'That' cambered Mk1 Golf/Rabbit...

[3i_gaz]

Originally Posted by alan12112 Don't agree with you on this bit Chip. Just because they aren't all obsessed with performance doesn't make the scene 'gay' We're not all into track cars! exactly, my pol gti will be getting 195/40's on a 7.5j rim, coilies wound down to the hilt and some mild camber shims and camber adjust bolts to do all the shows with. if i want to track it get the standard 15's back on with sticky rubber and a geo change. some people would call chopping a nova to bits and sticking an engine in the back complete toss and stupid, but theres an arse for every seat that rabbit in the thread is utterly fucking stupid and has been taken way too far. but tbh i love the whole "dub" scene now, tgo to a dub show and you see so many cars that have had silly amounts of man hours put into them and are ridiculously clean, good to see people with that sort of commitment. people daring to be different will kill the whole car scene IMO

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[PeterRST]

Euro look is uber gay and the main reason why I hate the German tuning scene and have to come over here...

If people started doing that shit to their Cossies and RSTs I'd happily shoot myself in the head...

[Chris Honeywell]

Jesus i can not believe that people would even drive a car looking like that
lol.
I can understand people liking all sorts of cars etc, hell i can even understand people liking beetles and VW camper vans . But this stretched tyre on tiny wheels with little brake thing is just beyond me

[massivewangers]

Originally Posted by 3i_gaz

exactly, my pol gti will be getting 195/40's on a 7.5j rim, coilies wound down to the hilt and some mild camber shims and camber adjust bolts to do all the shows with.

if i want to track it get the standard 15's back on with sticky rubber and a geo change.

some people would call chopping a nova to bits and sticking an engine in the back complete toss and stupid, but theres an arse for every seat

that rabbit in the thread is utterly fucking stupid and has been taken way too far.

but tbh i love the whole "dub" scene now, tgo to a dub show and you see so many cars that have had silly amounts of man hours put into them and are ridiculously clean, good to see people with that sort of commitment.

people daring to be different will kill the whole car scene IMO

But since when in the hell has having loads of camber looked cool? Wake up and smell the poo poo, it just looks like your wheels are on the piss and your car is broken.

I used to really like some aspects of the VW scene. The smooth, simple styling, split rims, nice stances, well thought out modifications. Now it's just ridiculous, it just seems to be about scraping cats eyes and who can do the most ridiculous modifications for the sake of being 'different'.

I know a lad who had a 16v Polo, dropped it so low the centre box would hit the floor if he did 70 on a dual carriageway. It had stupid little superlights on that were just way too small for the car and ridiculous vinyl plastered over a couple of the panels, with that smarties vinyl in other places, and other random stickers here and there. It broke down constantly, kept smashing the exhaust up, breaking bits here there and everywhere. What's the point in making a car undriveable? VW people seemed to love the thing, yet it was a pile of shit, he could barely drive it.

I would wager that people on the Ford scene put just as many hours into cars, just check out some of the projects on here. The difference is, other scenes seem to be able to blend looks with the ability to actually use the car, rather than just sacrificing every aspect of driving the car for the sake of it being low and having wonky wheels

They're a breed unto themselves. I'm Ford through and through, yet I've been to meets for other marques and can always find something to talk about with people who appreciate a smart/fast/nicely put together car, yet it seems at VW events, I'm just not accepted, because I don't understand why you should make a car totally incapable of fulfilling its sole purpose of actually being a car. Shame really, as they have some decent engines and nice cars to play with, you just don't seem to see anything particularly special, as they're all too worried about skimming the road surface and wearing funny hats

[3i_gaz]

the whole VAG scene, euro look, rat look etc..... isn't just a dub thing anymore, theres ford nuts doing it, vauxhall nuts doing it, even jap boys are giving it a go with civics etc....

if done right it looks brilliant, you can't say it looks "gay" just becuase of one totally ott gobshite with a rabbit.

i'm a ford nut through and through, but havent got tunnel vision like most of the narrowminded blacksheep gobshites on here who will just follow the trend of the "big boys" i appreciate all different makes, models and styles of cars.

i don't see why its "gay"

most people dont have loads of camber to look "cool" on a dub, its so wider wheels with stretched tyres will fit under the arch.

[Turbo Transit]

most people dont have loads of camber to look "cool" on a dub, its so wider wheels with stretched tyres will fit under the arch.

So you intentionally fuck up the suspension, in order to allow some incorrectly fitting wheels (which are undoubtedly fitted with incorrectly fitting tyres) to fit under the arch....

And you cant see why thats retarded?

[Tank Mike]

I've only every been to 1 No rice Meet! All the cars look the same! There all low as fuck and some stupid gay wheels on with wrong tyres and far too much camber!

