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Old 20-01-2011, 08:13 PM   #1
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Default Vauxhall vivaro / renault engine fault (still probs)

Hi got a prob with my mate vivaro, The eml came on yesterday and its lacking power and going in to limp mode, engine fault code is 1815 intake air temperture sensor / circuit, this is in the air flow meter so changed that and cleared the fault but still no change light comes back on after 30secs or as soon as you try and rev it over 2500 rpm, between 2000 rpm and 3000 rpm the van is holding back and and missing, clears and 3000 and revs till 4000 and holds there (not sure if it should rev more than that at stand astill or not)

I've checked and changed the fuel filter (there was some jelly in the bottom) and also took the EGR valve out and cleaned that.

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Still having probs see post #11
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i dont really have anything to do with vans at work but possibly boost pressure sensor problem,ill ask the van lads tomorow see what they recon mate unless you get it sorted before i reply
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theres a air pipe that goes to some sort of solenoid which IIRC goes top right'ish of the engine bay,

i done a gearbox on one years ago and must have disturbed it, it had me stumped for ages!

had similar symptoms to what you are describing
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Yes louie i'll get your van sorted for ya,

thanks or the info passionvauxhall deff be checking the boost solenoid and pipes to it tomorrow and will report back
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also check all the wiring around the top of the engine, around the air filter etc, i'm getting stacks of problems now especially on pre 04 models with the looms rubbing through or going britle in various places.
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Cheers everyone back on the road with a new turbo boost solenoid that link about was a great help, our new member louie84 is happy.
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Not that they're a common fault but I've changed 3 of them this week
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Not that they're a common fault but I've changed 3 of them this week

First one i've done i've changed plent of egr valves, air flow meters and gearboxs tho
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Still having problems with this van, holding back and surging also stops reving at 3800 now, any other idears, No fault codes injector wiring looks fine fuel filters not that old and looks ok,

Done a injector leak off test and not shown a bad injector .
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try another airflow meter i had this fault on a vw other day first airflow meter cured the no boost fault but gave erratic idling, the second one cured it completley
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Funny you say that as i've just come home with the air flow meter unplugged, its really slow picking up revs to start with bit seems a bit better higher up and no goes to 4000 rpm, The thing I find odd is theres no eml coming on with it unplugged I was waiting for the little bugger.
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This is what has really put me off buying one of these vans. Wanted to change the transit and looked into these, just full of problems.....I will stick with the tried and tested trannys i think
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the eml wont always come on with an air flow meter problem, look on the live data the airflow should be around 250-300 at idle and about 6-800 at 2k rpm if its not then its faulty
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the eml wont always come on with an air flow meter problem, look on the live data the airflow should be around 250-300 at idle and about 6-800 at 2k rpm if its not then its faulty
Thanks for that will check in the morning, I had a quick look through the live data at air coolant temps etc etc but wouldn't of known what the airflow should be without that.
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did u fit a non genuine air flow meter? had trouble with these in the past where they only work properly with a genuine part fitted!
also was there any metal particles at the bottom of the fuel filter housing?
this will indicate if your fuel pumps had it or not!
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the eml wont always come on with an air flow meter problem, look on the live data the airflow should be around 250-300 at idle and about 6-800 at 2k rpm if its not then its faulty
live data was showing 38 at idle, 81 at 2000rpm and 262 flat out 4000rpm ish
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did u fit a non genuine air flow meter? had trouble with these in the past where they only work properly with a genuine part fitted!
also was there any metal particles at the bottom of the fuel filter housing?
this will indicate if your fuel pumps had it or not!
Its still got the old air flow meter on it as I managed to return it for a refund as it wasnt making any difference last time, but it was a genuine one we tried.
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I'd try petrol and a match! Cured forever!

Try the airflow meter and if it's got an electric EGR valve then disconnect it and try it. Thats more common on the Bastards/Movanos though.
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Did you ever get this sorted ? Got a 55 plate Vivaro with similar problems - wont rev above 2500 rpm, starts and runs ok but no power. Changed EGR valve, boost solenoid and boost pressure sensor and tried it with a known good MAF sensor all made no difference. This happened without any warning van was ok one day then no power the next.
Had it on garage computer and only fault that came up was EGR which is brand new.
Just wondering if the turbo is seized or something as I heard a whistling noise just as I was loosing power ( whistling noise seems to have gone with the power, in that I haven't heard it since ) Any way to check the turbo without removing it, as it's a barstuard of a job by the looks (back of engine), the waste gate seems to be moving freely.

Any help greatly appreciated cheers

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Turbos arnt that bad to do on them tbh once the cats out the way your laughing really.take the intake pipe off the turbo see if theres any play in the shaft.
Also more common faults on these are injectors failing.
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Did you ever get this sorted ? Got a 55 plate Vivaro with similar problems - wont rev above 2500 rpm, starts and runs ok but no power. Changed EGR valve, boost solenoid and boost pressure sensor and tried it with a known good MAF sensor all made no difference. This happened without any warning van was ok one day then no power the next.
Had it on garage computer and only fault that came up was EGR which is brand new.
Just wondering if the turbo is seized or something as I heard a whistling noise just as I was loosing power ( whistling noise seems to have gone with the power, in that I haven't heard it since ) Any way to check the turbo without removing it, as it's a barstuard of a job by the looks (back of engine), the waste gate seems to be moving freely.

