My moondust saph 4x4 update July 2011 (better PAS pipes!)

rog · 25-07-2006, 02:32 PM

Had this car since i was 21 years old (owned 7 years) doesn't seem like it, anyway after putting it off for a long time I decided to start pulling it to bits, the bodywork is excellent apart from a tiny spot of rust on the bootlid, but i have sourced a replacement as you can see in the pics.

Anyway it used to look like this

Then more of this kept happening and it was smoking 40 a day.......

So i decided to cram it in my massive garage and get on with the house for a while

Then i actually got 5 mins to start pulling bits off this week so here's how i've got on

The head is ready to come off bar draining the coolant system and taking off a couple of hoses, just need to get a hand to get it off which i'm trying to arrange at the moment. Did aim to get more photos as i went along but i had camera trouble but that's all sorted now. I've bought more bits for it than i can remember, i think I've lost half of them.......

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Twins · 25-07-2006, 03:22 PM

Good luck ,how far are you going with it

Munch · 25-07-2006, 04:03 PM

good luck & what twins said....?

rog · 25-07-2006, 04:36 PM

Don't know exactly yet, first time i've stripped a car like this down!
I was just going to do the front end basically, take the engine out, replace the suspension and brakes which I bought ages ago but haven't got round to fitting, then i want to replace the fuel lines etc, so i'll probably end up doing the back end as well.
Spec. wise i was hoping greys and a nice turbo, something a bit quicker than the usual stage 3 setup, but i plan to take my time so i can decide all that as i go on.

Lambchop · 25-07-2006, 10:03 PM

Aye aye rog
Good news that you've started working on her

I bet it gets out of hand and the spec/cost get higher than you guessed too

rstoughy · 26-07-2006, 02:32 PM

well done on making a start

Got quite a shock when i got the PM, thought you were still running it

rog · 26-07-2006, 02:37 PM

Hah I bet you did, it should have been off the road over a year ago...Lol
It was getting really bad, clunking and knocking from the front suspension and using a serious amount of oil so i decided enough was enough, and besides I couldn't get what i wanted for it if i sold it

Now it's in bits tho i'm still not sure what I want engine wise though

Plenty of time to figure that out though, this is going to be a long project i think......

Brian · 26-07-2006, 04:19 PM

Good luck with it mate

Brian

KSA-Cossie · 26-07-2006, 08:50 PM

Keep us posted m8.

rauri · 26-07-2006, 10:05 PM

im not going to say a word

glad youve got yer finger out m8

rog · 31-07-2006, 09:35 AM

Ok so i managed to get the head off........eventually due to this happening and having to spend about 4 hours trying to get this bloody bolt out.
It was rounded off so i had to get the drill out

Then after a lot of f**king about i got it off

If you look closely you can see minimal valve-piston contact but it's not that bad.

And here we have the head obviously, it's pretty manky so i'll pull it all apart and see what's what

Just got as far as getting the exhaust manifold off before the missus arrived home with a chinese takeaway, so that was that, as you can see i took the manifold off and it's cracked inside, there's about a 6 inch hailrline crack you can just see the start of it in this pic.

So that's it so far, long way to go yet.

rstoughy · 31-07-2006, 09:48 AM

Rog,

Getting there M8

The crack is just standard practice on the 4x4 manifold im affraid

rog · 31-07-2006, 09:53 AM

Cheers!
I did mean to get a hold of you at the show yesterday but i was only there for about half an hour, I'm supposed to be away offshore on wednesday so i'll try and give you a buzz before then.
I've heard of the manifolds cracking before but i didn't know it was that common, I Have a 2wd one that i was going to fit but i will probably stick with a 4wd item.

