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Old 12-01-2014, 04:44 PM
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Any one clued up I've a 610 husky and I'm just re wiring it and it's going to have a day time mot so may re move the lighting loom as it's been butchered.
From what I can see I don't need any lights at all road legal tyres and it can't be too loud? Also can you fail if you have a switch gear that controls lights but there are no lights?

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Oh course it needs lights to be road legal, it will fail without!

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No switch gear mate just a means of starting & stopping it. hope this helps.
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Oh course it needs lights to be road legal, it will fail without!

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Was chatting to guy behind the counter at just bikes in Basingstoke about it and I said about it having a brake light and he said if there's one light it needs them all so remove the brake light they do mot's
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Originally Posted by firebirdsam
No switch gear mate just a means of starting & stopping it. hope this helps.
I no it also needs a horn but it's impossible to get a switch gear with only a kill switch and a horn on it.
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you dont need a headlight,but if one is fitted it needs to work.same as indicaters.must have brake light and a horn.its a strange one as everyone has a diffrent opinion,but i know for a fact as i did it with one of my race bikes
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Originally Posted by madsi
you dont need a headlight,but if one is fitted it needs to work.same as indicaters.must have brake light and a horn.its a strange one as everyone has a diffrent opinion,but i know for a fact as i did it with one of my race bikes
Is an odd one the bike has a brake light on it now and a small head light but the garage said remove all lights and no brake light and they do mot's I may ask another test station that's close by as well
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yes its worth asking another garage,i got tugged by the police a few time,as it was clearly a race bike and never had any problems from the law
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Originally Posted by madsi
yes its worth asking another garage,i got tugged by the police a few time,as it was clearly a race bike and never had any problems from the law
I have been told to be prepared to get pulled all the time lol
Buts it's only a Sunday toy so not really to worried as it will be legal
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I had a wr450 last year and put a day time mot on it.From what i can gather if it is fitted it has to work so if you have switch gear you need fully working lights.All mine had was a brake light and horn,NO headlight tail light or indicators.

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mine was used the same as spot1's bike i used a cheap electric horn that packed up soon after the mot

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Don't know about the horn but not having a brake light has always been a strange one to me (don't people need to know when you are braking)
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According to the Carole Nash website, this is the legal perspective :

To qualify for a daytime MOT your bike must “have neither front nor rear position lamps, or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked.” This applies to headlamps, position lamps and indicators. The situation with stop lamps is significantly more complicated. Machines do not need to have a stop lamp fitted if they cannot exceed 25mph, were first used before 1st January 1936 or were first used before 1st April 1986 and do not exceed 50cc. Those first used before 1st April 1986 must have a stop lamp that operates from at least one brake control and those used on or after that date must have a stop lamp operated from both brakes. There is an added if not widespread complication for bikes first used from 1st April 1986 which were approved with a stop lamp activated by one control. There were very few of these and test inspectors are instructed to fail a bike only if they are certain the stop lamp was designed to be operated by both brake controls and isn’t.

Your bike must be fitted with a rear reflector and an “audible warning device”, typically an electrical horn, which must be loud enough to be heard by another road user.

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Is an odd one but if a garage will give me an mot with just a horn and road legal tyres then that's cool! But I think tomorrow I'll ask the other garage in Basingstoke as well. Defo don't need any lights or reflectors as it's a day time mot only one I'm not sure on is the brake light which I was going to leave on until just bikes said if I do that I'll need all the other lights to go with it

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I think it changes things if the bike was first made with out lights like mine would have been as it was an enduro bike
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Just bear in mind that the guy behind the counter isn't necessarily the MOT tester - I have looked up the rules, and posted what I believe to be the accurate position. A lot of people don't know what they're talking about and unless you speak to the person who signs the MOT, you MAY not be being given the correct info.
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Originally Posted by firebirdsam
Just bear in mind that the guy behind the counter isn't necessarily the MOT tester - I have looked up the rules, and posted what I believe to be the accurate position. A lot of people don't know what they're talking about and unless you speak to the person who signs the MOT, you MAY not be being given the correct info.
Tester was sat there as well as we was chatting and he sorted me out a wiring diagram as he used to work for husky he also builds custom bikes so he should be clued up on the rules I'd guess
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