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Old 16-06-2008, 02:28 PM   #41
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Remeber the Primera Cosworth? I think that was the ultimate street sleeper.

It didn't look standard, but purely because of the shitty naff alloys and crappy bonnet vent it looked like an average ex-taxi done up by some clueless middle aged guy with a Halfords gift voucher.
I certainly would never have expected it to be packing Esc Cos power!
That was a great one.

TBH my Chaser is more of a sleeper than half the cars here, as no fucker knows what it is, has no badges (Chasers never came with Toyota badges even as standard), and just looks like some stupid purple thing
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Only giveaway is the unmistakable skyline 6 pot roar and turbo

But yeah, most would probably think it's a lardy heap of crap!

I'll try and get a few pics of my mates mk3 polo GT. Looks like a pile of poo but at about 105bhp or so and it weighs next to nothing as stock and he has stripped it out as well means it is a beautiful little traffic light stormer! His G40 is a bit to bait to post as a sleeper although it is running 215bhp on a base map.
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That was a great one.

TBH my Chaser is more of a sleeper than half the cars here, as no fucker knows what it is, has no badges (Chasers never came with Toyota badges even as standard), and just looks like some stupid purple thing
lol, can imagine the chavs in McDonals now

Chav1 "yeah man, i just got tottally nailed in ma corsa down da bypass"

Chav2 "wow lurd, wot woz it dat nailed ya"

Chav1 "dunno man, was diz stupid purple thing"

Chav2 "must of been lyk a skyline, innit"
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Here was mine






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Not a true sleeper but 4wd mk2...

A lad off another site i use, 20vt, 4wd, going to be over 350bhp.



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that golf belongs to ste doesnt it?
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heres a few pics ive just found of my old bonus turbo..

when i bought it...







when i sold it..

grs cooler and twin 10" kenlowes peeking out...









and a arty shot of the arch...



made 151bhp at only 8psi before grs cooler and more boost
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I think Sleeper is a term that some passionford users have trouble with...

To me a sleeper is a Factory looking car (Not a SRI GTI etc just a base model) , No alloys, No exterior mods, No huge shiney exhausts etc

Just Something special under the bonnet!

We Had an old white rusty AstraVan with a LET 15" steels with r888's on... That WAS a sleeper!
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Heres my old 2.1 16v throttle boddied corsa that i shouldnt have sold now.

250bhp and 0-60mph in 4.9 seconds timed by redline mag.

In the pic where you see the dials the black line on the rev counter is where it pulled to.











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Fook, that revv'd then! steel bottom end i take it?
What box did it have, had a diff too i take it?
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I think the term sleeper is being slightly stretched by most of these cars

By most the above cars terms, a big power Cossie is a sleeper!

Id say in modded car terms, a sleeper is something that nobody expects to have the performance it has, not a Audi S4 or a modded XR2 with RS Turbo written on the rear side windows

Totally agree!!!

Jesus... how is a fucking Performance model from a company thats won LeMans 5 times in a row a sleeper?!?!?!?

and a badboy' bonnet chav up Xr2??? err....

The allegro will be a proper sleeper though! its a car that could catch you out 'sleeping' away from the lights... doesn't have to be a rocket, htey just have to be ALOT faster than they should be!
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I HONESTLY could not find a car that is LESS of a sleeper if I tried....
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no one expects mine to have a turbo in it, as they never did a mk5 turbo
excluding cossies which mine looks nothing like. thats the only reason i would say mine is a sleeper as too look at it just looks like a normal escort with some skirts on unless you looks close and see the cooler or if you know your cars the sound gives it away.
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no one expects mine to have a turbo in it, as they never did a mk5 turbo
excluding cossies which mine looks nothing like. thats the only reason i would say mine is a sleeper as too look at it just looks like a normal escort with some skirts on unless you looks close and see the cooler or if you know your cars the sound gives it away.
what power is yours running they did a 150bhp rs2000 so unless you got well over 200 then id say it wouldn't really supprise anyone.
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what power is yours running they did a 150bhp rs2000 so unless you got well over 200 then id say it wouldn't really supprise anyone.
very true , its about 190bhp. i am more on about it being a turbo not many people expect the dump sound from it they always look twice when they see it.
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so would mine be considered as a sleeper? it was a high spec model from new with a factory kit but not the alloys. it doesnt look to different from standard but the engine obviously is.
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Jesus... how is a fucking Performance model from a company thats won LeMans 5 times in a row a sleeper?!?!?!?

and a badboy' bonnet chav up Xr2??? err....

