Richy888

Hi,

I currently have a 1.3 ka converted for the track and am wanting more power so am upgrading to a 2.0 blacktop as I want to keep the engine near standard as 150/60bhp is more than enough in a bean can espically when I am used to only about 70bhp in it!

Just a few questions,

Need to source a 220mm flywheel with cps marks. I am after a lightened one however even if i can get hold of a standard one and then just take it to a machinist and have it lightened. My question is what car can I get such a flywheel from? I only know of the 1.8 zetec escort. I'm going to use an ap erst organic clutch matched to an IB5 gearbox.

silvertop 1.8 sump - How comes you have to use this?

Heater - I don't want to run a heater as to de-mist the screen I'll run an inline blower or get a heated front screen so I want to lose the heater take off. I brushed over a water rail conversion? Does anyone have any more info on this?

Inlet manifold - I don't want to run a turbo or throttlebodies for the minute but is there a better inlet manifold out there to run?

Alternator - need to source one but does it matter if it's from something like a 1.8 or 2.0 zetec? I won't be drawing massive amounts from the battery as it is only going to be used for power gauges, lights and the engine.

Thank you,

Richard

gaza469

have you looked into the engine mounts and the fact ul need to cut the front driverside top of the front panel to allow room for the head of the wider 16v'er. also how much have you looked into the what ecu ur going to use and the wiring?

iv looked into it alot as i want to go for a st150 or 170 lump and turbo or supercharge it. maybe we could both help each other out with info. mine is a way off yet as im stil deciding but should be a good project.

what brakes are you using?

Gari

gaza469

for the inlet manifold, have you looked at the rs turbo over the cam cover ones? or the rover turbo ones? they both seem to work really well. plus i think the rs throttle is about 56mm

Richy888

Track designs make engine mounts luckily so that is a major bridge crossed

Also they make alternator brackets to move it to the front on the blacktops It's only a tiny piece cut out of the front so I'm not worried otherwisee I'll space frame one up

I'm thinking throttle bodies now as it'll make everything more simple. I'm going to run Omex 600 as they do a pre-made loom for Zetecs

The ka build is here - https://passionford.com/forum/restor...-pictures.html

Haven't really done anything new other than a pedal box and side exit exhaust I need to put up

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

Stick a 1.7 puma lump in it if you're staying n/a?
Lighter lump so handling won't be affected as much, will produce the same power, and an easier conversion iirc.

Dan track ka

I have also lost the heater from my track ka. Im going to use a heater/blower that goes in the cigerette port. But hard wired.

I also considered fitting just the heater matrix rad behind the dash with out the fan, but its pointless really.

Also, as was said above, if your staying n/a go for the puma 1700, all alloy. and vvt and 125bhp. blacktop is 130 but heavier.

Or i might have a 1600 sportka engine forsale in a couple month, swr cam, swr manifold, brand new clutch, sportka gearbox. straight swap in a few hours.

Richy888

I'd rather stick to zetec as I already have it and have heard nothing but good things about it. Also omex make a specific loom for it making it alot easier to put into the car and I can run there throttle body kit with it giving me about 150bhp.

I had a sportka and as lovely as it was to drive. With those mods it can't see any more than 110/115bhp? and also I had nothing but misfire problems and constantly burning out leads and sensors along with a coilpack.

Pob

Is an st170 engine out of your budget, apparently these easily make 200 on bodies. They are basically a zetec.

gaza469

yea thats right they do. even the fiesta st lump are highly tuneable, with just an exhaust, cams, filter and map you can have 190-200hp

this is what iv been looking at. then add on a low compression turbo or a supercharger and your laughing

as far as im aware, the main differences between the zetec and duratec lumps is the zetecs are belt driven and the duratecs are chain driven. theres obviously loads of other small differences which make them completely different but in simple terms thats how i understand them. and that the duratec bottom ends are stronger aswel.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

The 'duratec' engines found in the st170s and the focus RS (I'm not sure about the fiesta st) are just glorified zetec engines, belt driven, and tarted up. 'Real' duratecs are, as stated, chain driven, and a mazda engine.

Hobomassiv

Hi Rich, nice to see you still going with the Ka after all this time.

The 1.8 sump is needed because of the gearbox and the exhaust.

I have an RS1800 inlet for my 2.1ZT Ka and the RS1800 is obviously a n/a fiesta so i should think that would be better than the standard. They are relatively cheap to get but yo uwill have bonnet clearance issues IIRC, the CVH 'over the top' inlet fouls the bonnet unless spaced.

Also to everyone else: The zetec engine actually weighs similar or less than the original ka engine, only diff is that it has a higher centre of gravity because of the huge 16v head compared to the 70's-tastic endura engine.



Good luck with the project Richy!

Richy888

Thanks. I have the sump and flywheel now

I don't want to put bonnet spacers in I think they look disgusting personally!! That's why I'm thinking throttle bodies plus will give it a nice boost in bhp to race with

Dan track ka

You could try and source a blakey inlet. I got a cast alloy one for the ZVH. Dont think theres many about tho.

Dan track ka

OOps, double post.