Any help greatly appreciated cheers
Check the boost hose (from intercooler to intake) seen a few of these worn through.
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Thanks a lot for the quick response lads, gonna have a good look round it tomorrow on ramps, will post any progress.
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Turbos arnt that bad to do on them tbh once the cats out the way your laughing really.take the intake pipe off the turbo see if theres any play in the shaft.
Also more common faults on these are injectors failing.
Thanks for that mate.
On the injectors, I would have thought dodgy injector/s would have caused poor starting and lumpy running at tick over and low revs though ?
Always something else to check I suppose, but would have to go to a garage for this as I haven't got the gear to do a leak or pressure test.
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There was a recall for engine wiring, cos of loom rubbing... Crocks of shit, mines always going wrong! Hope you get it sorted....
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There was a recall for engine wiring, cos of loom rubbing... Crocks of shit, mines always going wrong! Hope you get it sorted....
Cheers cossiestu, will have a look for any signs of wear/rubbing.
Yeah, I think you're right about the 'crocks of shit', mines already had the gearbox off to do the clutch cylinder - £500 quids worth, and two power steering pumps. I was going to get rid of it then this happened, so got to try to fix it, or sell it for a lot less money, which I can't really afford. Depends how much it's gonna cost to put right I suppose, Iv'e already spent around £200 trying to sort this latest episode.
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egr valve check that mine was doing same thing ,fit a genuine airflow meter ,and clean above valve ,mine been fine touch wood that way ,but spent 700 quid on other things and that with no labour as fix it meself gear box went last year. mine pulls round racking and shed load plumbing fittings tools ect id burn it if i could be arsed take the the fittings out
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Did you ever get this sorted ? Got a 55 plate Vivaro with similar problems - wont rev above 2500 rpm, starts and runs ok but no power. Changed EGR valve, boost solenoid and boost pressure sensor and tried it with a known good MAF sensor all made no difference. This happened without any warning van was ok one day then no power the next.
Had it on garage computer and only fault that came up was EGR which is brand new.
Just wondering if the turbo is seized or something as I heard a whistling noise just as I was loosing power ( whistling noise seems to have gone with the power, in that I haven't heard it since ) Any way to check the turbo without removing it, as it's a barstuard of a job by the looks (back of engine), the waste gate seems to be moving freely.

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did you try a airflow meter mine put up same code and said egr valve but was airflow meter
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did you try a airflow meter mine put up same code and said egr valve but was airflow meter
Yeah, I swapped mine with the one off my son's works van (same van which is running right) and it made no difference. Sorry I put MAF 'sensor' in my original post, should have been 'meter'. Thanks anyway dingla.
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egr valve check that mine was doing same thing ,fit a genuine airflow meter ,and clean above valve ,mine been fine touch wood that way ,but spent 700 quid on other things and that with no labour as fix it meself gear box went last year. mine pulls round racking and shed load plumbing fittings tools ect id burn it if i could be arsed take the the fittings out
Ha ha same here, I'm a plumber too and usually do me own motors, but this is driving me nuts.
I've put a brand new EGR valve on it and still the same.
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Cheers cossiestu, will have a look for any signs of wear/rubbing.
Yeah, I think you're right about the 'crocks of shit', mines already had the gearbox off to do the clutch cylinder - £500 quids worth, and two power steering pumps. I was going to get rid of it then this happened, so got to try to fix it, or sell it for a lot less money, which I can't really afford. Depends how much it's gonna cost to put right I suppose, Iv'e already spent around £200 trying to sort this latest episode.
Mines had a gearbox,pas pump,4x rear calipers,the o/s quarter glass keeps dropping into the door... I'm lucky though, if it fucks up, Sky pay it.... Give me a transit anyday! Good luck with it mate!
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Mines had a gearbox,pas pump,4x rear calipers,the o/s quarter glass keeps dropping into the door... I'm lucky though, if it fucks up, Sky pay it.... Give me a transit anyday! Good luck with it mate!
Thanks mate, I ran them 'smiley' DI Transits for years and had virtually no bother, well nowt I couldn't sort meself.
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engine loom at the front rubs through near the slam panel on the passanger side , im a vauxhall techy and hate these vans worst thing vauxhall ever did
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Iv'e had these with reving issues where they just fire up but will hardly rev until warm or not at all. The cure is an engine flush and a new oil and filter! The rings gum up and they can't build up enough compression to rev up! The flush dissolves the tar and shit around the rings and lets them do the job they're meant to be doing.

Might not be your problem but I have seen this a few times on these sacks of shit now.
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Well it looks like the turbo's Fd, quite a bit of 'side to side' play on the inlet side, so reckon it's shot, gonna strip it next weekend. This would explain the symptoms and although it's more money, it's nice to actually find something.
Can any of you guys recommend anywhere for a good replacement turbo or a rebuilder ?
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Well it looks like the turbo's Fd, quite a bit of 'side to side' play on the inlet side, so reckon it's shot, gonna strip it next weekend. This would explain the symptoms and although it's more money, it's nice to actually find something.
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Someone said that the turbo on these isn't too bad to do once the cats out of the way - BOLLOX - they are a pure bastard to do, simple as that, just getting the cat out of the way is a proper pain. If this is a 'not too bad' job, I'd hate to see a difficult one lol. (may be easier in a garage with all the gear and up on a lift, but not on a couple of 2ft ramps)
Anyway, finally got the old turbo off to find that the shaft had snapped clean in half no wonder there was no power - surprised it didn't make more noise when it packed up. Hopefully get a new one on next week and van should be up and running again - then I can sell the fukcing thing - what a pile of shite.

60,000 miles and up to now had to replace - turbo - complete clutch including master cylinder and slave cylinder - 2 x power steering pumps - brakes - EGR - etc etc and this van has been serviced regularly.

These are supposed to be a commercial vehicle - they are fukcing rubbish !!

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