'That' cambered Mk1 Golf/Rabbit...

[Ginge]

This is nothing new, the japs have been doing it for years. Oni Kyan is what they call it, Devil Camber i think it translates to. It's like everything in the car modifying scene some people are going appreciate it for what it is and others are going to have a different opinion. That golf takes the piss though, im all for trying to be different but you got to be safe when practising this. Ginge

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[CoupeUK]

Whats with all the newbies signing up to defend their side lol

[21-AARON-21]

Originally Posted by CoupeUK

Whats with all the newbies signing up to defend their side lol

il assume u mean me? ul see i havnt actually taken a side....

[CoupeUK]

Originally Posted by 21-AARON-21

il assume u mean me? ul see i havnt actually taken a side....

No not you mate, sorry if I was unclear!

[21-AARON-21]

no probs lol but il take a side now....i absolutley hate the rat look scene, and that first golf is ridiculous but i do appreciate an early mk golf or similiar with a bit of mild camber and tyre stretch.

[MikeyMK]

Just seen a link to this site on clubpolo.co.uk What a dissapointment. What a reflection on me,a known ex Ford enthusiast.

My experience with early fast Fiestas led me to the car i have today,because i didn't bum one marque. They were fun but had pissed steering colums,strange chassis set ups of panhard rod on fwd car,reverse opening bonnets and sounded like ball bearings in a biscuit tin.
This is my Polo,and is everything my twin 40'd XR2 failed to be..



And this makes me a Hitler loving what?
Yes that white Golf is ridiculous. The owner is a prat. But where's the hate coming from, aimed generally at those of us also driving modified 80's VW's?

I always knew Ford owners were yobs.. Even though family members cars include two MK1 Lotus Cortinas, a MK2 Cortina Lotus, '77 RS1800 16v and '73 RS1800 Id rather be known as a BMW X5 driver than a Ford driver right now, i think.
But that's only if half this topic is anything to go by - i'll take it that its an isolated case.

[Chip]

MikeyMK, nothing wrong with that polo, cool little sleeper, and isnt a crappy cliche'd "scene" car at all.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Cutmore

Those are good examples of VW's, i don't see the whole point here, you get some good VW's and you get some bad VW's same as Fords.

There are some excellent VWs out there, this thread is on about the pikey subclass of VW owners who just throw random shite all over their car like home made roof racks and then make their bonnet deliberately rusty and all that shit.

And to be fair you cannot link a manufacturer to one kind of Style...

Well its certainly not the fault of VW themselves, it wasnt their idea to do all this shit to their cars.

[Mike C]

Originally Posted by Chip

MikeyMK, nothing wrong with that polo, cool little sleeper, and isnt a crappy cliche'd "scene" car at all.

Agreed, that's fine. Nicely done and nothing ridiculous about it.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Mike C

Agreed, that's fine. Nicely done and nothing ridiculous about it.

Amazes me he would even vaguely identify with the comments in this thread which are clearly aimed at the large fucktard idiot subset of the VW scene who just do loads of random cheap shit to their car for no reason at all to try and "be different" by doing the same shit as all the other fashion victims, entirely different approach to just having a tidy car with a little more go than normal.

Shame about the horrific lag on that polo though

[MikeyMK]

I quite fancy a set of Allycats if i can find some with a sensible offset,but it seems this'd mean im an eyeliner-wearing gay emo. Especially when carrying the canoe to the lakes on the metal,framed,matt black roof rack.

With a power to weight ratio of around 200bhp/ton and standard looks,mine isn't the best argument against most of those commenting on the first two pages,but we dont all want stupid power any more than a rolling silverware cabinet. I went for throttle response over turbo surge because its a daily road driver and i dont have the time for twisty/quarter-mile playgrounds when i can just enjoy my daily travels in town.

Appreciate the sentiments for the thing though.

But the previous pages label such mods like extreme camber as typical of the VW scene,when such photos are clearly taken in the US. Oh,and one UK magazine with sponsorship bias'. The photos shown in this topic that were taken in the UK show no such thing. Ive posted over 10,000 posts on the afore mentioned VW site in over four years and never seen such extreme mods on a members car. The one or two who got close got criticism. The worst it tends to get is rear wheels an inch wider than the fronts (on a fwd car..) and stretched tyres so as to get the tread under the arch and keep the thing legal. My one is actually far more typical of the usual modified VW,albeit with standard wheels (like standard wheels are a common modified Ford thing?) with lots of subtle differences you untrained eyes wont notice.