Munch · 31-07-2006, 10:58 AM

keep it up mate, good work

rog · 28-11-2006, 06:22 PM

Well here's an update, I have bought a few nice bits and pieces for the car, although i haven't actually fitted any of them yet...Lol. All i basically need now is a bare engine to be honest as I have purchased all the ancillary stuff i can think of to get it to the spec, i want. Anyway in the process of trying to get a new kitchen fitted and get christmas sorted out as i will be working away in west africa so i need to keep the mrs happy b4 i go. so after christmas i plan to probably buy a ready built unit off somone on here.

smitsturbo · 30-11-2006, 03:06 PM

[quote="rog"]

Anyway it used to look like this

[quote]

that sits well nice mate what you got on the back or is the boot full

very nice mate..keep the updates coming

NEIL A · 30-11-2006, 03:14 PM

So what spec engine are you going for ? Low comp on greys and a t35 or something more.

Black_RS · 30-11-2006, 04:20 PM

Sits really nice - bet the exhaust must drag the floor on maximum attack!

massivewangers · 30-11-2006, 04:37 PM

One of the nicest Sapphire's I've seen in ages. are they 18s? Sit's proper well on them. Is that a Rouse spoiler too?

rog · 01-12-2006, 10:45 AM

Hi, it a combination of boot full and eibach springs I think

.... forgotten what it looks like now as it's been in the garage for so long now.
It's a rouse spoiler on the back, and yes the exhust does tend to scrape a wee bit on full boost!

Neil, yeah something along those lines i think, do u know anyone selling???

KSA-Cossie · 01-12-2006, 12:33 PM

Was gonna ask if it was a rouse spoiler too.

rog · 04-12-2006, 06:20 PM

Here are some more updates, got the box out today with the help of a mate. Just need the hoist to get the block out and haypresto.

Dropping the box
My mate, he claims he does all the work, i just happened to be the one holding the camera so it looks like he's done it all.

Trasmission tunnel

Underside, just surface rust, everthing is solid, this is my mate hiding behind the axle stand.

Rs sid · 05-12-2006, 08:59 PM

Got to say mate that is a nice looking saph u have got there looking forward to see pic of when it is done.keep up the good work mate.

carlo · 05-12-2006, 09:31 PM

Yeah mate keep the good work up

Munch · 05-12-2006, 10:52 PM

about time we had an update.....

good work guys

rog · 06-12-2006, 03:15 PM

Cheers for the comments guys, got the engine out today so now i have to get my head around what to do first now i'm left with a pile of bits! Done more in the last 2 days than i have in the last 5months!

jason_nike · 06-12-2006, 05:07 PM

lots of work then.
Be worth it in the end, although the car isnt exactly a heap!!!!!!!!!

rog · 15-04-2007, 07:58 PM

After a few months I think it was time to get started again, just got a new kitchen fitted which is almost done, hopefully
be the end of this week. Anyway plan was to get going with the car as soon as this was all done and that's what I'm doing now,
money's in the bank, just got to fix it now.

Mrs was bored and wanted to lend a hand, was quite helpful actually...Lol

Anyway that's as far as it goes until i can get the valves out, and time was getting on, hopefully the updates will be more speedy from now on.

smitsturbo · 15-04-2007, 09:25 PM

moving along mate eh...whens the deadline or when do you hope to have it finished by rog?

keep at it mate

rauri · 15-04-2007, 10:30 PM

bout time you got stuck in again m8

Sticky. · 16-04-2007, 09:12 AM

rstoughy · 16-04-2007, 09:14 AM

PM replied to Rog

Good to see you getting back into it

rog · 19-04-2007, 12:49 PM

Cheers folks, especially paul for helping me out

Didn't go away today, so still at home pondering about ordering bits...

Twins · 19-04-2007, 03:55 PM

Be up and running in no time

rog · 12-06-2007, 02:34 PM

Small update for you lot, coming along slowly but surely now.
Went to check on the progress of the engine today, i was really impressed just by looking at it.

Before

And after, hard to believe it's the same.

I was down dropping off the head, which Mr. Rstoughy very kndly helped me out with, and also a set of wheels, now equipped with tyres as of this morning.
Head as good as new, didn't even need skimmed!

