Knockhill Time Attack predictions?? - Page 2

Ollie. · 01-05-2009, 03:20 AM

Be a brave man to bet against andy barring any mechanical problems... and all this with his OLD engine! He's a good couple of hundred hp down on ollie clark and even more on si norris!

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Alan_D · 01-05-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RS Grant

Think that was it, sure it was on black MOs when I saw it... but I'm guessing it wears various different wheels/tyres at various different times.

Cheers,
Grant

Yeah I saw that too when it had the black wheels...was just up at a speed sunday track day. Think Andrew has been around 650-670bhp in the last few cars he's has, but the difference now is obviously the blue car is lighter!

col666 · 06-05-2009, 11:00 AM

Really looking forward to this, I will have to take extra bravery pills though standing trackside while Andy and Ollie etc are on a fast lap!
Ollie is running about 900bhp I think and with Andy's local knowledge is should be a good fight.
I heard Ollie was doing a bit of cheating at Oulton?

MikeR · 06-05-2009, 11:40 AM

What was he doing that was cheating?

Mike

Pete 3dr · 06-05-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Power-Images

I heard Ollie was doing a bit of cheating at Oulton?

Explain???

OldDan · 06-05-2009, 12:10 PM

I love a good story!

Pete 3dr · 06-05-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDan

I love a good story!

Lol @ Dan...

col666 · 07-05-2009, 09:54 AM

I was told he was overtaking behind the pace car (which isnt allowed) to get to the front then holding everybody up so he could get a clear lap.

WD Pro · 07-05-2009, 11:38 AM

I dont know if thats true or not but Duncan Cowper was first out behind the pace car on the last session.

WD

Benni · 07-05-2009, 11:46 AM

How can the Roger Clark car be 900bhp and be slower than the AG Focus. Are his power figures bullshit or something?

Benni.

fraser9764 · 07-05-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Benni

How can the Roger Clark car be 900bhp and be slower than the AG Focus. Are his power figures bullshit or something?

Benni.

theres a lot more to it than power... weight, suspension/ car setup, driver ability etc.

andrewg · 07-05-2009, 11:55 AM

clark sub claims to be lighter than focus,,, focus now up to 1100kgs with new box an other bits and bobs

Chip · 07-05-2009, 12:02 PM

You've certainly got your work cut out there Andy, Clark and his car are an awesome combination and I really cant get my head round how your focus stands a chance on paper, lets just hope its one of the those times where the specs dont show the real potential.

One thing we all know you wont be lacking is commitment!

Benni · 07-05-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewg

clark sub claims to be lighter than focus,,, focus now up to 1100kgs with new box an other bits and bobs

With his being lighter, and the fact that oulton park has big straights, I don't see how he could be slower, or even near you? Surely he should have made you look silly? If he does have all that more power, then he must be going wrong somwhere? This is a question, I am not claiming to know anything, as I don't. I am just intrigued.

Benni.

FAST COS · 07-05-2009, 05:35 PM

For those of you that don't know, Olly only runs the Gas (Full Power) in the Final. At Oulton the Gas didn't work for the first time since running it, hence being over a second of his previous best time in 08. A 1:25.9 something !

andrewg · 07-05-2009, 05:47 PM

in the final i would of beat that, without gas, the qualifing was the only good run i had in the dry and was only learning the track and getting held up with traffic, i wasn't holding back for a clear run and reallly going for it,, is a big circiut to find 2 sec

andrewg · 07-05-2009, 05:47 PM

also with change to points system they will be going for it in qualifing too

FAST COS · 07-05-2009, 06:05 PM

Andrewg

Awesome Car you have !

But

Even if you did beat his times, He will be the One Standing on the Top Step of the Podium !

Why don't you build a Focus with a Body Shell ? And Compete with the same Rules ?

All the Best for KnockHill !