If you think its all about making it look like an automotive anorexic boob job in high heels then you need some organic calibration. Catwalk queens dress in some ridiculous outfits but theyre tamed by the time they reach Primark. Putting up pictures of the automotive catwalk isn't an accurate reflection of the High street.

Note on the rat look whilst im on one - air cooled VWs have seperate chassis,with upper bodies which didnt rust badly in the south US. Some bodies didnt get a share in the restoration and yet many looked great still sporing their old bleached paint. And rat Model T's were about long before anyone tried (and invariably fail in) carrying it over to water-cooled monocoque VWs in the name of fashion. Im not keen either but its not typical of the VW scene.

Thanks for the comments above on mine,thats nice,and appreciated even though i wouldn't care otherwise. I think most here would have equally contrasting comments to make on most modified VW's compared to the oddballs picked out for this thread. Maybe the VW scene is a bit more combats than jeans,but they all get 5w/40 on them at some point.

[scirocco_guy]

like Mikey i've just saw this thread from a link posted on club polo. i'd like to point out that pretty much every one on there has agreed with the comments on the mk1 golf, running that much camber is retarded enough, but not being able to see that it's dangerous and then placing the blame on the copper for removing it from the road takes it to a whole new level.


but there seems to be a lot of generalization going on here, calling the whole VW scene 'gay' , vw owner's 'hitler lovers' and trying to impliy that they emo's. chip, you seem to have a lot of pent up frustration, maybe this mk1 golf or the vw scene in general isn't the problem here for you? maybe your starting to have some warm positive feeling growing deep inside you for euro'd vw's that you are trying to suppress, a bit like the men that beat up homo's for being gay but then go home and bash one off over gay porn?...

some of the attitudes on this thread remind me of some of the attitudes on the 'scene' vw sites, lots of narrow minded people up their own arses taring every one with the same stick and spouting their opinions off as if it were fact.


i'd just like to point out that i don't bum vw's, i love 70-80's car's of any make, and i have a passion for old fords that leads back to my childhood when my step dad used to run nothing but tuned fords (fond memories of lots of side ways action). i owned a string of escorts and fiestas as well before moving over to vw and i still have an itch that needs scratching in the form of a mk1 Capri resto project.


and thanks to the few that stuck up for people in the VW scene, we are not all arrogant nobs that look down on people with other makes of car's, a lot of us are real car enthusiasts.

[cabrio zo]

I think some people have spent FAR too much time on this thread

[CoupeUK]

Link to ClubPolo thread.....http://www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/inde...owtopic=182735

[alan12112]

Originally Posted by Chip

which just sums up the whole gay VW scene in the first place, its full of people modifying their cars to make them SLOWER round a track, like the gay litle wheels people fit and then have to go down to 1.4 polo brakes etc

No, its a moron thing, and I dont want to understand it as I like cars that are fast.

Originally Posted by Chip

At the end of the day, its plain and simple, the entire scene are fashion victims, they arent doing something because it improves their car, they are doing it to try and fit in with a bunch of other fuckwits.
Its a cult, and I just wish they would do the decent thing and all get together in a house on the hill and kill themselves like other cult members have the decency to do, rather than killing themselves on the road in unsafe shit vehicles where they might take some innocents with them.

Originally Posted by Chip

Amazes me he would even vaguely identify with the comments in this thread which are clearly aimed at the large fucktard idiot subset of the VW scene who just do loads of random cheap shit to their car for no reason at all to try and "be different" by doing the same shit as all the other fashion victims, entirely different approach to just having a tidy car with a little more go than normal.

Shame about the horrific lag on that polo though

It's probably due to the fact that yu are backpedaling Chip, trying to make out that you didn't say the ENTIRE scene was full of fashion victims etc

Usualy when you say entire it means entire, but I guess not in the "i'm Chip and I know better than everyone else" world that you live in. Me and Gaz 3i we're the only ones defending VW's until the guys came in themselves with examples and then you completely changed your story (see above)


HTH

[PeterRST]

Originally Posted by CoupeUK

Link to ClubPolo thread.....http://www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/inde...owtopic=182735

It's actually good to see that even over there, there's a quite a few people sharing our views!

[zetec-Sam]

Originally Posted by CoupeUK

Link to ClubPolo thread.....http://www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/inde...owtopic=182735

Lol, they're worse than us

Love how they seem to be taking the piss out of chips nova, atleast it is fucking different, not the same old slammed on wide wheels with stretched tyres that no doubt 60% of that forum is full of. Things like motorsport inspired vw's, The dahlback golf, I have alot of time for, mainly because they're different!

Also, how they go on about stripped being a 'look', when most people do it to make their car faster...