Its pathetic!

Do these dump arses not understand how dangerous streched tyres are in the firstplace???

[massivewangers]

Originally Posted by 3i_gaz

the whole VAG scene, euro look, rat look etc..... isn't just a dub thing anymore, theres ford nuts doing it, vauxhall nuts doing it, even jap boys are giving it a go with civics etc....

if done right it looks brilliant, you can't say it looks "gay" just becuase of one totally ott gobshite with a rabbit.

i'm a ford nut through and through, but havent got tunnel vision like most of the narrowminded blacksheep gobshites on here who will just follow the trend of the "big boys" i appreciate all different makes, models and styles of cars.

i don't see why its "gay"

most people dont have loads of camber to look "cool" on a dub, its so wider wheels with stretched tyres will fit under the arch.

People with other marques doing it are still very much in the minority though, and are effectively just copying ideas from the VAG scene, so it's all the same really.

I'm not basing my opinion totally on this fucktard, I've seen countless VAGs and euro cars following similar trends, even to less extreme levels than this one.

I certainly wouldn't say I've got tunnel vision myself. I don't own a Cossie, or an RS Turbo. I like both, but I'm a big fan of far less commonly modified blue ovals, ask anyone who knows me.

This whole thing gets slated so much for pretty solid reasons as far as I can see. To 99% of the car world, it really does look wanker than wank having these silly camber set ups and stretched tyres and things. Outside that, anyone with half a brain can see that adding large amounts of camber, stretch tyres, extremely low ride heights is seriously compromising the car's abilities in all respects. From tyre contact patch, stress on the tyre structure, stress on suspension and drivetrain components, stress on the chassis itself, the list just goes on. These cars must just be god awful and pretty scary to drive at times, which completely defeats the object of a car really

[The Diva]

Here`s the correct way to do the dub modding properly.....



Big rims (With the right size tyres ), Big brakes, proper suspension, and a decent remap......

Job done

Just ask Shorty, he`s still in love with it

[Shings]

Originally Posted by The Diva

Here`s the correct way to do the dub modding properly.....



Big rims (With the right size tyres ), Big brakes, proper suspension, and a decent remap......

Job done

Just ask Shorty, he`s still in love with it

AGREED.

That is a smart looking motor.

No Gayness in sight.

If I squint closely it even looks like you could use this car EVERYDAY as it might have been intended.

If I squint a bit more it might even look like it has been IMPROVED.




WHO THE FUCK EVER HEARD OF MODIFYING A CAR TO MAKE IT WORSE!!!!!!!!

[-beefy-]

only thing i dont get about the whole rat look

is what the fuck is the big deal with the baremettalling bonnets??

ive seen a 08 golf gti , lowed fat rims and he had stripped a brand new bonnett bk ??


i wtf ??

beef

[SiZT]

Originally Posted by 3i_gaz

people daring to be different will kill the whole car scene IMO

So we should build a car to whatevers "bang on trend"?

[fezzajsy]

WTF

[RWD_cossie_wil]

VW scene is generally gayness on a stick... Actually, thats pretty offensive to the poo pushers, at least they know how to dress themselves

[harvcore]

i own this golf ,its ok but id rather have a ford anyday over it ,strange that it is more of a cult car than any ford i have ever owned in regards to people commenting on it etc

[warrenpenalver]

Originally Posted by Chip

"It's a VW thing, you wouldnt understand"

No, its a moron thing, and I dont want to understand it as I like cars that are fast.

Brilliant

Originally Posted by Mike C

Yeah, whenever I see a modded VW I tend to think of eyeliner and self-harm...

NOOOO these fucking EMO cunts and VW cunts are giving us REAL self harmers a bad name!

Real self harmers usually hurt themselves for genuine reasons and genuine mental illness not for some pathetic fashion trend!!!

EMO morons ending up in A + E means the rest of us with genuine mental health issues get viewed with suspicion and often accused of being attention seeking emos!!!

Originally Posted by alan12112

I don't think deep dish wheels are gay at all and abit of camber on them sets them off really nice - of course this'll increase your insurance

So getting through sets of tyres every thousand miles and your car being a liability handling wise is sensible for a "look"??? a "look" that says "broken suspension"

Originally Posted by harvcore

i own this golf ,its ok but id rather have a ford anyday over it ,strange that it is more of a cult car than any ford i have ever owned in regards to people commenting on it etc

Do you use the roof rack??

Some of these rat idiots think a grotty roof rack with old suitcases looks good

[p17fld]

I think it looks 'phat'

[Turbo Transit]

The golf looks fine.

