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Old 11-03-2009, 04:39 PM
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I didnt know you were going 4 wheel drive too.Nice one mate.
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Originally Posted by kitchy
keep up the good work mate, might need another RS2000 inlet machining as i sold my other 2.3 before i finished it and now have another
Sorry mate but I quit today after 24 years !

Should be able to get my old firm to do it if they can find the program, If you definatly want one doing let me know and I can ask for you.


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Old 11-03-2009, 05:45 PM
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great project mate some really good out the box thinking &top machining should be great when done .
Old 11-03-2009, 07:14 PM
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Genuinely cool stuff, and really cool to see some fresh thinking!! Good luck finishing the project
Old 11-03-2009, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by V8 EsCos
Bit of an update

I've been stuck on a four day week because work is not good and have spent a few days machining sump adaptor in the spare time.
Suprisingly it was too big to fit on our Mazak machining centre and was easier to do on the little bridgeport cnc.
No Cad Cam involved just done the hard way

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I'm saving the lump from the middle to make other parts from

Sump adaptor has now been turned over to machine the other side including clearance for 2.9 starter motor.





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Plenty more machining and a fair bit of welding to do but it is starting to take shape

Work is still really quiet and I've got the offer of a slightly better paying more secure job that would not allow any more work on the side, I like it where I am but a 4 day week keeps me skint (real tears of indecision)

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Old 11-03-2009, 07:41 PM
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its looking the dogs danglies there mate crack on
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Did this ever happen?
Old 19-01-2010, 07:22 PM
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Not yet
New job that pays less than the one I had and too much DIY have put it on the back burner.
With luck I will make a start again in the spring !

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Old 19-01-2010, 08:33 PM
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looking good mark ,

whats the final spec of the motor going to be ?


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Old 20-01-2010, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
looking good mark ,

whats the final spec of the motor going to be ?


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I've got a roller cam block and it would be nice to have a hot roller cam as long as my heads can take it.
chrome molly push rods.
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1 5/8 " headers
Distributor-less ignition with coil packs.
Probably Emerald management unless I'm skint then it might be MS.

Very tempting to go for more power but I don't have the cash for uprated gearboxes.

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Old 11-09-2010, 11:14 PM
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Hi
I wish to start a similar project on my Sierra Sapphire but keep it RWD not 4WD.
Can i use the T5 Cossie 2WD G`Box with a 302 EFI from a Mustang?
Will the G`box fit or will i need to do an adaptor plate ?
Or is there a company that produces bellhousings ?
Thanks
Old 12-09-2010, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BON_300
Hi
I wish to start a similar project on my Sierra Sapphire but keep it RWD not 4WD.
Can i use the T5 Cossie 2WD G`Box with a 302 EFI from a Mustang?
Will the G`box fit or will i need to do an adaptor plate ?
Or is there a company that produces bellhousings ?
Thanks
I've sold the EsCos on and am now doing a V8 2WD Sierra.

These people sell the bellhousing you will need to fit the cossie T5 to a 302.

http://www.realsteel.co.uk/

I have modified a Cosworth cross member to take early mustang engine mounts

Pic of it half way done

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Engine mocked up

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cross member just about finished

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T56 mounted

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Old 12-09-2010, 10:13 AM
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That's a lovely looking cross member Mark


Why did you bin the escos mate?
Old 12-09-2010, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by miller3
That's a lovely looking cross member Mark


Why did you bin the escos mate?
Credit crunch

I don't earn as much money now due to job change, so decided to sell up and do something cheaper and simpler.

5 door 6 speed V8 Sierra sleeper should be fun

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Especially with the latest addition to my goody pile

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Brand new stroker crank gives an extra 400cc, now going to be 5431cc

Forged steel rods and forged pistons on order.

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:11 PM
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I got a brand new T56 from a guy on Ebay

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Wrong bellhousing for my engine though and it is over $500 for the correct ali one to suit my engine

Plan B was to buy a TKO 600 bellhousing for my engineand modify it to fit the T56, pic shows how much longer it is.

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Out with the precision marking guage

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After a session with an angle grinder and stone cutting disc it's a bit nearer the length I need.

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I skimmed it flat on a mill and had a bit of 1/2" ali welded to it, re-skimmed it and borrowed the CNC machining centre where I used to work.

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Only problem is the clutch release arm cut outs do not match on the box and bellhousing and I will probably have to find a centre push release bearing to suit.

One piece prop is also too short to use and I will have to get a custom two piece cossie T56 hybrid made.

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:27 PM
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give mark at mk motorsport a shout mate , tell him beef put you onto him ,

hes got a center push kit setup hes making , im sure he can sort sumthing for you bud


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Old 12-09-2010, 08:18 PM
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Very smart i like the sleep idea, the sierra looks in good condition aswell.

How much work would be involved in making a standard Cosworth T5 bell housing fit onto a T56 box?
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Originally Posted by Nash
Very smart i like the sleep idea, the sierra looks in good condition aswell.

