Steve E

Very true, they drive great, however, mine hasn't worked much because of the breakdown intervals !
Shame, but this is what happens when you build a van with car parts, I certainly won't be buying another.

Anyone got a low milage 'smiley' Transit for sale ? 120,000 etc, infact I'll do you a straight swap for a 60,000 Vivaro - there ya go.

Steve E

Quick update for anyone having similar problems - New turbo fitted and van back to full power.
New turbo went on a lot easier than it came off, I suppose that was down to knowing where everything was and how to get at it etc.
If anyone else is looking for a turbo for a Vivaro 19cdti, go to Vauxhall, they do a service exchange turbo for £319 + vat = £380, not bad considering the cheapest I could find was around £350 with p+p on top.

So if you have a Vivaro that won't rev passed 2500rpm - check your turbo before you start changing bits - if I'd done this first I would have saved myself £200 because I changed the EGR valve, boost solenoid and boost pressure sensor - doh !
Oh and for £35 the garage computer diagnostics said it was the EGR valve - after I'd put a new one on ! So I wouldn't rely too much on computer diagnostics.

Qpr1975

Hi this is a problem

Qpr1975

Hi to solve the problem of the vivaro going into limp mode and feeling like its losing power or misfiring turbo kicking in late with some times the glow plug coming on !
This is a very common problem and is caused by air getting into the air filter box which is connected to the turbo pipe
Make sure the air filter box is fixed down properly some brackets which hold it down can brake making the box rattle and allowing air to get in
This will solve the problem 100 percent

mechanic28

iTrader: (5)

urm and urm never heard of that one before

Qpr1975

Yes it's very common and so many people waste money on MAF
And boost sensors egr valves
When all it is is to much air getting in

Qpr1975

The air filter boxes on vivaro's rattle and just 1 bracket which holds it in place
Brakes which causes more air to get in
Which then causes the van to run sluggish
Usually after a while the glow plug light will flash
Basically telling you there's a fault to much air getting into the turbo
Which will then cause the loss of power
And Limp mode

mechanic28

iTrader: (5)

but the air box is before the maf?so the ecm will know exaclty how much air is going in

saph4be

How can you have too much air? Sounds like shite to me! The maf sensor would pick it up?

jamie's

to much air getting into the airbox?
thats a new 1

Qpr1975

HOOORRRAAAYYY

Its sorted haveing thrown nearly 2 grand at this fault i dont know weather to laugh or cry at hte 50 quid it actually cost to fix this problem.. it was the air filter box wich is held in by 3 screws and 2 clips at the back any way 1 of the clips had broke and wasnt holding the filter in place properly. it held the filter in place till i hit seventy then failed and let the air rush straight onto the mass airflow and put the light on. So replaced whole airbox and the van runs perfect

Qpr1975

The guy above spent over £1000 quid on new sensors
And egr valve plus labour an over 5 diagnostic tests
When all it was is the air filter

Qpr1975

So many vauxhall vivaro owners have this problem and get conned
Makes me laugh ! They listen to the lies of vauxhall dealers
Who know exactly what the problem is

mechanic28

iTrader: (5)

really mate thats funny i worked for vauxhall for 16 years and this is new to me i fail to see how the air box letting in air(which is what it does)its going to effect a engine in anyway?speciallly in the way your are talking about it will make no odds to it so please explain to me

Qpr1975

Are explain

Qpr1975

I was driving along and I noticed the glow plug flashed on and off for a fe seconds and thought nothing of it until the van started to drive sluggish and feel like there was no power
Then the light went out and everything was back to normal
So the next morning I started it up and notice the the engine didn't sound right like it was ticking over slower than normal and the revs were hovering on idle at around 10
Anyway drove around for a few days and noticed the glow plug light had come on and stayed on then the ban started to go into limp mode
So I pulled over and lifted the bonnet and pressed down on the air filter box and the glow plug light went off I noticed the box was not very secure so drove home
And had a look and found that the bracket and one of the clips had broken causing it to rattle so I bought a new air filter box put it on and everything was back to normal no glow plug light and the van ran like a rocket

Qpr1975

Quick update !
It's Defo the airfilter box being lose that's causing the problem
3 people with same fault now fixed it

Qpr1975

Turbo pipe must be tight and air filter box must be secure down tight to engine

vtec grin

I think it's the fact that the MAF is vibrating because it is attatched to a vibrating (loose) air box which is causing the problem ? Why ? well the MAF works by sending a current through a wire element heating it to a set temperature (say 100 deg C). Air flowing over this element will cool it. More current is needed to heat the element back up to 100 deg C. The change in current is used to enable calculations of air flow from its cooling effect on the element. This data is used by the ECU to calculate air DENSITY. SO what you say ? Well what happens when you wave your hand fast in the air ? .... it cools down pretty quickly. Hence a vibrating MAF element will send FALSE HIGH signals of air flow to the ECU which in turn will rapidly increase fuel mixture to the combustion chamber to compensate. If the O2 sensor doesnt pick this up and correct it quickly enough the engine will "flood" leading to a serious lack of power. A vibrating MAF will lead to a rich running mixture at best or might on occasion lead to a flooded engine ... which miraculously recovers after being allowed to rest by the roadside after a few minutes.

So make sure your air box is bolted down firmly before spending a fortune on diags or parts.

Although the above could be a complete load of tosh

good luck guys.

vtec .... an enthusiastic amateur.

botters

iTrader: (2)

the extra air getting in through a crack or such in the box would not affect it as the air flow meter can detect and adjust for it, they are however a delicate sensor and i do think as suggested above if it is vibrating around badly it could well affect the reading considerably

vtec grin

To add .. extra air isnt too much of a problem but intermittent extra air can be if the MAF is too sensitive and makes the ECU throw a wobbler from spikes in signal from the MAF sensor. Thanks to research and posts on this board my nieces van is now driving like new ,saving a fortune in the process. thanks guys

pompeynige

Hi can anyone help my vivaro losses power and go's into limp mode Then the stop engine light comes on .
The Garage put it on the computer and its showing up EGR VALVE .

But ive replaced this and its still doing it , And the computer is still saying EGR Valve .
can anyone help.