Alteast there are people on there talking sense aswell though, old skool ford will always be better than vw

[Chip]

Originally Posted by alan12112

It's probably due to the fact that yu are backpedaling Chip, trying to make out that you didn't say the ENTIRE scene was full of fashion victims etc

I was on about the entire subset of the VW scene into this particular look, which Ive referred to as the "gay vw" scene, which I guess is an amiguous term to use, and maybe it looked like I was calling the larger VW scene as a whole gay from that comment.
When Im saying "gay vw scene" Im talking about the people who are there for the scene first and the vws after.
But TBH I thought it was obvious which subset we were all talking about in this thread, it never occurred to me anyone would think I meant things like the mid engined polo thats always at pod, or even this little polo here on the TBs in this thread, or the other big power and fast VW's out there, I was very specific that I was talking only about the people modifying their cars to make them slower and handle shite etc.

[Chopshop85]

I do like how they've picked up a vibe of "ford owners thinking all veedubers are eyeliner wearing gays" when its only the retards like the owner of that mk1. Also how the polo thread has now turnt into a ford hating thread. Contradiction much.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Slamz

Love how they seem to be taking the piss out of chips nova, atleast it is fucking different, not the same old slammed on wide wheels with stretched tyres that no doubt 60% of that forum is full of. Things like motorsport inspired vw's, The dahlback golf, I have alot of time for, mainly because they're different!

I glanced through that thread and only comment I saw about my nova was that it was amazing, didnt see anyone slating it, which comment where you on about?

Agreed on the dahlback golf, proper bit of kit.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Chopshop85

I do like how they've picked up a vibe of "ford owners thinking all veedubers are eyeliner wearing gays" when its only the retards like the owner of that mk1. Also how the polo thread has now turnt into a ford hating thread. Contradiction much.

Indeed, I noticed the irony in that, they were slagging off ford owners as a whole, where as we were just slagging off the "scene" vw owners who arent even into VW's properly anyway and just want an easy way to "be different" like all the emo kids do with their makeup etc so buy a golf and do something easy to do but totally stupid to it to try and get attention.
VW scene is far bigger than that, as is the ford scene.

[scirocco_guy]

chip, for some one that doesn't like or care about the vw scene you seem to 'know' quite a bit about it and what it stands for.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by scirocco_guy

chip, for some one that doesn't like or care about the vw scene you seem to 'know' quite a bit about it and what it stands for.

I am a petrol head, makes no difference to me what make a car is, I really like some VW and Audi's and have plenty of mates who are heavily into them.

Would happily have a mk1 golf with a 20VT for example and one of my best mates is building a big power 4wd corrado that i'll be helping him with and probably mapping, I like the performance side of the VAGs, its just all the "scene" crap I hate.

Exactly the same as my views on saxos for example (and previously novas although the chavs have moved on from them now), I hate all the ones done "for looks" with loads of fibreglass shitty kit bits hanging off them etc, but I love them when done as a trackday car as they are a great handling car with lots of potential

[Lambchop]

I quite like some VW's but that blue polo above looks fuckign awful

If i hadn't bought my rst when i did i'd prob have gone down the golf gti route and be wearing eye liner in public now and not just in the bedroom

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Lambchop

I quite like some VW's but that blue polo above looks fuckign awful

This one?



Looks fine to me, no stupid styling and probably fairly quick, whats up with it in your opinion then?

[Lambchop]

Originally Posted by Chip

This one?



Looks fine to me, no stupid styling and probably fairly quick, whats up with it in your opinion then?

yeah that one. I love old cars but sometimes i just cant stand them. This would rate up there with the capri and a nova saloon in on the fugly car list in my eyes i'm afraid.

We drive sierras so hey what would we know?

[scirocco_guy]

chip i am a petrol head too, but i don't feel the need to make sweeping statement's calling people 'gay' 'hitler loving hippys' or 'emo's' just because they are doing some thing with their car that i don't like.

and because i don't do that i don't find myself having to back track and try and twist my earlier comments making myself look like a twat in a thread that's being passed around car sites like like a piece of jail bait at a gray glitter gig

[MikeyMK]

Sierras are okay,as long as you're one of the lucky few who can see over the dashboard.

Looks though,i obviously dont care for. The only part of the exterior i get to see 95% of the time is the bonnet - though thats something Sierra owners wont be able to relate to.

[B-shaw]

waheeey, bitchfest

Also trecking it over from good old clubpolo I love some of the smileys on this site btw lmao!

