Escort MK5, Area-Six 2.0 Blacktop Zetec Turbo, Toyo R1R's and RS500 Splitter *Page .6

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Car is now down at Grove Garage for it final full boost map. If all is well it will be back in time for central day next week I Snaped some photos last weekend you can find them over in the Pictures & video Forum .

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[©hatter Box]

update time i think

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Car is back from mapping. It’s a different car on Pectel T2. Feels so nice to drive over my old 2.1 Ze-vh. Zetec is the way to go people…
So happy to have it finally running and setup after starting the 2.0 Zetec conversion two years ago.

Only one problem is my clutch now slips. Lucky all the full boost mapping was done before it let go.
Need to upgrade to 240mm clutch.
Clutch upgrades look to be a bit of a minefield. Focus RS cover fits for some people but others have had problems.

[GaryHurn]

good news and bad news mate.....

glad the car is running as expected, what boost pressure are you running?????
have you got a t34 on it???

Gary

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Its running a T34.63. I havent had a chance to look at the boost level. I think its 1.3 bar. Trust me your looking at the road when you use the go peddle lol.

[GaryHurn]

Originally Posted by Ollie MK5 Turbo

Its running a T34.63. I havent had a chance to look at the boost level. I think its 1.3 bar. Trust me your looking at the road when you use the go peddle lol.

i have a t34 0.63 on my nova turbo running 1.8bar i know what you mean :P

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Update time,

Last weekend I fitted my new 240mm flywheel and Foucs RS ZF Sachs High Performance Cluch Kit .
I was using a 220mm flywheel from a EFI CVH and a AP 220mm four paddle.

All ready to be taken apart. lol



Gearbox out


Lots of parts removed.


Old 220mm CVH flywheel


New 240 Zetec flywheel


Old AP four paddle and cover


New Foucs RS ZF Sachs clutch and cover



Finally all bolted to the flywheel.


Cant use the AP kit from the Focus RS as the clutch cover will not fit inside the gearbox bell housing. Good news is the Focus RS ZF Sachs clutch cover fits fine. So anyone with a zetec needing a clutch to fit in an RS 2000 MTX75 gearbox this is the one to use.

After a blast to the surrey rs meet last night i can say this clutch can take the power

[rs_traynor]

[Max M4X WW]

Ooooooh didn't realise it wasn't another AP!

[tezmanian devil]

Where did you get the clutch from dude? Do you have a link to a site atall?

Cars looking well, what power is it running?

[GaryHurn]

great car this

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Originally Posted by tezmanian devil

Where did you get the clutch from dude? Do you have a link to a site atall?

Cars looking well, what power is it running?

I got the clutch from a bloke selling it on the RS owners club.

You can get them from this url.

http://www.sachsperformance.com/EU/s...s/rs/index.htm

You may want to try just getting the Clutch Cover and see if you can use your AP clutch disk. As don't you all ready have the AP setup?

Car is running about 350bhp.

[tezmanian devil]

Sweet as, bet it goes pretty well then lol!
Yeh iv got the ap focus rs jobby, had to shave out my box and the clutch to make it fit, but im still not 100% happy with it...
cheers for the link, il see what they can sort out

[massivewangers]

Any details on here on engine spec Ollie? You at FF on Sunday? Be nice to see it and find some details out

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

if I go tomorrow I will be on the fiesta turbo stand

[mikemcc03]

hi im looking at doing this to my mk6rs2000 4x4 an im just wondering what engine mount you used and the engine ive looked at had the starter on the back of the engine was this the same for for you an if so how did you overcome it for starter on the front of the engine? an are you using powersteering? alot of questions i know but your build looks brilliant an would i would love to have some advice off you. thanks

[MK5RS2K]

luv this car but how did u get on with the starter at the front?iv been told that the dwnpipe frm the turbo makes this impossible?

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Originally Posted by mikemcc03

hi im looking at doing this to my mk6rs2000 4x4 an im just wondering what engine mount you used and the engine ive looked at had the starter on the back of the engine was this the same for for you an if so how did you overcome it for starter on the front of the engine? an are you using powersteering? alot of questions i know but your build looks brilliant an would i would love to have some advice off you. thanks

Hi, You want to use the engine mount from the MK5/6 escort that had the Zetec engine and MTX75 gearbox.

Below is the Engine mounts from a Zetec MK5/6 left is with MTX75 gearbox and right is IB5 Gearbox.


I didn't run PAS at the start but I have now converted to PAS.

Originally Posted by MK5RS2K

luv this car but how did u get on with the starter at the front?iv been told that the dwnpipe frm the turbo makes this impossible?

Yes you can run a front or back starter, Its down to the gearbox you use as that's what it bolt onto. With the blacktop engine you need to cut some of the webbing of the sump to make room for the starter.