G950KDT · 07-05-2009, 06:13 PM

to be quite honest, the testemant of andy's skills both as a car fabricator/builder and drver combined shows that you dont have to have the most expensive built, most powerful engine to win or stand a chance really.

all the best to you andy, think si and ollie with more power may get a better hit up the straight but no-one knows the 'hill like you in that focus these days.

all the best for TA and we look forward to seeing you mount a challenge for the top spot.

andrewg · 07-05-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FAST COS

Andrewg

Awesome Car you have !

But

Even if you did beat his times, He will be the One Standing on the Top Step of the Podium !

Why don't you build a Focus with a Body Shell ? And Compete with the same Rules ?

All the Best for KnockHill !

tbh it wasn't built for TA it was built for scottish sports and saloons,, but with the new class i can run it,, i'm not fussed about standing on a podium,, as i will only be doing a few rounds anyway as they clash with my racing.....

should be up the hill next week to try these 888's out!!

carlo · 07-05-2009, 06:28 PM

You going to be going hard andy testing next week?

PT · 07-05-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by H19-DJA

to be quite honest, the testemant of andy's skills both as a car fabricator/builder and drver combined shows that you dont have to have the most expensive built, most powerful engine to win or stand a chance really.

.

I hardly think Andy's car was very cheap to buildeither. As much as I love Andy's car, I really don't see the point in building a car (other than an amazing demo for your company) that has no real competition, especially being the competitive guiy he is. Time attack doesnt count for points, and lets face it, if you start at the back of the grid in scottish saloons and finish first on cars first outing, that says it all. its lighting faster than everything. Kinda boring champoionship for him I would imagine

MikeR · 07-05-2009, 07:57 PM

I agree PT abit of a formality (well almost)

Andy why do you not build your own engines? and has TA given you any new customers ? somebody with your fabrication skills could surely build a great car for a customer

Mike

Ollie. · 07-05-2009, 08:54 PM

Andy only does it for a laugh and bear in mind he is a good 250hp down on the tops boys.

dp1958 · 07-05-2009, 10:52 PM

absolute respect to mr G and his focus,great to see a ford mess with top jap cars....

andrewg · 07-05-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PT

I hardly think Andy's car was very cheap to buildeither. As much as I love Andy's car, I really don't see the point in building a car (other than an amazing demo for your company) that has no real competition, especially being the competitive guiy he is. Time attack doesnt count for points, and lets face it, if you start at the back of the grid in scottish saloons and finish first on cars first outing, that says it all. its lighting faster than everything. Kinda boring champoionship for him I would imagine

you think i should of built it round ta rules then added 200hp of nos to put in one fast lap then easy win that too?? if i'm on the pace just now then new engine with some gas i should walk that too...

i built the car i wanted to built and i wanted to do the scottish championship i can't help it if its way quicker than lambos and 700bhp evos etc...i'm not going to change it so i can be on the ta podium or fire gas into it,

its not my fault there is no competition

PT · 07-05-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewg

you think i should of built it round ta rules then added 200hp of nos to put in one fast lap then easy win that too?? if i'm on the pace just now then new engine with some gas i should walk that too...

i built the car i wanted to built and i wanted to do the scottish championship i can't help it if its way quicker than lambos and 700bhp evos etc...i'm not going to change it so i can be on the ta podium or fire gas into it,

its not my fault there is no competition

Do what you want with the car, it doesn't bother me. Just seemed you had a right laugh in those fiestas the other week than another easy first place in the focus

andrewg · 07-05-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PT

Do what you want with the car, it doesn't bother me. Just seemed you had a right laugh in those fiestas the other week than another easy first place in the focus

yeah i did have a laugh also got excluded from the race and 4 points on my licence....
and its real boring going round a circiut in a 680bhp focus

