Escort mk3 st170, gsxr1000 bodies. - Page 5

dalsy70 · 22-11-2008, 11:58 PM

lookin good mate

need to pic your brains about your water pump, and alternator bracket set up, Im fitting a ST engine into my car very soon

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ShandzS1 · 23-11-2008, 11:47 AM

Any time, its hard to explain over txt what i did, alot of people have asked how i did it. I`ve found a pic of the belt set-up, i used a mk5 escort alt bracket spaced away from the block, and a cut-out for the wayer pump outlet....

dalsy70 · 24-11-2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShandzS1

Any time, its hard to explain over txt what i did, alot of people have asked how i did it. I`ve found a pic of the belt set-up, i used a mk5 escort alt bracket spaced away from the block, and a cut-out for the wayer pump outlet....

cheers for that Shandz, gives me a wee idea how to set mine up

ShandzS1 · 24-11-2008, 08:52 PM

So what set-up u going for with urs?

ShandzS1 · 27-11-2008, 05:28 PM

I`ve been thinking about more power, so spoke to Simon, and just looking at collecting parts for a turbo conversion!! And will be knocking on the door of 300bhp.
It was just a quick conversation and we came up with this.

CR- Simon knows
GT25- not decided on spec yet
FRS exhaust manifold
Sitech racing inlet
FMIC

Also not realy sure about the vvt, to use it aswel or blank it off....
Would be interesting to see what its like with vvt+turbo!

crazycage · 27-11-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShandzS1

I`ve been thinking about more power, so spoke to Simon, and just looking at collecting parts for a turbo conversion!! And will be knocking on the door of 300bhp.
It was just a quick conversation and we came up with this.

CR- Simon knows
GT25- not decided on spec yet
FRS exhaust manifold
Sitech racing inlet
FMIC

Also not realy sure about the vvt, to use it aswel or blank it off....
Would be interesting to see what its like with vvt+turbo!

keep the vvt i really don't know why everyone says bin it off .i still run it and it give the best of both worlds ie use it to bring the turbo in early and again at the top end and you will still be making power on the rev limit !!well i am and that's 7800k

ShandzS1 · 27-11-2008, 08:14 PM

Yeah heard alot of people blanking it off when turbo`n the st head. Think i`ll keep it!
Whats the spec of ur engine etc?
And any pics?

crazycage · 27-11-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ShandzS1

Yeah heard alot of people blanking it off when turbo`n the st head. Think i`ll keep it!
Whats the spec of ur engine etc?
And any pics?

its just a high comp st engine steel rods forged pistons custom manifolds ect ect but in a fezz turb,theres a wee pic in my sig.

ShandzS1 · 27-11-2008, 08:56 PM

What CR, turbo, managment u running?
Any bhp figures?

sas · 28-11-2008, 12:57 PM

Even if you dont run VVT you dont have to blank it off, just leave it on, oil pressure keeps it closed and it runs as normal.

Jackass1983 · 28-11-2008, 01:51 PM

that is not right!
I you leave the vvt only disconnected, the cam goes into the following high tourqe position!
The engine runs like this, it runs realy nice. but it dosnt have much power.
the engine does have no valve ??overcuting?? (i just know the german word, thats the translation!) when the vvt is disabled and not manualy seted!

Cheers Mark ( www.ST2000.de )

crazycage · 28-11-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ShandzS1

What CR, turbo, managment u running?
Any bhp figures?

near standard cr,roller bearing turbo ,gotech and well over 300bhp

Zetec_mk4_XR3i · 28-11-2008, 11:13 PM

lookin great mate, bound to go well and sound awesome

my good mate bought your old zetec and it now powers his rs1600i

ShandzS1 · 29-11-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycage

near standard cr,roller bearing turbo ,gotech and well over 300bhp

What bhp/boost would standard internals take? what manifold+turbo-gt25-28?

ShandzS1 · 29-11-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zetec_mk4_XR3i

lookin great mate, bound to go well and sound awesome

my good mate bought your old zetec and it now powers his rs1600i

Yeah bodies sound good when on full chat!

U mean Neil? heard it spun a big end shell, and he`s got another one in now and looking to fit bike carbs....

Ade · 29-11-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycage

near standard cr,roller bearing turbo ,gotech and well over 300bhp

I want to know what clutch?!

crazycage · 29-11-2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShandzS1

What bhp/boost would standard internals take? what manifold+turbo-gt25-28?

im not on standard internals but a lot of people say they are good for 300hp but how Manny of them have proof of that!
bhp don't want to say till i go back on the dyno in January, boost 20psi all the way to the limiter, custom inlet and custom exhaust manifold, and turbo is a custom spec-ed gt28.

crazycage · 29-11-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ade

I want to know what clutch?!

helix

patalrob · 29-11-2008, 06:38 PM

Nice project you have going here!

With a stock internal ST170 your hp goal is good for 350hp.