Should get the engine back in the next couple of weeks, would be sooner but I am busy and so is the guy doing the engine so i that suits us both, petty it can't be sooner though.

fezzajsy · 12-06-2007, 11:04 PM

looking very good

rstoughy · 12-06-2007, 11:04 PM

Glad to help out Rog

Would love to have done alot more for you but just too busy with other projects at the moment. Just finished in the extension 1/2 hr ago

Be good to see the old girl back on the road again

t_studdrst · 12-06-2007, 11:22 PM

your car is

Trev

Adz 131 · 13-06-2007, 06:09 AM

Well i cant believe how good that looks

Took long enough but at least it,s done now.

What you on about i do all the work you just take the pic's lazy git

Toughy nice job on the head chief!

rog · 13-06-2007, 02:14 PM

Tried them on for size yesterday, looking goooood!

25-07-2006, 03:22 PM	#2
Twins 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (14) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ESSEX Posts: 15,591 Rep Power: 23	Good luck ,how far are you going with it __________________ My carbon clad s2

25-07-2006, 04:03 PM	#3
Munch Mr. Sparkle! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wiltshire - swindon Posts: 12,687 Rep Power: 19	good luck & what twins said....? __________________ CHEERS, LEE Onslow Loves COD! Arguing on the internet is like racing in an impreza, even if you win, you're still a twat.

25-07-2006, 04:36 PM	#4
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Don't know exactly yet, first time i've stripped a car like this down! I was just going to do the front end basically, take the engine out, replace the suspension and brakes which I bought ages ago but haven't got round to fitting, then i want to replace the fuel lines etc, so i'll probably end up doing the back end as well. Spec. wise i was hoping greys and a nice turbo, something a bit quicker than the usual stage 3 setup, but i plan to take my time so i can decide all that as i go on. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

25-07-2006, 10:03 PM	#5
Lambchop PF Idiot Sniper Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Scotchland Posts: 24,075 Rep Power: 34	Aye aye rog Good news that you've started working on her I bet it gets out of hand and the spec/cost get higher than you guessed too __________________ Birds shouldn't be moderators ; )

26-07-2006, 02:32 PM	#6
rstoughy PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2004 Location: onshore at the moment Posts: 4,289 Rep Power: 12	well done on making a start Got quite a shock when i got the PM, thought you were still running it __________________ Paul. No its not toughy Its pronounced tooghy

26-07-2006, 02:37 PM	#7
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Hah I bet you did, it should have been off the road over a year ago...Lol It was getting really bad, clunking and knocking from the front suspension and using a serious amount of oil so i decided enough was enough, and besides I couldn't get what i wanted for it if i sold it Now it's in bits tho i'm still not sure what I want engine wise though Plenty of time to figure that out though, this is going to be a long project i think...... __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

26-07-2006, 04:19 PM	#8
Brian 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 10,261 Rep Power: 19	Good luck with it mate Brian __________________

26-07-2006, 08:50 PM	#9
KSA-Cossie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Shutting down jap crap Posts: 23,538 Rep Power: 31	Keep us posted m8. __________________ cheeRS kev R/B T38,siemens blacks,500 intercooler,MSD closed loop,wasted spark,18" MO's,362mm discs,AP 6 pots,ALS & LC. Motorsport Developments 01253 508400

26-07-2006, 10:05 PM	#10
rauri up in smoke........ Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: peterhead Posts: 3,425 Rep Power: 10	im not going to say a word glad youve got yer finger out m8 __________________ because it seemed like a good idea at the time............

