COSWORTH KA: APs fitted............now wheels don't fit ! 15-11-11 - Page 19

J1mbo · 01-11-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie.

Hope so

If not a upgrade to slightly bigger discs and some radial mount APs will be needed

Cheers

Very happy with how it looks

Hopefully Bedford

awsome ! hopefully be at bedford myself cant wait to see it go !

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muz · 01-11-2009, 06:26 PM

Awsome awsome work fella! Not seen this before.

andy escos · 01-11-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luca

Good boy you have been busy !

no he has,nt i have

it do look good though .

Richie. · 03-11-2009, 03:01 PM

Few more bits collected

Suede 350mm diameter with a 90mm dish

Odyssey 25 Race Battery, small but heavy

And a piece of PF history

Tial wastegate off Christian's RS Turbo

Nash · 03-11-2009, 03:19 PM

Good work Andy, Richie you best be feeding him up while hes working.

Richie. · 03-11-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

Good work Andy, Richie you best be feeding him up while hes working.

Giving him food isn't a problem, its keeping him away from the beer thats a struggle

Beer + Andy + Grinder = Bits missing usually off his hands

andy escos · 03-11-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie.

Giving him food isn't a problem, its keeping him away from the beer thats a struggle

Beer + Andy + Grinder = Bits missing usually off his hands

pmslrofl i do not drink when im at yours only when im at mine lol

warrenpenalver · 03-11-2009, 04:59 PM

Ritchie just remember the alcons have no dust seals and that the pistons etc are horrendously expensive from alcon. a guy called jacko on projectpuma has had all the pistons, pipes, shims etc remanufactured out of better materials much cheaper than alcon bits.

Also for a car like yours you might be better off buying belled discs off hispec when your current ones wear out as they are cheaper than alcon replacements plus having the advantages of being belled discs.

Alcon FRP 4 pots are awesome brakes and in my experience they brake harder than anything from hispec/brembo/wilwood with the same disc and 4 pot set up. (ive had them all over the years)

Id say the alcons on FRP standard 295mm discs are only slightly inferior compared to the 330mm discs and AP cp5200 4 pots i have on my current car.

You can get bigger discs for them with spacers.

A well maintained set of alcons are awesome, they just take a bit of care to keep in good nick. Richard parry jones tested them at boreham and he was doing 0-80-0 brake tests back to back to make them fade and he was sick first

The only problem i can see is you may reach a power limit with the engine youve got!! certainly not a problem with speeds and wieght of the car.

What does the exhaust tunnel do??? is it purely for noise purposes or are you planning on running it suuuuuper low for track???

Richie. · 03-11-2009, 05:12 PM

Hi Warren

Thanks for the info

I've heard some horror stories about them , but like you say, they are very good if maintained in A1 condition. Pistons are all clean and free to move.

Was going to spec to Martoon about a seperate disc/bell set up anyway

Exhaust tunnel is purely to enable me to get it as quiet as possible and i don't want side exit exhausts as flames out the side gives the game away

Tev · 03-11-2009, 05:14 PM

looking good fella,

warrenpenalver · 03-11-2009, 05:29 PM

People only have horror stories because they are a race caliper on a road car then wonder why they siezed up with 40000 miles road driving

As long as you have a good pad compound and clean them regularly then to be honest you wont have to do much. Most people i know with FRPs find that once theyve got them in good condition (you never know what your buying until you look really), just a caliper service once a year keeps them sweet with the occasional piston replacement if they are scored.

I suspect if your using it as a trackday beast then they will be off the car more often anyway so things like keeping them clean wont be an issue.

The Jacko guy is getting lots of stuff remade in stainless and titanium so the life can be extended anyway!!! Theres a rebuilding guide on the site in the FRP area.

Obviously with the amount of power your running you might eventually reach the calipers limit on trackdays etc ( i assume the rest of your braking system is all race stuff anyway) but if it were me, id see how it goes first before choosing to go bigger as we all know how horrendously expensive 6 pot AP's are

Gav Diamond · 03-11-2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie.