I have seen some stock internals st170's up in the 370-380hp that is pushing it though.

ShandzS1 · 30-11-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patalrob

Nice project you have going here!

With a stock internal ST170 your hp goal is good for 350hp.

I have seen some stock internals st170's up in the 370-380hp that is pushing it though.

Impressive!! How did they lower the CR?

patalrob · 30-11-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ShandzS1

Impressive!! How did they lower the CR?

Compression Ratio?

I don't think that they did any.

You can get ahold of a guy over on focusfanatics bigfonsz is his name his is in the 390hp mark on the stock internales.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=179516

ShandzS1 · 02-12-2008, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patalrob

Compression Ratio?

I don't think that they did any.

You can get ahold of a guy over on focusfanatics bigfonsz is his name his is in the 390hp mark on the stock internales.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=179516

If its on standard rods n pistons, very impressive!!

patalrob · 02-12-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ShandzS1

If its on standard rods n pistons, very impressive!!

Yeah he's running on the standard rods and pistons.

I believe he had his tuner turn up the boost and ran a higher octane for this dyno run.

But I think he had 2 tunes done, the 390hp one is his track tune and his daily drive around tune is at 330-340hp.

pa_sjo · 02-12-2008, 09:32 AM

Re-writing the laws of physics

Zetec_mk4_XR3i · 02-12-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShandzS1

Yeah bodies sound good when on full chat!

U mean Neil? heard it spun a big end shell, and he`s got another one in now and looking to fit bike carbs....

aye thats right, was going well till then though lol - he got an 1800 from a mondeo that had only covered 25k so its going well again

ShandzS1 · 02-12-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo

Re-writing the laws of physics

Ur not joking there!! Will drop the CR with one of simons headgaskets, and go for around 300bhp....

ShandzS1 · 02-12-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patalrob

Yeah he's running on the standard rods and pistons.

I believe he had his tuner turn up the boost and ran a higher octane for this dyno run.

But I think he had 2 tunes done, the 390hp one is his track tune and his daily drive around tune is at 330-340hp.

Cant belive thats on std rods and pistons!

So what boost is he running? 12psi.....? And was the compression ratio altered?

patalrob · 02-12-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ShandzS1

Cant belive thats on std rods and pistons!

So what boost is he running? 12psi.....? And was the compression ratio altered?

So I may have lied

Sorry...

After talking to my parts guy today he said that this guy does have his lower end built. I thought for sure when reading his thread that he only had a boost-a-pump, CFM IM and 60lb injectors

Boost for his 330hp is at 17 lbs.

Boost for his 380-390hp is at 20lbs.

ShandzS1 · 09-12-2008, 12:07 AM

Thought that lol

dalsy70 · 17-12-2008, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShandzS1

So what set-up u going for with urs?

Neil just noticed the reply

Im going ST170 engine using the VVT at the moment, with Delorto 45's and weber Alpha 3D management

Once the cars built up and running again, Ill then use it for a couple of events to check the new suspension and brakes are all set up OK, before going for new cams and verniers , and maybe a wee update to the management, Ill wait and see

Ill put some pics of the engine all built up for you to see tomorrow, just finished it tonite, with my take on the water pump solution

fezzajsy · 17-12-2008, 03:33 PM

looking good

dalsy70 · 20-12-2008, 05:25 PM

Heres mine

just made a bracket , and shaft to mount the idling pulley, just need to go to the local autoparts to get the right sized belt also modified the alternator bracket and engine mount

andy escos · 20-12-2008, 05:55 PM

nice conversion there m8 must rev really well ,now get an mot and use it 4 now as is then when you get used to it up grade l8r cheers
Andy

ShandzS1 · 23-12-2008, 10:24 PM

Yeah looks ok, longs the water pump spins anti-clockwise....

ShandzS1 · 13-01-2009, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalsy70

Heres mine

just made a bracket , and shaft to mount the idling pulley, just need to go to the local autoparts to get the right sized belt also modified the alternator bracket and engine mount

What exhaust manifold u using?

dalsy70 · 17-01-2009, 01:54 AM

its one of these tubular type manifolds , originally for a Focus, but modified to fit my car

ShandzS1 · 19-01-2009, 11:50 PM

Why not just use the standard manifold?

You should just bolt a turbo to the focus manifold, looks like its askin for one lol

Mixja · 20-01-2009, 12:21 AM

splendid work...

