paceo

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as title, while my golf vr6 is off the road for now i have bought a golf tdi mk3 diesel that runs on 100% vegetable oil with a separate tank of diesel to start it from colt initially etc, the guy done the conversion i bought the car off

where is the best place to find some online that delivers? ideally in the 20l barrels!

R4N SS

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i used to go down to costco or to my local kebab van as used to get it for free back then

not used it for a while now.

Also look at bio-diesel as it will burn better. And keep some spare filters in the car - its time to change when the car is down on power

paceo

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cool, yes its got two fuel filters, whats bio diesel dude? im new to this! its only a runaround but interesting!

cossiestu

Thought you had to mix it with diesel?

Can you run pretty much any diesel car on it?

paceo

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this one seems to run ok, the fuel lines have a heated element in them which heats the veggie oil, it getsthe heat off the water hose, so from cold you cant really put your foot down as ive learnt!

cossiestu

Might have to give it a go... Got a Zafira, but seems to be hard enough to to run on diesel, nevermind anything else!?

paceo

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best i can see is Ł8 for 10 litres from morrisons or iceland! so thats 80p a litre! whats diesel costs these days? about Ł1.30 a litre?

mk1turboestate

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I used to get 20L from asda @ about Ł15-16 or as said Costco, you need to go down the curry type aisle

R4N SS

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Can only run straight veg on old dervs with the mechanical fuel pump. - my old mk2 mondeo endura engine ran it no probs as did a mates escort mk5 with same engine.

Newer cars wont run it as the tolerances are too small.

On the fly-by-wire cars (ie 2000) you can run bio diesal which is processed veg - ran that in my X reg astra for years.

I prefer bio as you dont have to fuck about with used veg like i used to, and its price it not that far off new veg oil unless you can go cash and carry and get it mega cheap

paceo

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where do you get bio?

so used veg oil i guess there is a heck of a lot of filtering involved?

Fullflush

Common rail doesn't like it, older cars are fine

steanlol

I used to run a pug 205 diesel on veg oil from aldi when it was 27p a litre and it used to run on it without diesel , getting used oil from chip shops , curry houses and so on involves a lot of heating and filtering and that then bumps up the cost .
You used to be able to buy a filtering machine off ebay for about a grand but it would take ages to get your money back unless your doing starship miles .
Stick with buying fresh oil from the cheapest place you can find and all will be well .

cossiestu

So, bio is the way to go...?

Where can you get it?

Fullflush

Some modern cars do not like the bio fuel, be careful

cossiestu

My Zafira diesel shit box seems to hate normal diesel, can't run any worse on anything else!? Horrible car.

R4N SS

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filter used oil through 2 sets of tights then its fine. I used to send my West Indian mate in to the local shop to only buy a pair of tights and nothing else -the looks he got was priceless

As said already - common rail does not like it so anything TDCI - do not run it.

Also, I never bother heating the oil in my mondeo. Just turn the glow plugs on a couple of times and fire it up

R4N SS

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I used to get bio from an old boy in slough who manufactures it - clever guy but very eccentric

He still does it now but i aint been to see him in years

salsheikh

i used to get bio from a local farm who made lots of it and sold it for 70p a litre which was great - used it in a mk 3 Golf tdi. Then the farmer sold up and now new houses occupy the land. sad times. i found him by chance, he had an ad in a local paper.

R4N SS

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Its legal to produce your own bio - think its 2600 litres per person per household

paceo

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cool thats initially what i thought dude, just filter used oil and thats it!!

its a golf 1996 tdi! i would like to think it would fire up on 100% veggie oil without pre loading the lines and pump with diesel 2 minute before i shut the engine off!

salsheikh

some guys used to mix veggie oil with a mix of diesel (50% mix i think) in winter months as veggie oil would get too thick but as you have 2 tanks you are fine. There is a VW TDI forum that will be of use to you.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4

this section for mk3's
http://forums.tdiclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49

R5FORD

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Never really seen the point in all the agro to do this.

Psycho Warren

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These days too much agro.

Back before the recession when you could get the oil for free off the food trade then it was a brilliant idea. However too many have cottoned on to it ruining it.

R4N SS

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i would still put a tenner worth of diesel with every fill of veg - just to keep things lubricated properly inside.

R4N SS

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I drove to amsterdam for about Ł20 guys and still had a qtr tank left

Been to watch the WRC in Wales on it. Took my mates Transporter van to Cologn Germany on veg - there and back costs us 70 quid.

Its lierally cheap as chips

gingeRS

For all the hassle unless it's free I wouldn't bother, just run it on normal diesel until you find a decent supply of free oil, remember you still need to pay road fund duty on it (if you use over 2500 litres) so unlikely I guess

mk1turboestate

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My banana engine transit used to run on veg oil no problem, was new not used, if anything it ran better than on diesel, only thing I had to do was change the fuel filter after a couple of months

paceo

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guess it starts getting sluggish when filter needs changing?

cossiestu

And probably smell the same!?

mk1turboestate

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Exactly mate, ran it for a good while before any problems!
The veg oil makes the dirt float to the top

tkracing

Legalities of used oil in motors? Can the roadside vosa cops find fault? And how are emissions usually?

fraser9764

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I used to run my old 2.5di transit on new veg oil. used to turn up to Costco, load about 200l in the back and then stand there in the carpark tipping 60l in the tank with a funnel
that was great up to about 75% diesel and 25% veg, it actually returned more to the gallon! any more than that though and the mpg plummeted and it ran like shit.

R4N SS

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Is my post invisible - its perfectly legal. I have looked into years ago

Psycho Warren

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A friend used to make his own bio diesel to get round all the running issues and efficiency issues of pure veg oil.

Worked great. Although he stopped doing it a few years back as it was too much work for saving 20p a litre or something daft.

He turned a shed into a complete conversion plant. Was quite cool plus he ended up with loads of soap as a by-product which with a small amount of diesel in it made a great free alternative to swarfega. Probably not safe on the skin though

R4N SS

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pmsl @ swarfega