Exhaust tunnel is purely to enable me to get it as quiet as possible and i don't want side exit exhausts as flames out the side gives the game away

Yea because the climbing frame inside isn't going to get people asking, haha

Glad to see you got some enthusiasm for it dude and work is getting done, even if it is by your mate

Nash · 03-11-2009, 05:43 PM

Warren, Richie will be fine with those brakes as hes a pussy when it comes to braking

warrenpenalver · 03-11-2009, 05:46 PM

@ nash.

ritchie, technical info, rebuild guide, spare parts sourcing etc for alcon calipers can be found here: http://www.projectpuma.com/viewtopic.php?t=2231 you need to register to see it but its free to register.

sbd16v · 03-11-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrenpenalver

People only have horror stories because they are a race caliper on a road car then wonder why they siezed up with 40000 miles road driving

4000k miles

no problems there for richy then thats around 10 years use, the alloy will have corroded before he does 4k miles

andy escos · 03-11-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrenpenalver

I suspect if your using it as a trackday beast then they will be off the car more often anyway so things like keeping them clean wont be an issue.

ha ha you do know this is the anti bufty him self his garage is cleaner than his cars you put a hammer down turn around & its gone all cleaned & put back in the box ,but clean a car

i think not .

warrenpenalver · 03-11-2009, 07:17 PM

mmmm i feel there is bufty force in him as he wouldve just rattle canned the shell and had it running by now if there was no bufty force at all

Richie. · 08-11-2009, 12:46 PM

Getting closer to paint time so got my friend to do a quick photoshop to see what it will look like Frozen White vs Racing Blue

Looks cool

in the white, but i'm beginning to have bad thoughts about doing it something lairy like Olympic Blue or Zinc Yellow

warrenpenalver · 08-11-2009, 02:15 PM

Whatever colour on outside, perhaps spray the cage black and have a medium tint on the rear side and back windows

then you can pull off the sleeper look

theres going to be a few big power cars that will be like "wtf" as you sail past on track!!

Richie. · 08-11-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrenpenalver

Whatever colour on outside, perhaps spray the cage black and have a medium tint on the rear side and back windows

then you can pull off the sleeper look

theres going to be a few big power cars that will be like "wtf" as you sail past on track!!

Got my painter coming up to look at what we can do ref painting cage a different colour. Windows defo getting a light/medium tint as well.

I need to improve my driving before i go sailing past anybody

Charlie Chalk · 08-11-2009, 05:01 PM

Frozen white, Black alloys.

jonny s2 · 08-11-2009, 05:25 PM

frozen white is the way forward

Rides · 08-11-2009, 05:37 PM

FUCK me just read the whole thread.. all i can say is thats going to be one insane ford KA.. some serious work already gone into this...brilliant job...

dingla rs · 08-11-2009, 05:59 PM

not keen on the white but will look good with tinted windows

jonny s2 · 08-11-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingla rs

not keen on the white but will look good with tinted windows

agreed mate,but will look good with the slightly smoked windows and wheels,bring it upto date

Nash · 08-11-2009, 06:52 PM

White looks good mate. I think zinc yellow might look cool, but i dont know if you would get tired of it and then go onto paint it white anyway.

Lo@der · 08-11-2009, 07:10 PM

Copper slip orange ??

miller3 · 08-11-2009, 07:20 PM

polaris

-beefy- · 08-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miller3

polaris

fuck off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thts my colour lol ,

bp ultamate green , with a heavy metalflake ,

steven mc kay · 08-11-2009, 08:00 PM

polaris like my escort mate..

i would post a photo of my car up from escortrscosworth.com but i dont no how

thanks steven..

RichieST · 08-11-2009, 08:35 PM

frozen white looks cool

AustenW · 08-11-2009, 09:35 PM

Nice Project

JEEMO · 09-11-2009, 01:29 AM

Absolutely insane mate! Love the amount of work going into this.

Chip · 09-11-2009, 01:41 AM

Radiant Red with anthracite wheels.

Sticky. · 09-11-2009, 07:30 AM

Blue with the inside painted Anthracite.

Looking good mate.

Brian · 09-11-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

Radiant Red with anthracite wheels.