ShandzS1 · 16-02-2009, 10:53 PM

So Dalsy, whens the next RSOC track day a k-hill?

neil117 · 17-02-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ShandzS1

So Dalsy, whens the next RSOC track day a k-hill?

last year was members only mate

23-11-2008, 11:47 AM	#162
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	Any time, its hard to explain over txt what i did, alot of people have asked how i did it. I`ve found a pic of the belt set-up, i used a mk5 escort alt bracket spaced away from the block, and a cut-out for the wayer pump outlet.... __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

24-11-2008, 08:52 PM	#164
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	So what set-up u going for with urs? __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

27-11-2008, 05:28 PM	#165
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	I`ve been thinking about more power, so spoke to Simon, and just looking at collecting parts for a turbo conversion!! And will be knocking on the door of 300bhp. It was just a quick conversation and we came up with this. CR- Simon knows GT25- not decided on spec yet FRS exhaust manifold Sitech racing inlet FMIC Also not realy sure about the vvt, to use it aswel or blank it off.... Would be interesting to see what its like with vvt+turbo! __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk Last edited by ShandzS1; 27-11-2008 at 05:35 PM.

27-11-2008, 08:14 PM	#167
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	Yeah heard alot of people blanking it off when turbo`n the st head. Think i`ll keep it! Whats the spec of ur engine etc? And any pics? __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

27-11-2008, 08:56 PM	#169
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	What CR, turbo, managment u running? Any bhp figures? __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

28-11-2008, 12:57 PM	#170
sas should be good! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: fife Posts: 1,152 Rep Power: 7	Even if you dont run VVT you dont have to blank it off, just leave it on, oil pressure keeps it closed and it runs as normal. __________________ My new project - http://passionford.com/forum/restora...bs-so-far.html

28-11-2008, 01:51 PM	#171
Jackass1983 Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! 2000 Ford Fiesta My Garage Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 93 Rep Power: 6	that is not right! I you leave the vvt only disconnected, the cam goes into the following high tourqe position! The engine runs like this, it runs realy nice. but it dosnt have much power. the engine does have no valve ??overcuting?? (i just know the german word, thats the translation!) when the vvt is disabled and not manualy seted! Cheers Mark ( www.ST2000.de ) Last edited by Jackass1983; 28-11-2008 at 01:58 PM.

28-11-2008, 11:13 PM	#173
Zetec_mk4_XR3i Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sunny Dunfermline, Fife Posts: 2,397 Rep Power: 11	lookin great mate, bound to go well and sound awesome my good mate bought your old zetec and it now powers his rs1600i __________________ my mk4 Escort Bonus, ST170 + throttle bodies in OAP gold 193 bhp & 13.7 1/4 mile at 102mph http://passionford.com/forum/picture...16v-bonus.html

29-11-2008, 06:38 PM	#179
patalrob In Training Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.S. MN Posts: 206 Rep Power: 4	Nice project you have going here! With a stock internal ST170 your hp goal is good for 350hp. I have seen some stock internals st170's up in the 370-380hp that is pushing it though. Last edited by patalrob; 29-11-2008 at 06:42 PM.

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pa_sjo Colossal Pervert Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 3,689 Rep Power: 12	Re-writing the laws of physics __________________ Ban #1: 23/09/08-25/09/08 - Posting a photo of the Gestapo.

09-12-2008, 12:07 AM	#189
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	Thought that lol __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

17-12-2008, 03:33 PM	#191
fezzajsy 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (9) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: jeRSey..isles Posts: 12,475 Rep Power: 20	looking good __________________ http://passionford.com/forum/restora...y-tidy-up.html

20-12-2008, 05:25 PM	#192
dalsy70 Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 263 Rep Power: 6	Heres mine just made a bracket , and shaft to mount the idling pulley, just need to go to the local autoparts to get the right sized belt also modified the alternator bracket and engine mount __________________

20-12-2008, 05:55 PM	#193
andy escos Capt Chaos Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunny Devon Posts: 5,237 Rep Power: 9	nice conversion there m8 must rev really well ,now get an mot and use it 4 now as is then when you get used to it up grade l8r cheers Andy __________________ 500+BHP 4X4 ZAKSPEED ESCORT GROUP 5 FULL RESTO, SOON TO LOOK LIKE THIS,, TAKE A LOOK AT MY GROUP 5 ZAKSPEED ESCORT REPLICA RESTORATION Clicky

23-12-2008, 10:24 PM	#194
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	Yeah looks ok, longs the water pump spins anti-clockwise.... __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

17-01-2009, 01:54 AM	#196
dalsy70 Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 263 Rep Power: 6	its one of these tubular type manifolds , originally for a Focus, but modified to fit my car __________________

19-01-2009, 11:50 PM	#197
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	Why not just use the standard manifold? You should just bolt a turbo to the focus manifold, looks like its askin for one lol __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

20-01-2009, 12:21 AM	#198
Mixja 420 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,303 Rep Power: 7	splendid work... __________________ Well, soon anyways... Click me sig to see how its going... _______________________________________ Only gone n started the series 1 aint i... Click the banana to see what's happenin...

16-02-2009, 10:53 PM	#199
ShandzS1 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 894 Rep Power: 6	So Dalsy, whens the next RSOC track day a k-hill? __________________ CheeRS Neil Escort s1 rs-turbo.....Sadly now for sale! www.sitechracing.co.uk

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