PT · 07-05-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewg

and its real boring going round a circiut in a 680bhp focus

Im not having a dig at you or your car. But with 1-200+bhp less in scottish saloons would'nt you be right in amongst them etc essentially bumper to bumper racing which, as you've said in the past you enjoy alot more

andrewg · 08-05-2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PT

Im not having a dig at you or your car. But with 1-200+bhp less in scottish saloons would'nt you be right in amongst them etc essentially bumper to bumper racing which, as you've said in the past you enjoy alot more

bumper to bumper is great but so is winning,,,still wouldn't want to go slower to be bumper to bumper then come in second

jacko · 08-05-2009, 07:35 AM

andy just put the new engine in the connect that isnt space framed and enter that in ta lol

andrewg · 08-05-2009, 07:43 AM

spoke to harv yesterday and the head is back from getting tweaked at cosworth so that engine will be in soon (prob not for next ta thou) so not sure what to do with the jg engine,,, the 5 min i had it running it filled the comp housing with oil sent it to cr turbos and they say its had a hard life,not what you would expect to find on a new build like that and pectel not yet been able to fix ecu,,,, think biggest problem is the engine was never dynoed with its own loom or ecu.... i can see it going cheap as i have had about enough with it!!

MikeR · 08-05-2009, 07:58 AM

Andy, why did you get excluded and 4 points ?

Mike

carlo · 08-05-2009, 08:30 AM

pt the thing is as andy said there is a evo there with more power & it fairly goes so its not just that andys built a car thats thats much quicker , its down to a few things , how well he can pedal , how well the car is built & set up , and the weight of the car.
charlies focus has over 700 bhp now as well but still not getting near the lap times andrew is.

alistairolsen · 08-05-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewg

yeah i did have a laugh also got excluded from the race and 4 points on my licence....
and its real boring going round a circiut in a 680bhp focus

Do you mind going into a bit more detail? I assume you mean a race license? 12 points like a normal car one?

Was that for the incident with the green fiesta that was shown in the pics?

TBH, I think what youve done with the focus is awesome, and like you say, its not like other people in the championship arent on similar budgets, theyre just not competitive! Just a shame IMO that you cant run with the others at TA, but the times speak for themselves regardless

andrewg · 08-05-2009, 08:41 AM

passing under yellow flag.... which sometimes when approaching some one much faster in the wet it is hard not to pass them

PT · 08-05-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewg

bumper to bumper is great but so is winning,,,still wouldn't want to go slower to be bumper to bumper then come in second

I suppose someone has to set the benchmark, and it may aswell be you lol
Give other teams a kick up the arse for R&D after the season.

leecavturbo · 08-05-2009, 10:00 AM

Just had word that simon norris may struggle to get his ready for knockhill

NEIL A · 08-05-2009, 10:03 AM

There are other cars in the Scottish with more power then Andy's and also the fiesta thats in this monhs fast ford that should have almost the same power but be a good bit lighter but its still way off the focus's pace.

col666 · 15-05-2009, 09:19 AM

Looks like its going to be a wet weekend up at the hill, should make it even more interesting.

06-05-2009, 11:00 AM	#43
col666 15000 Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 21	Really looking forward to this, I will have to take extra bravery pills though standing trackside while Andy and Ollie etc are on a fast lap! Ollie is running about 900bhp I think and with Andy's local knowledge is should be a good fight. I heard Ollie was doing a bit of cheating at Oulton? __________________ trade sigg removed

06-05-2009, 11:40 AM	#44
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07-05-2009, 09:54 AM	#48
col666 15000 Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 21	I was told he was overtaking behind the pace car (which isnt allowed) to get to the front then holding everybody up so he could get a clear lap. __________________ trade sigg removed

07-05-2009, 11:46 AM	#50
Benni Ban[B][/B]ned Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Pool. Posts: 32,004	How can the Roger Clark car be 900bhp and be slower than the AG Focus. Are his power figures bullshit or something? Benni. __________________ *Bring Back Mr Manchester!* Benni.

07-05-2009, 11:38 AM	#49
WD Pro I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northwest Posts: 1,220	I dont know if thats true or not but Duncan Cowper was first out behind the pace car on the last session. WD

07-05-2009, 11:55 AM	#52
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07-05-2009, 12:02 PM	#53
Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33,001	You've certainly got your work cut out there Andy, Clark and his car are an awesome combination and I really cant get my head round how your focus stands a chance on paper, lets just hope its one of the those times where the specs dont show the real potential. One thing we all know you wont be lacking is commitment! __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

07-05-2009, 05:35 PM	#55
FAST COS 15000 Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	For those of you that don't know, Olly only runs the Gas (Full Power) in the Final. At Oulton the Gas didn't work for the first time since running it, hence being over a second of his previous best time in 08. A 1:25.9 something !