Ok the roof rack isnt to my taste, but its a styling mod that in no way effects anything else on the car, so it doesnt particularly bother me. I've gone with a dark and moody look on the A4, dechroming it and painting the rims black, again not to everyones taste, but thats the idea of styling.

The wheels fit, the tyres fit, and while its perhaps a little too low for perfect handling, its not been deliberately broken, and could quite probably be driven quickly without any problems.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by 3i_gaz

exactly, my pol gti will be getting 195/40's on a 7.5j rim, coilies wound down to the hilt and some mild camber shims and camber adjust bolts to do all the shows with.

if i want to track it get the standard 15's back on with sticky rubber and a geo change.

some people would call chopping a nova to bits and sticking an engine in the back complete toss and stupid, but theres an arse for every seat

Cars are about driving them, when you chop a nova up and stick a 400bhp+ engine in the back of it, at least its good fun to drive afterwards unlike some gay cambered up VW with shite suspension angles and fiat panda tyres stretch over 7.5 inch wide rims.
I guarentee you that nearly anyone, no matter what fucking gay chliched 'look' they are into, would enjoy a passenger ride in my car, where as all this boring "euro look" shite just isnt any fun at all to drive.

[Tank Mike]

I have a customer with a V6 4motion bora all "vag" up! Its stupidly low, Silly wheels with streched tyres ect ect.

Today im seeing him to fit the 4th sump to it!

Thats great motoring!!!!!

[massivewangers]

Originally Posted by The Diva

Here`s the correct way to do the dub modding properly.....



Big rims (With the right size tyres ), Big brakes, proper suspension, and a decent remap......

Job done

Just ask Shorty, he`s still in love with it

I bloody hate Bora's generally, but even I think that looks nice

These people are just a bunch of cunts. In my experiences, the cars are just fashion accessories, no more so than their clothes, hats etc etc. All very specific and pretty bloody stupid looking. Last dub show I went to, there was a couple of decent looking, well looked after cars with some tasteful mods, the rest were all these sheddy things with forced rust, or silly roof racks and chopped springs etc.

There was actually an auto jumble selling rusty panels and old suitcases and stuff

[Chopshop85]

Iv'e got a load of mates that are into the whole "dub" "vag" "whateverthefuckitis" scene. and they all drive around in stock vw, polo's/golfs with roof racks (usually with something like a lawnmower tied to it) and those stupid pink flower necklaces things blocking half their windscreen. and things like teddy bears/beany babies/ Ties hanging from their towbar.
Then they say thing like "why are you dropping a rst lump into that mk4 cabby....its still a ford *snort*" Because i'd rather have a car with more power then a rusty roof rack with half a car boot sale flapping off it!!

[Chip]

At the end of the day, its plain and simple, the entire scene are fashion victims, they arent doing something because it improves their car, they are doing it to try and fit in with a bunch of other fuckwits.
Its a cult, and I just wish they would do the decent thing and all get together in a house on the hill and kill themselves like other cult members have the decency to do, rather than killing themselves on the road in unsafe shit vehicles where they might take some innocents with them.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Chopshop85

Iv'e got a load of mates that are into the whole "dub" "vag" "whateverthefuckitis" scene. and they all drive around in stock vw, polo's/golfs with roof racks (usually with something like a lawnmower tied to it) and those stupid pink flower necklaces things blocking half their windscreen. and things like teddy bears/beany babies/ Ties hanging from their towbar.
Then they say thing like "why are you dropping a rst lump into that mk4 cabby....its still a ford *snort*" Because i'd rather have a car with more power then a rusty roof rack with half a car boot sale flapping off it!!

The reason that particular scene is attracting so many followers is that it takes fuck all skill or dedication to put a shite roofrack and lawnmower on your roof, its a scene that by definition attracts the fuckwits.

[Mike C]

Spot on!

The fact that you can create a full-on, "sorted" twat-look car for £4.50 appeals to all manner of tasteless, work-shy mongtards!

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Mike C

Spot on!

The fact that you can create a full-on, "sorted" twat-look car for £4.50 appeals to all manner of tasteless, work-shy mongtards!

Its exactly the same with all the shitty matt black cliche paint jobs, its because a clueless fucking idiot with 30 quid of rattle cans can do it, then claim its cool afterwards.

And because they all keep telling each other its cool while they all do the same talentless unimaginative shit to their cars, they perpetuate the whole scene.

[Ed_van_Dijk]

Originally Posted by massivewangers

But since when in the hell has having loads of camber looked cool? Wake up and smell the poo poo, it just looks like your wheels are on the piss and your car is broken.

I used to really like some aspects of the VW scene. The smooth, simple styling, split rims, nice stances, well thought out modifications. Now it's just ridiculous, it just seems to be about scraping cats eyes and who can do the most ridiculous modifications for the sake of being 'different'.