Hmm anyway. I think narrow minded is an understatement to some of the comments on here.
Chip, you have soon changed your tune, now your trying to turn all your comments around by saying you didnt mean the entire scene, when you clearly stated that you did.... 'which just sums up the whole gay VW scene in the first place' 'the entire scene are fashion victims'

What is really wrong with modding a car for looks? Some people cant afford to put big engines and phat turbos on there cars. Insurance happens to be a big issue at a certain age.

I love old fords, this for example nearly made me buy a MK1 fiesta...


And look at that, it looks good, has dish and i spy stretched tires.
But also, something else to look at....


Enough said

[MikeyMK]

Ah takes me back to summer 1990, hearing-aid beige '80 Fiesta 950 pop just outside Soulbury, rad water pissing all over the floor, getting water and a pint from the three locks pub.

Thems were the days.

[Slaney21]

can i get a WHOOOOOOOOOOOOSSHHHH

[Skeetskeet]

[CoupeUK]

What engines in that Polo on ITB's?

Looks familiar but I cant work it out lol

[Chip]

Originally Posted by scirocco_guy

chip i am a petrol head too, but i don't feel the need to make sweeping statement's calling people 'gay' 'hitler loving hippys' or 'emo's' just because they are doing some thing with their car that i don't like.

and because i don't do that i don't find myself having to back track and try and twist my earlier comments making myself look like a twat in a thread that's being passed around car sites like like a piece of jail bait at a gray glitter gig

Not backtracking at all, still feel exactly the same way I did at the start of the thread.

Cars modified to be part of this part of the VW scene are fucking shite.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, it was worded badly by me if people are confused that I hate all vw's, I dont, in fact Ive been helping a lad with a mk1 20VT, and another mate of mine with a Corrado G60, and also will be helping my mate build his 4wd audi 5cyl lump corrado 4wd.

Its just the "scene" that I dont like not the cars themselves, and I mean that word in the context of all this shite with stupid camber and deliberate rust and all the other wank like that, I hated that at the beginning of the thread and I still do, and always will.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by B-shaw

Chip, you have soon changed your tune, now your trying to turn all your comments around by saying you didnt mean the entire scene, when you clearly stated that you did.... 'which just sums up the whole gay VW scene in the first place' 'the entire scene are fashion victims'

I used the term gay to mean the ratlook stuff, as I think its gay/shit/any other dergoratory word/wank etc.

So if you read what I said of "the entire gay vw scene" in the context I meant it of the "entire ratlook vw scene" then you will realise that my tune hasnt changed at all, I hate all that shit as much now as I did at the beginning of the thread, if you read my actual comments not just one line of it, you will see I was VERY clearly talking about only these types of cars.
Ive nothing against tastefully modified cars if they happen to have a VW badge, I have no specific brand loyalty particuarly, im just a petrolhead, ive got an audi, a ford, a nova etc

[scirocco_guy]

Mike C, just out of curiosity, if VW owners are 'hitler lovers' then what would that make ford owners?...

here's Henry Ford being awarded the Grand Service Cross of the Supreme Order of the German Eagle


the highest 'honor' a foreigner could receive from the Nazi regime

[Chip]

Originally Posted by scirocco_guy

chip, just out of curiosity, if VW owners are 'hitler lovers' then what would that make ford owners?...

Ive never used the term hitler lovers, you must have read someone elses comment and got it confused with mine.

I dont think that the idiot little "scene" kids are even VW lovers, yet alone German or Hitler lovers, they are merely fashion victims with no real interest in cars or their heritage.

[Nomaderst]

Tell you what, I prefer VW / Audi shows to Ford ones, much friendlier and loads of diff stuff, obviously there are trends but more than the 2 in the Ford scene, shiney bufty or trackslag. You get those 2, and many many more. I personally prefer a ratlook car to a acre of tacky chrome, but when you seen the sov'ed up, golden argos wearing stereotype dragging his staffi/wife around Ford Fair you can understand the appeal it holds I suppose

Other points, I never feel like I might be about to be robbed at knifepoint at a VW show, I have walked past some people on the bridge at silverstone before and had to check to see if I still had my trainers after.

Have you seen the difference in quality of the girls at the Ford shows and the VW ones? hmmm The eyeliner is working for the VW boys!

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Nomaderst

Have you seen the difference in quality of the girls at the Ford shows and the VW ones? hmmm The eyeliner is working for the VW boys!

FPMSL

[MikeyMK]

Originally Posted by CoupeUK

What engines in that Polo on ITB's?

Looks familiar but I cant work it out lol

Its a unique hybrid - usually a 1.4 but this one's a 1.6 long stroke with big compression.
The 'ITBs' are individual bike carbs.