How much work would be involved in making a standard Cosworth T5 bell housing fit onto a T56 box?
Danny @ Enhanced Performance has fitted a T56 to a Cossie, might be worth dropping him a PM

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Old 13-09-2010, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
give mark at mk motorsport a shout mate , tell him beef put you onto him ,

hes got a center push kit setup hes making , im sure he can sort sumthing for you bud


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Cheers
I'll ask to see if he can do one

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Old 19-09-2010, 08:35 AM
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cool project mate like the sleeper style, with V8.

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Old 19-09-2010, 04:51 PM
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I trial fitted the ARB and clearance on the bell housing is tight..

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How much does the ARB move ?

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Old 19-09-2010, 05:38 PM
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amazing im ust starting collage, learning cnc operation, just started drawing in solidworks 2010. but that self tought. going to be learning to draw in alphacam and auto cad i belive,

g code sucks! amazing work tho
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Originally Posted by bigboot5
amazing im ust starting collage, learning cnc operation, just started drawing in solidworks 2010. but that self tought. going to be learning to draw in alphacam and auto cad i belive,

g code sucks! amazing work tho
All the CNC work was done using Heidenhain conversational programming with extensive use of parrametric (Q parrameters) for all the fancy bits.
CAD CAM is cheating

I did all the drawings using AutoCad in 2D but now tend to use Solidworks as I have it at work.

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Old 19-09-2010, 06:18 PM
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Mark, what version SW do you have?
Old 19-09-2010, 06:22 PM
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Ps, if you are having problems with the ARB clearence just ditch it and bolt on some compression struts instead. Far better control of those silly single mount point sierra bottom arms.
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Mark, what version SW do you have?
2010/2011 at work and a dodgy copy of 2008 at home some where.

Still learning though, I've only just begun to scratch the surface of what it can do I might try and convince work that I need to go on a course

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Old 19-09-2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Ps, if you are having problems with the ARB clearence just ditch it and bolt on some compression struts instead. Far better control of those silly single mount point sierra bottom arms.
I want it to be semi-comfy and from what I've read if you ditch the ARB higher spring rates are needed ??? Will probably take the lazy route and space the ARB down a bit if there is a problem.

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I have SW08 with all the FEA and fluid dynamics bits too. Like you, im learning as i go. I get alot of help from one of my mates who is a SW proffesional. We have designed a MOTO2 bike together on it. Just got to get round to making it now. lol

http://compbrake.co.uk/shop/product_...roducts_id=278

Comp struts. You could prob make them for Ł25 if you had the time.
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BBC2 now. Building a wellington bomber in 24hrs. Awesome!
Old 19-09-2010, 06:39 PM
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yer solid works is really good i have 2010 at home. im going to stick with alpha cam because it what we have at collage. im new to all this so its the learning thats funn
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Originally Posted by Garage19
BBC2 now. Building a wellington bomber in 24hrs. Awesome!
Sky plusing it now.

Do I need harder springs to run compression struts ? I really don't want to ruin the ride ... says the man with AVO coil overs.

If it's too bumpy I'll sell them and fit Konis.

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From past experience i've found avo coil overs always come far to hard sprung to begin with anyway. Mind you none of the sierras ive fitted them to have had a dirty great big yank v8 up front!

On my mates car we run comp struts, light springs and burtons do a kit for mounting another roll bar up front.
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Nice to see someone doing there own machining instead of paying someone else.

Nice work by the way.
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Looking good keep up the good work
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Originally Posted by Garage19
I have SW08 with all the FEA and fluid dynamics bits too. Like you, im learning as i go. I get alot of help from one of my mates who is a SW proffesional. We have designed a MOTO2 bike together on it. Just got to get round to making it now. lol

http://compbrake.co.uk/shop/product_...roducts_id=278

Comp struts. You could prob make them for Ł25 if you had the time.
Been playing with SolidWorks and the photo view software on a fictitious 302 header.

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Took me bloody ages

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Anti roll bar touches the bellhousing when the car is on its wheels
I will have to make up a couple of spacers to drop the ARB out of the way.
On the plus side the postman has been this week
Nice new shiney set of forged pistons
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A new set of these forged steel rods
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Shortened and reconditioned prop with new end to fit T56 gearbox.
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Looking at the prop angles the gearbox needs to come up a bit at the rear which will mean a bit more fettling of the transmission tunnel at a later date.
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Looking good Mark

Your old escort is nearly finished now.
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Originally Posted by paul16v
Looking good Mark

Your old escort is nearly finished now.
Good to hear

Get Wenny to update the thread on

http://www.escortrscosworth.com

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Tiny update.
I tried to cut corners by ordering a set of Flowtech headers from Real Steel

They were very badly made and the ports were up to 1/4" out of alignment with the ports in my Edelbrock heads so I sent them back.

I had these water jet cut form 10mm stainless

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I made up a tool to get 1 5/8" tube from round to square

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Initial mock up with no welding

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After I had a go at Tig welding the stubs in they bent like bananas
So I spent some time getting them straight in a vice and then skimmed them on a milling machine leaving an upstand around the ports to help get a good seal.

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These bits are from the US
The little triangle bits help to smooth the flow into the collectors.

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Because the clearance is so tight on the bolts I turned down some cap head screws on a lathe to help.




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I'm a real novice when it comes to Tig welding but Ill have to learn on the job.

New EFI intake showed up today as well 8-)

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