31-07-2006, 09:35 AM	#11
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Ok so i managed to get the head off........eventually due to this happening and having to spend about 4 hours trying to get this bloody bolt out. It was rounded off so i had to get the drill out Then after a lot of f**king about i got it off If you look closely you can see minimal valve-piston contact but it's not that bad. And here we have the head obviously, it's pretty manky so i'll pull it all apart and see what's what Just got as far as getting the exhaust manifold off before the missus arrived home with a chinese takeaway, so that was that, as you can see i took the manifold off and it's cracked inside, there's about a 6 inch hailrline crack you can just see the start of it in this pic. So that's it so far, long way to go yet. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

31-07-2006, 09:48 AM	#12
rstoughy PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2004 Location: onshore at the moment Posts: 4,289 Rep Power: 12	Rog, Getting there M8 The crack is just standard practice on the 4x4 manifold im affraid __________________ Paul. No its not toughy Its pronounced tooghy

31-07-2006, 09:53 AM	#13
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Cheers! I did mean to get a hold of you at the show yesterday but i was only there for about half an hour, I'm supposed to be away offshore on wednesday so i'll try and give you a buzz before then. I've heard of the manifolds cracking before but i didn't know it was that common, I Have a 2wd one that i was going to fit but i will probably stick with a 4wd item. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

31-07-2006, 10:58 AM	#14
Munch Mr. Sparkle! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wiltshire - swindon Posts: 12,687 Rep Power: 19	keep it up mate, good work __________________ CHEERS, LEE Onslow Loves COD! Arguing on the internet is like racing in an impreza, even if you win, you're still a twat.

28-11-2006, 06:22 PM	#15
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Well here's an update, I have bought a few nice bits and pieces for the car, although i haven't actually fitted any of them yet...Lol. All i basically need now is a bare engine to be honest as I have purchased all the ancillary stuff i can think of to get it to the spec, i want. Anyway in the process of trying to get a new kitchen fitted and get christmas sorted out as i will be working away in west africa so i need to keep the mrs happy b4 i go. so after christmas i plan to probably buy a ready built unit off somone on here. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

30-11-2006, 03:06 PM	#16
smitsturbo PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: aberdeenshire Posts: 7,246 Rep Power: 14	Re: My project moondust saph 4x4 rebuild..updated 28/11/06 [quote="rog"] Anyway it used to look like this [quote] that sits well nice mate what you got on the back or is the boot full very nice mate..keep the updates coming __________________ www.sitechracing.co.uk

30-11-2006, 03:14 PM	#17
NEIL A PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (6) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: LEVEN , FIFE Posts: 4,758 Rep Power: 11	So what spec engine are you going for ? Low comp on greys and a t35 or something more. __________________

30-11-2006, 04:20 PM	#18
Black_RS Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 278 Rep Power: 0	Sits really nice - bet the exhaust must drag the floor on maximum attack!

30-11-2006, 04:37 PM	#19
massivewangers PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stafford Drives: Couple of Fords Posts: 3,705 Rep Power: 10	One of the nicest Sapphire's I've seen in ages. are they 18s? Sit's proper well on them. Is that a Rouse spoiler too? __________________ Q. What's the difference between a Saxo and a porcupine? A. The pricks are on the outside of a porcupine.

01-12-2006, 10:45 AM	#20
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Hi, it a combination of boot full and eibach springs I think .... forgotten what it looks like now as it's been in the garage for so long now. It's a rouse spoiler on the back, and yes the exhust does tend to scrape a wee bit on full boost! Neil, yeah something along those lines i think, do u know anyone selling??? __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

01-12-2006, 12:33 PM	#21
KSA-Cossie 20K+ Super Poster. Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Shutting down jap crap Posts: 23,538 Rep Power: 31	Was gonna ask if it was a rouse spoiler too. __________________ cheeRS kev R/B T38,siemens blacks,500 intercooler,MSD closed loop,wasted spark,18" MO's,362mm discs,AP 6 pots,ALS & LC. Motorsport Developments 01253 508400

04-12-2006, 06:20 PM	#22
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Here are some more updates, got the box out today with the help of a mate. Just need the hoist to get the block out and haypresto. Dropping the box My mate, he claims he does all the work, i just happened to be the one holding the camera so it looks like he's done it all. Trasmission tunnel Underside, just surface rust, everthing is solid, this is my mate hiding behind the axle stand. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

05-12-2006, 08:59 PM	#23
Rs sid I just love fords! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: norfolk Posts: 112 Rep Power: 6	Got to say mate that is a nice looking saph u have got there looking forward to see pic of when it is done.keep up the good work mate.