I know a lad who had a 16v Polo, dropped it so low the centre box would hit the floor if he did 70 on a dual carriageway. It had stupid little superlights on that were just way too small for the car and ridiculous vinyl plastered over a couple of the panels, with that smarties vinyl in other places, and other random stickers here and there. It broke down constantly, kept smashing the exhaust up, breaking bits here there and everywhere. What's the point in making a car undriveable? VW people seemed to love the thing, yet it was a pile of shit, he could barely drive it.
I would wager that people on the Ford scene put just as many hours into cars, just check out some of the projects on here. The difference is, other scenes seem to be able to blend looks with the ability to actually use the car, rather than just sacrificing every aspect of driving the car for the sake of it being low and having wonky wheels

They're a breed unto themselves. I'm Ford through and through, yet I've been to meets for other marques and can always find something to talk about with people who appreciate a smart/fast/nicely put together car, yet it seems at VW events, I'm just not accepted, because I don't understand why you should make a car totally incapable of fulfilling its sole purpose of actually being a car. Shame really, as they have some decent engines and nice cars to play with, you just don't seem to see anything particularly special, as they're all too worried about skimming the road surface and wearing funny hats

This one?




Agreed, its shit!

His mate has got a passat with some shit on his roof rack and some white tires and he bounces along rather than drive!

[Ed_van_Dijk]

Originally Posted by Chip

Its exactly the same with all the shitty matt black cliche paint jobs, its because a clueless fucking idiot with 30 quid of rattle cans can do it, then claim its cool afterwards.

And because they all keep telling each other its cool while they all do the same talentless unimaginative shit to their cars, they perpetuate the whole scene.

I was trying to persuade for my missus let me paint her car matt black and paint the wheels pink, she said no

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Ed_van_dijk

I was trying to persuade for my missus let me paint her car matt black and paint the wheels pink, she said no

Clearly your mrs has more of a clue about cars than you do

[RSTAaron]

Originally Posted by Ed_van_dijk

I was trying to persuade for my missus let me paint her car matt black and paint the wheels pink, she said no

Originally Posted by Chip

Its exactly the same with all the shitty matt black cliche paint jobs, its because a clueless fucking idiot with 30 quid of rattle cans can do it, then claim its cool afterwards.

And because they all keep telling each other its cool while they all do the same talentless unimaginative shit to their cars, they perpetuate the whole scene.

I'm thinking of painting my scooby matt black but only because its a track car and it'll be easier to get panels the same colour in the event of an off!!

[Chip]

Originally Posted by RSTAaron

I'm thinking of painting my scooby matt black but only because its a track car and it'll be easier to get panels the same colour in the event of an off!!

Makes perfect sense for that sort of thing, track cars and expensive paint jobs are a bad mix really IMHO anyway.

Unless its a company demo car of course!

[Ed_van_Dijk]

Originally Posted by Chip

Clearly your mrs has more of a clue about cars than you do

She said why dont i do it to my car, i said dont be silly, i dont want to make it look shit do i

[Ed_van_Dijk]

I do think this looks pretty cool though!

[RSTAaron]

Thats satin black! lol

[warrenpenalver]

Originally Posted by Chip

Its a cult, and I just wish they would do the decent thing and all get together in a house on the hill and kill themselves like other cult members have the decency to do, rather than killing themselves on the road in unsafe shit vehicles where they might take some innocents with them.

As long as it "looks" like an accident

Just remember to put the machine gun in the dead "leaders" hands afterwards so it looks like he "suicided" everyone else before offing himself!

[Chopshop85]

Originally Posted by RSTAaron

Thats satin black! lol

+1 LOL!!! satin black can look quite cool. But matt black... behave.

[Ed_van_Dijk]

Same thing near enough isit it?

Well i typed in Matt Black M5 and that came up, i saw one in london outside the radio one studios, i took a pic but i dont have it on this pc

[Chip]

A clean matt black paintjob on a really tidy car with nice rims works ok visually, its just when its a tatty matt black rattle can job on an already tatty car that makes it look so much work.
to get matt black to work the car has to be pretty much perfect IMHO

[RSTAaron]

Originally Posted by Ed_van_dijk

Same thing near enough isit it?

Well i typed in Matt Black M5 and that came up, i saw one in london outside the radio one studios, i took a pic but i dont have it on this pc

lol. Only difference is satin black has a sheen to it.

I agree with Chip, Matt/Satin black work when it's a proper job or if it's serving a real purpose. Saying that I nearly bought a matt black mk2 escort only one thing put me off...

[RSTAaron]

I bet that BMW wasn't done with spray cans either! Would've thought it would be a vinyl wrap.