm
Mk 2 Escort wheelbase = 2408mm
Talbot Sunbeam wheelbase = 2413mm

short yes but no shorter than some other rear drive cars that have also seen similar power

MAD EVO 4 · 10-12-2007, 06:49 PM

I want 1st passenger ride

Look forward to seeing you on wednesday rich

Do you want me to post more pics ?

mikee_rs · 10-12-2007, 06:56 PM

mad project

RONNIE AMIS · 10-12-2007, 07:27 PM

mental! good luck with it all mate

10-12-2007, 01:14 AM	#2
Bungle Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SUTTON IN ASHFIELD Posts: 2,044 Rep Power: 10	Fuckin awesome project matey, Btw ya still got the imola's off the saff? __________________ Nottinghamshire PF Group

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10-12-2007, 08:26 AM	#6
Sticky. 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 23,079 Rep Power: 33	Good luck with it all mate Cool project __________________ www.mattlewismotorsportonline.co.uk www.richardburnsfoundation.com www.mt-motorsport.com

10-12-2007, 08:43 AM	#7
Twellsie PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nuneaton Posts: 7,209 Rep Power: 16	looking forward to seeing this one __________________

10-12-2007, 09:21 AM	#8
Charlie Chalk Unknown. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ... Posts: 50,889 Rep Power: 60	Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power __________________ GE - 1D - T

10-12-2007, 07:29 AM	#3
wide ka Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: wakefield Posts: 949 Rep Power: 8	looking forward to this, i think you fit some 16" monte wheels to it when done will look awsome

10-12-2007, 07:55 AM	#5
the saint Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: new milton, hampshire Posts: 2,109 Rep Power: 12	cool project mate what ever happened to that yellow cossie ka severn valley motorsport built??????? i always wanted that car

10-12-2007, 09:24 AM	#9
AquariousRS PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Skelmersdale, Lancashire Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 12	Sweet. This should be a good project to keep an eye on __________________ Tim For all your braking and suspension needs ~ Contact NUTs RuS for any questions or enquirys. For all your stickers ~ Email stickerpaul@yahoo.co.uk

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10-12-2007, 09:28 AM	#11
RichardPON 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 23,350 Rep Power: 34	Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!

10-12-2007, 09:33 AM	#12
Luca Lukesville 1994 Ford Fiesta Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 9,591 Rep Power: 17	good project mate, looking forward to seeing the progression __________________ Built @ JKM Performance - NEW SPEC 508 bhp thetrolley - Fastest FWD Topspeed - 183.99mph 11.74 @ 129.15mph

10-12-2007, 09:54 AM	#14
Gatecrasher Not welcome... Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South east... Posts: 3,020 Rep Power: 10	Mental __________________

10-12-2007, 09:59 AM	#15
Nash Cake lover! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crewe Posts: 4,072 Rep Power: 12	Nice one mate __________________ 88 Saph - 455bhp & 438lb/ft- Sold 53 FRS - Standard.......

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10-12-2007, 11:45 AM	#17
Munch Mr. Sparkle! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wiltshire - swindon Posts: 12,744 Rep Power: 20	Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting __________________ CHEERS, LEE Onslow Loves COD! Arguing on the internet is like racing in an impreza, even if you win, you're still a twat.

10-12-2007, 12:11 PM	#19
Shorty PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,012 Rep Power: 13	Forgot about this, i remember Diva telling me about it aaaages ago!! Gonna be mega! __________________ Edition 30 No. 0624

10-12-2007, 12:14 PM	#20
Sticky. 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 23,079 Rep Power: 33	Please dont tiger stripe this one or put silly spoilers on __________________ www.mattlewismotorsportonline.co.uk www.richardburnsfoundation.com www.mt-motorsport.com

10-12-2007, 12:22 PM	#21
Charlie Chalk Unknown. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ... Posts: 50,889 Rep Power: 60	Tiger stripes are 'OK'.... Rear spoiler aint - FACT Please dont do it Rich __________________ GE - 1D - T

10-12-2007, 12:30 PM	#22
Shonky V6 Ka of Love Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Wales Posts: 461 Rep Power: 9	Nice!!

10-12-2007, 01:15 PM	#25
Alan s1 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: oxfordshire/berkshire Posts: 7,056 Rep Power: 17	Ps i bet this KA is finished before my saph __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, champagne in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Please Note ; My spelling is Inteasting (Truth is its CRAP )

10-12-2007, 03:17 PM	#26
McGoo 69 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,409 Rep Power: 9	gonna be a mint project sweet lump too

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AquariousRS PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Skelmersdale, Lancashire Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 12	silly spoilers? oh, dont forget the whole car __________________ Tim For all your braking and suspension needs ~ Contact NUTs RuS for any questions or enquirys. For all your stickers ~ Email stickerpaul@yahoo.co.uk

10-12-2007, 03:58 PM	#28
McGoo 69 Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,409 Rep Power: 9	a whole new meaning to whale tail lol

10-12-2007, 05:35 PM	#30
Richie. aka Turbosailorboy Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine Posts: 6,132 Rep Power: 15	Thanks for all the comments guys The intention is for it to be a proper sleeper which is the main reason for going rwd. The DJM versions use the Evo gearbox and transfer box with the engine mounted transverse like an Evo. I want the engine in the classic in line configuration, which would mean a bonnet bulge to rival B9KOS' rear spoiler if the engine was mounted to allow the front driveshafts to line up. There will be no tiger stripes or comedy spoilers and certainly no colourful wheels The only give away externally will be the 'Ford Racing' arches (staying black), privacy glass (to hide the roll cage) and the fact that its will mainly be going sideways The handling is something that has been thought about alot with the wheel base being approx 6 inches shorter than a Escort/Focos conversion. The reduction in track should help to make it more balanced The yellow SVM was powered by a transverse Zetec turbo, a Puma front end and ran on 19 centrelocks __________________ Tyson 2000-2012, forever running in doggie heaven.....

10-12-2007, 05:54 PM	#33
Charlie Chalk Unknown. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ... Posts: 50,889 Rep Power: 60	But why a .63? __________________ GE - 1D - T

10-12-2007, 06:06 PM	#35
Charlie Chalk Unknown. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ... Posts: 50,889 Rep Power: 60	Fair enough __________________ GE - 1D - T

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MAD EVO 4 PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sandhurst, Berkshire Posts: 9,932 Rep Power: 17	I want 1st passenger ride Look forward to seeing you on wednesday rich Do you want me to post more pics ? __________________ http://www.justgiving.com/leonamills1 My sister is doing this in may for a VERY good cause please look and donate

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10-12-2007, 07:27 PM	#40
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