[massivewangers]

Originally Posted by Ollie MK5 Turbo

Hi, You want to use the engine mount from the MK5/6 escort that had the Zetec engine and MTX75 gearbox.

Below is the Engine mounts from a Zetec MK5/6 left is with MTX75 gearbox and right is IB5 Gearbox.


I didn't run PAS at the start but I have now converted to PAS.


Yes you can run a front or back starter, Its down to the gearbox you use as that's what it bolt onto. With the blacktop engine you need to cut some of the webbing of the sump to make room for the starter.

What sump you running Ollie? What box also?

[tezmanian devil]

mtx-75 box and standard blacktop sump iirc, pretty sure i'v already asked him that earlier on in the thread lol

[massivewangers]

Yeah but there's quite a few different MTX boxes

If it's an Escort one (RS/TDI), I'd be interested to see if the lower box bolts line up with the black top sump bolt holes.

[Zuko]

so is this front wheel drive?

[Matt carter]

so is this front wheel drive?

TAXI

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Originally Posted by Zuko

so is this front wheel drive?

Last time I checked

[massivewangers]

Ollie, had a read of this last night. What was the reasoning behind using the metal throttle body instead of the normal black top one?

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Standard Focus 1.8/2.0 plastic throttle body (small butterfly)


Modified Mondeo 2.0 alloy throttle body (60mm butterfly fitted over 55mm standard)


Cant see that plastic focus throttle body flowing that well with positive boost so I fitted the Mondeo one.
The Focus RS had an Alloy throttle body just like the 55mm Mondeo but changed so it has that alloy elbow on top.

Also by using the metal throttle body I was able to use the throttle cable bracket from the later escort that had plastic inlet and alloy throttle body. Saving me from getting custom throttle cables, I now just use a standard later MK6 cable

And to add I didn't use my own gasket that you can see my making on page 4.
I used the one from the Focus RS, Is a 10mm thick plastic gaskit/adapter plate.

[massivewangers]

Fair enough, some sense in that. Where did you get the enlarged throttle butterfly plate from, or was it custom made?

Had planned on using a 130PS inlet on my own engine, but I'm leaning towards a Focus one cos of the end-fed injectors!

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Small update,

Got some new boots
Toyo Proxes R1R in 205/45/16






Not the best photos but you get the idea

[Max M4X WW]

Saw these on display at Goodwood some when on a Toyo stand.

Somewhere between T1R and R888? Will be interested to see what they are like!

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Originally Posted by Max M4X WW

Saw these on display at Goodwood some when on a Toyo stand.

Somewhere between T1R and R888? Will be interested to see what they are like!

Look to be a good replacement for my Goodyear Eagle F1's.
Rubber is the same compound as the R888.

Ok, Just got back from picking my bumper up from the body shop. Its now fitted with an RS 500 Splitter .

Was going to wait for the daylight for some better photos but I'm over the moon with how good it looks.

So here are some quick snaps in the dark with my phone.








Yes i know the photos are bad as its dark and yes the bumper is not fitted, its just resting on the bolts.

What do you all think

[massivewangers]

Been crying out for a splitter mate. Look forward to the daylight pics with it all fitted up properly.

Incidentally, answer my question about the throttle from above

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Id go for the plastic type manifold just for ease of running top feed injectors.
I got the throttle from ebay I think. Its only 5mm bigger than the standard Mondeo type so if your thinking of doing this conversion you will be fine with the 55mm std.

[massivewangers]

Yeah I've come to that conclusion. I did have the 130PS manifold but I've sold it now. Will pick up a Focus one and use that. Got a 2.0 Mondeo TB about so that can be fitted I'm sure.

Still need an engine mind

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Got some better photos that I snapped before going to work this morning.











If its not raining this weekend I will finish of some little jobs and get the bumper bolted up and the car back down on all four wheel.

Will be good to see what it looks like when the car is on the ground.

[COCHYN]

Neat touch, now change those horrible wheels for some proper Escos one's

[massivewangers]

I think it needs something a bit more aggressive myself. Some 17" Comps or something would look good methinks. Just something a bit more angular really!

[s23rta]

great read, i will be refering to this for help on my blacktop turbo

[Ollie MK5 Turbo]

Don't really want 17"s and i think the ET25 Cosworth wheels just look silly sticking out without the arches. I may change later but i like the standard Ford look.

Let me know if you need any info s23rta, We need more fast MK5/6 Escorts .

Ok gave the car a wash this weekend so here are some better photos of the splitter.








What do you think?

[Max M4X WW]

Mini Cossie is all I keep thinking when I look at it!!

[GaryHurn]

looks good dude

what power is it now?