07-05-2009, 05:47 PM	#56
andrewg Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ayrshire Posts: 2,290	in the final i would of beat that, without gas, the qualifing was the only good run i had in the dry and was only learning the track and getting held up with traffic, i wasn't holding back for a clear run and reallly going for it,, is a big circiut to find 2 sec __________________ *removed by webteam* WHY?

07-05-2009, 06:05 PM	#58
FAST COS 15000 Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38	Andrewg Awesome Car you have ! But Even if you did beat his times, He will be the One Standing on the Top Step of the Podium ! Why don't you build a Focus with a Body Shell ? And Compete with the same Rules ? All the Best for KnockHill !

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07-05-2009, 07:57 PM	#63
MikeR PassionFord Post Whore!! Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 5,815	I agree PT abit of a formality (well almost) Andy why do you not build your own engines? and has TA given you any new customers ? somebody with your fabrication skills could surely build a great car for a customer Mike __________________ Various Series 2 parts for sale, pm what you want If you aim at nothing you will always hit it with amazing accuracy

07-05-2009, 08:54 PM	#64
Ollie. Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Near Glasgow Posts: 2,240	Andy only does it for a laugh and bear in mind he is a good 250hp down on the tops boys. __________________ Ollie www.andrewgallacher.com

07-05-2009, 10:52 PM	#65
dp1958 Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: central scotland Posts: 60	absolute respect to mr G and his focus,great to see a ford mess with top jap cars....

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08-05-2009, 07:43 AM	#72
andrewg Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ayrshire Posts: 2,290	spoke to harv yesterday and the head is back from getting tweaked at cosworth so that engine will be in soon (prob not for next ta thou) so not sure what to do with the jg engine,,, the 5 min i had it running it filled the comp housing with oil sent it to cr turbos and they say its had a hard life,not what you would expect to find on a new build like that and pectel not yet been able to fix ecu,,,, think biggest problem is the engine was never dynoed with its own loom or ecu.... i can see it going cheap as i have had about enough with it!! __________________ *removed by webteam* WHY?

08-05-2009, 07:58 AM	#73
MikeR PassionFord Post Whore!! Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 5,815	Andy, why did you get excluded and 4 points ? Mike __________________ Various Series 2 parts for sale, pm what you want If you aim at nothing you will always hit it with amazing accuracy

08-05-2009, 08:30 AM	#74
carlo 10K+ Poster!! Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ayrshire (the bronx) Posts: 12,088	pt the thing is as andy said there is a evo there with more power & it fairly goes so its not just that andys built a car thats thats much quicker , its down to a few things , how well he can pedal , how well the car is built & set up , and the weight of the car. charlies focus has over 700 bhp now as well but still not getting near the lap times andrew is. __________________ www.andrewgallacher.com = now mot testing station 01563 537 145 ps3 game tag carlo-ktm

08-05-2009, 08:41 AM	#76
andrewg Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ayrshire Posts: 2,290	passing under yellow flag.... which sometimes when approaching some one much faster in the wet it is hard not to pass them __________________ *removed by webteam* WHY?

08-05-2009, 10:00 AM	#78
leecavturbo Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,018	Just had word that simon norris may struggle to get his ready for knockhill

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NEIL A PassionFord Post Whore!! Trader Score: (5) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: LEVEN , FIFE Posts: 3,787	There are other cars in the Scottish with more power then Andy's and also the fiesta thats in this monhs fast ford that should have almost the same power but be a good bit lighter but its still way off the focus's pace. __________________

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col666 15000 Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 21	Looks like its going to be a wet weekend up at the hill, should make it even more interesting. __________________ trade sigg removed

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