+1

Not that i am baised about red cars

Brian

PAUL S · 09-11-2009, 09:38 AM

tvr candy apple red, its a lovely colour in the light.

same as this mosler

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Chip · 09-11-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAUL S

tvr candy apple red, its a lovely colour in the light.

same as this mosler

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1

Too fancy a colour for the KA I reckon, needs to be a bright colour but a plain one IMHO, base colours are timeless

Twellsie · 09-11-2009, 09:53 AM

i would be tempted to go with a dark grey, something like Mercedes Tenorite grey, looks awesome in the sunlight

kinda like this

sbd16v · 09-11-2009, 12:04 PM

does it matter what colour you paint it ???

im sure it will get changed twice a year anyway

01-11-2009, 06:26 PM	#722
muz Wye Valley Hardcore 1988 Ford Escort Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hereford. West Mids Posts: 3,346 Rep Power: 10	Awsome awsome work fella! Not seen this before. __________________ "BRAVERY IS THE CAPACITY TO PERFORM PROPERLY EVEN WHEN SCARED HALF TO DEATH"

03-11-2009, 03:01 PM	#724
Richie. aka Turbosailorboy Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine Posts: 5,676 Rep Power: 12	Few more bits collected Suede 350mm diameter with a 90mm dish Odyssey 25 Race Battery, small but heavy And a piece of PF history Tial wastegate off Christian's RS Turbo __________________ www.escortrscosworth.com www.reyland.co.uk Last edited by Richie.; 03-11-2009 at 03:06 PM.

03-11-2009, 03:19 PM	#725
Nash Cake lover! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crewe Posts: 3,975 Rep Power: 10	Good work Andy, Richie you best be feeding him up while hes working. __________________ 88 Saph - 455bhp & 438lb/ft 02 CTR - 248bhp & 184lb/ft

03-11-2009, 04:59 PM	#728
warrenpenalver Puma Nutter!!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent Posts: 14,687 Rep Power: 23	Ritchie just remember the alcons have no dust seals and that the pistons etc are horrendously expensive from alcon. a guy called jacko on projectpuma has had all the pistons, pipes, shims etc remanufactured out of better materials much cheaper than alcon bits. Also for a car like yours you might be better off buying belled discs off hispec when your current ones wear out as they are cheaper than alcon replacements plus having the advantages of being belled discs. Alcon FRP 4 pots are awesome brakes and in my experience they brake harder than anything from hispec/brembo/wilwood with the same disc and 4 pot set up. (ive had them all over the years) Id say the alcons on FRP standard 295mm discs are only slightly inferior compared to the 330mm discs and AP cp5200 4 pots i have on my current car. You can get bigger discs for them with spacers. A well maintained set of alcons are awesome, they just take a bit of care to keep in good nick. Richard parry jones tested them at boreham and he was doing 0-80-0 brake tests back to back to make them fade and he was sick first The only problem i can see is you may reach a power limit with the engine youve got!! certainly not a problem with speeds and wieght of the car. What does the exhaust tunnel do??? is it purely for noise purposes or are you planning on running it suuuuuper low for track??? __________________ Medically Discharged!! Officially insane!!! My Project Thread: http://passionford.com/forum/restora...e-job-fix.html

03-11-2009, 05:12 PM	#729
Richie. aka Turbosailorboy Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine Posts: 5,676 Rep Power: 12	Hi Warren Thanks for the info I've heard some horror stories about them , but like you say, they are very good if maintained in A1 condition. Pistons are all clean and free to move. Was going to spec to Martoon about a seperate disc/bell set up anyway Exhaust tunnel is purely to enable me to get it as quiet as possible and i don't want side exit exhausts as flames out the side gives the game away __________________ www.escortrscosworth.com www.reyland.co.uk

03-11-2009, 05:14 PM	#730
Tev PassionFord Post Troll Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 2,909 Rep Power: 8	looking good fella, __________________

03-11-2009, 05:29 PM	#731
warrenpenalver Puma Nutter!!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent Posts: 14,687 Rep Power: 23	People only have horror stories because they are a race caliper on a road car then wonder why they siezed up with 40000 miles road driving As long as you have a good pad compound and clean them regularly then to be honest you wont have to do much. Most people i know with FRPs find that once theyve got them in good condition (you never know what your buying until you look really), just a caliper service once a year keeps them sweet with the occasional piston replacement if they are scored. I suspect if your using it as a trackday beast then they will be off the car more often anyway so things like keeping them clean wont be an issue. The Jacko guy is getting lots of stuff remade in stainless and titanium so the life can be extended anyway!!! Theres a rebuilding guide on the site in the FRP area. Obviously with the amount of power your running you might eventually reach the calipers limit on trackdays etc ( i assume the rest of your braking system is all race stuff anyway) but if it were me, id see how it goes first before choosing to go bigger as we all know how horrendously expensive 6 pot AP's are __________________ Medically Discharged!! Officially insane!!! My Project Thread: http://passionford.com/forum/restora...e-job-fix.html