05-12-2006, 09:31 PM	#24
carlo 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ayrshire (the bronx) Posts: 16,047 Rep Power: 23	Yeah mate keep the good work up __________________ ps3 game tag carlo-ybe If you need cosworth parts contact mark 07548064979 www.mt-motorsport.com

05-12-2006, 10:52 PM	#25
Munch Mr. Sparkle! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wiltshire - swindon Posts: 12,687 Rep Power: 19	about time we had an update..... good work guys __________________ CHEERS, LEE Onslow Loves COD! Arguing on the internet is like racing in an impreza, even if you win, you're still a twat.

06-12-2006, 03:15 PM	#26
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Cheers for the comments guys, got the engine out today so now i have to get my head around what to do first now i'm left with a pile of bits! Done more in the last 2 days than i have in the last 5months! __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

06-12-2006, 05:07 PM	#27
jason_nike Advanced PassionFord User Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2,179 Rep Power: 10	lots of work then. Be worth it in the end, although the car isnt exactly a heap!!!!!!!!!

15-04-2007, 07:58 PM	#28
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	After a few months I think it was time to get started again, just got a new kitchen fitted which is almost done, hopefully be the end of this week. Anyway plan was to get going with the car as soon as this was all done and that's what I'm doing now, money's in the bank, just got to fix it now. Mrs was bored and wanted to lend a hand, was quite helpful actually...Lol Anyway that's as far as it goes until i can get the valves out, and time was getting on, hopefully the updates will be more speedy from now on. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

15-04-2007, 09:25 PM	#29
smitsturbo PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: aberdeenshire Posts: 7,246 Rep Power: 14	moving along mate eh...whens the deadline or when do you hope to have it finished by rog? keep at it mate __________________ www.sitechracing.co.uk

15-04-2007, 10:30 PM	#30
rauri up in smoke........ Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: peterhead Posts: 3,425 Rep Power: 10	bout time you got stuck in again m8 __________________ because it seemed like a good idea at the time............

16-04-2007, 09:12 AM	#31
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16-04-2007, 09:14 AM	#32
rstoughy PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (5) Join Date: May 2004 Location: onshore at the moment Posts: 4,289 Rep Power: 12	PM replied to Rog Good to see you getting back into it __________________ Paul. No its not toughy Its pronounced tooghy

19-04-2007, 12:49 PM	#33
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Cheers folks, especially paul for helping me out Didn't go away today, so still at home pondering about ordering bits... __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

19-04-2007, 03:55 PM	#34
Twins 15K+ Super Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (14) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ESSEX Posts: 15,591 Rep Power: 23	Be up and running in no time __________________ My carbon clad s2

12-06-2007, 02:34 PM	#35
rog PassionFord Post Whore!! 1993 Ford Sapphire cosworth My Garage Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 5,653 Rep Power: 14	Small update for you lot, coming along slowly but surely now. Went to check on the progress of the engine today, i was really impressed just by looking at it. Before And after, hard to believe it's the same. I was down dropping off the head, which Mr. Rstoughy very kndly helped me out with, and also a set of wheels, now equipped with tyres as of this morning. Head as good as new, didn't even need skimmed! Should get the engine back in the next couple of weeks, would be sooner but I am busy and so is the guy doing the engine so i that suits us both, petty it can't be sooner though. __________________ Late spec 4x4 Moondust Saph E39 M5 'Facelift' Individual spec. 08' White Mazda 3 Tamura

12-06-2007, 11:04 PM	#36
fezzajsy 10K+ Poster!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (9) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: jeRSey..isles Posts: 12,473 Rep Power: 20	looking very good __________________ http://passionford.com/forum/restora...y-tidy-up.html