The allegro will be a proper sleeper though! its a car that could catch you out 'sleeping' away from the lights... doesn't have to be a rocket, htey just have to be ALOT faster than they should be!
Lee.... I assume you're not referring to my old XR2, which had factory looks.
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apart from a set of wheelsfrom the outside mines standard ???




heres another of mine





do they qualify ?????
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That Royal Nail cossie van defines sleeper. Also I would consider a sleeper to be the most unstriking, standard box car with a kick ass engine. E.g. something like a fiesta mk 4 1.2 or something thats is totally standard looks wise and has a turbo'd zetec lump in it. and a hidden tailpipe and still rolling on factory 15s or something.
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[quote=bailey1;3363537]apart from a set of wheelsfrom the outside mines standard ???


how can an rs turbo be classed as a sleeper? cossie engine or not?
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245bhp 1.3 A series Mini............ 310bhp with Nitrous



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wennys old mk3 was the best ford sleeper but iv seen an mg with a skyline motor in it and a transit with an xj220 jag motor
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i have to agree with fuzzy, no way is an rst a sleeper

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225bhp 20vturbo lupo gti



std lookin mr2, did 11sec @ york dragway

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[quote=Gooey;3363609]245bhp 1.3 A series Mini............ 310bhp with Nitrous



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how the foook do you get 245bhp out of an A series??? would it be turbo'd?

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Yeah its turbo'd, more about it can be found at www.miniwilliams.co.uk
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This was never intended to be a sleeper, it was always intended to end up having full on XR/RS looks but I've grown quite fond of the slightly modded 1.4L look.
It's given a few hot hatches a good run for their money, and left plenty modern rep mobiles for dead.

Afterwards there's been a few shocked "WTF's in that?!", and "is that turbo'd?"....
The little look of panic when I say 'no, it's not', and they think that their Type R was a total waste of money, before going on to tell them its a 2.0 16v is priceless....



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what a fuckin nobsack if your refering to my old xr2 from many many years a go as chav
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people REALLY do not get what a sleeper is on here...

a 2 seater mid engine sports car with TWIN CAM 16v TURBO on the side and drag tyres is not a fooking sleeper!!!!

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how the hell is a mini with wide arches and buckets a sleeper.. it looks awesome
A sierra saph with a rollcage I would question a little as well
likewise a MR2 would not shock me if it was quick as its a supposed to be a sports car

A sleeper is supposed to catch you sleeping with its performance.. not yell about it imho

My car is more of a sleeper than some of the things posted in this thread, yet I would never consider it a sleeper myself
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this belongs to a friend of mine, still a work in progress, but you get the idea, will have a CVH turbo in it, if he ever gets round to finishing the bloody thing



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a 2 seater mid engine sports car with TWIN CAM 16v TURBO on the side and drag tyres is not a fooking sleeper!!!!

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when it looks std and runs 11sec

has run 9.7 b4????????
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when it looks std and runs 11sec

has run 9.7 b4????????
But people expect it to be quick. So its not a sleeper. A 1.3 micra is as much of a sleeper as that MR2. People expect it to be slow and it is.

A sleeper has to be somethings thats surprising.

Take that MR2s engine, put in in an old shonky corolla and then you have a sleeper.
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half the cars in this thread AREN'T SLEEPERS!

this was a van i bought purely for the engine, its nothing hot, but it did surprise a few on the drive home and yes i do know its got alloys and turbo bonnet and bumper!





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There different levels of sleepers, the MR2 is a sleeper to some extent, as are many.
As people think "oh just a 150-200bhp MR2" then it blows a Ferrari in to the weeds.
So that IS a sleeper to some extent

But a 200bhp modified Mk5 Escort, a modified Audi S2, or a 200bhp XR2 with RS Turbo written in big writing on the side windows is NOT a sleeper AT ALL

But only a few on here are mega sleepers, ie utter shiteboxes that are well quick.
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