03-11-2009, 05:43 PM	#733
Nash Cake lover! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crewe Posts: 3,975 Rep Power: 10	Warren, Richie will be fine with those brakes as hes a pussy when it comes to braking __________________ 88 Saph - 455bhp & 438lb/ft 02 CTR - 248bhp & 184lb/ft

03-11-2009, 05:46 PM	#734
warrenpenalver Puma Nutter!!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent Posts: 14,687 Rep Power: 23	@ nash. ritchie, technical info, rebuild guide, spare parts sourcing etc for alcon calipers can be found here: http://www.projectpuma.com/viewtopic.php?t=2231 you need to register to see it but its free to register. __________________ Medically Discharged!! Officially insane!!! My Project Thread: http://passionford.com/forum/restora...e-job-fix.html

03-11-2009, 07:17 PM	#737
warrenpenalver Puma Nutter!!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent Posts: 14,687 Rep Power: 23	mmmm i feel there is bufty force in him as he wouldve just rattle canned the shell and had it running by now if there was no bufty force at all __________________ Medically Discharged!! Officially insane!!! My Project Thread: http://passionford.com/forum/restora...e-job-fix.html

08-11-2009, 12:46 PM	#738
Richie. aka Turbosailorboy Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine Posts: 5,676 Rep Power: 12	Getting closer to paint time so got my friend to do a quick photoshop to see what it will look like Frozen White vs Racing Blue Looks cool in the white, but i'm beginning to have bad thoughts about doing it something lairy like Olympic Blue or Zinc Yellow __________________ www.escortrscosworth.com www.reyland.co.uk

08-11-2009, 02:15 PM	#739
warrenpenalver Puma Nutter!!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoke on Trent Posts: 14,687 Rep Power: 23	Whatever colour on outside, perhaps spray the cage black and have a medium tint on the rear side and back windows then you can pull off the sleeper look theres going to be a few big power cars that will be like "wtf" as you sail past on track!! __________________ Medically Discharged!! Officially insane!!! My Project Thread: http://passionford.com/forum/restora...e-job-fix.html

08-11-2009, 05:01 PM	#741
Charlie Chalk Unknown. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ... Posts: 50,962 Rep Power: 59	Frozen white, Black alloys. __________________ GE - 1D - T

08-11-2009, 05:25 PM	#742
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08-11-2009, 05:37 PM	#743
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08-11-2009, 05:59 PM	#744
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08-11-2009, 06:52 PM	#746
Nash Cake lover! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (3) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crewe Posts: 3,975 Rep Power: 10	White looks good mate. I think zinc yellow might look cool, but i dont know if you would get tired of it and then go onto paint it white anyway. __________________ 88 Saph - 455bhp & 438lb/ft 02 CTR - 248bhp & 184lb/ft

08-11-2009, 07:10 PM	#747
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08-11-2009, 07:20 PM	#748
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08-11-2009, 08:00 PM	#750
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08-11-2009, 08:35 PM	#751
RichieST 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 12,465 Rep Power: 20	frozen white looks cool __________________

08-11-2009, 09:35 PM	#752
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09-11-2009, 01:29 AM	#753
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09-11-2009, 01:41 AM	#754
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09-11-2009, 07:30 AM	#755
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09-11-2009, 09:38 AM	#757
PAUL S Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2005 Location: sunny wales Posts: 2,159 Rep Power: 9	tvr candy apple red, its a lovely colour in the light. same as this mosler http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1 Last edited by PAUL S; 09-11-2009 at 09:40 AM.

09-11-2009, 09:53 AM	#759
Twellsie PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nuneaton Posts: 7,197 Rep Power: 14	i would be tempted to go with a dark grey, something like Mercedes Tenorite grey, looks awesome in the sunlight kinda like this __________________ Last edited by Twellsie; 09-11-2009 at 10:19 AM.

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