Nissan GTR specialist- Workshop build thread?
30-01-2015, 10:07 PM
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Nissan GTR specialist- Workshop build thread?
A few months ago I clicked on a thread and there was a post linking to a thread on another forum, it was a Nissan GTR specialist. The thread was about the GTR place building a huge workshop. I read through the whole thread and was a good read but I can't bloody find it now? Just wondering if they have finished it?
Can anyone remember it?
Thanks Rich
Can anyone remember it?
Thanks Rich
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30-01-2015, 10:21 PM
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I guess my concern would be if there is enough work available to keep that place busy everyday. I would dread to think what that place will cost per day just to open the doors.
However fair play to them, you don't take something like that on unless your dead certain you can make it work, one hell of a garage.
However fair play to them, you don't take something like that on unless your dead certain you can make it work, one hell of a garage.
Last edited by JonnyBravo; 30-01-2015 at 10:22 PM.
31-01-2015, 01:21 PM
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I guess my concern would be if there is enough work available to keep that place busy everyday. I would dread to think what that place will cost per day just to open the doors.
However fair play to them, you don't take something like that on unless your dead certain you can make it work, one hell of a garage.
However fair play to them, you don't take something like that on unless your dead certain you can make it work, one hell of a garage.
It's Severn Valley Motorsport...no strangers to the Cosworth scene, but in more recent years heavily into the supercar and GTR scene.
It's amazing that any UK car tuning business can grow to that level, but true testament to the sort of work they're capable of.
Worth noting that I'm sure a lot of their business is from outside the UK too and the new place will cater for much much more than supercars.
It looks awesome !
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31-01-2015, 08:34 PM
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Do they still have any ford involvement of have they moved on completely. Built some pretty quick ones back in the day.
Edit to add that's a mega impressive looking new workshop too!
Edit to add that's a mega impressive looking new workshop too!
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31-01-2015, 08:49 PM
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It's gonna be awesome when finished that's for sure, they built my gtr and did a cracking job to be fair it's been super reliable so far, I havnt met them yet but I will when my car needs work.
They did iirc 241 mph at brunters in the hulk gtr
They did iirc 241 mph at brunters in the hulk gtr
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31-01-2015, 08:53 PM
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241!!!!!!!! Epic!
31-01-2015, 09:23 PM
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my mistake it was 237 mph, svm built gundam at brunters vmax that car is just over 1000 hp apparently
I thought it would take a lot more power than that
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...-CMCCnD7h0NCOA
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31-01-2015, 09:34 PM
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One there cars gets work done up at andy robinsons looks to be an impressive car up close serious bit of kit! The sister car to there lime green one I'm told with 1280bhp at the wheels
01-02-2015, 09:48 AM
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business must be booming or they wouldn't be doing it, I gotta say business wise last year was the best year ive ever known and id guess it was for svm too going by there build
01-02-2015, 10:00 AM
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There R35 called Mad Medusa with 1400bhp ran 239mph.
That 1000bhp would be atw as a Veyron with 1000bhp only managed 207mph.
They produce the fastest cars in the UK at this time.
That 1000bhp would be atw as a Veyron with 1000bhp only managed 207mph.
They produce the fastest cars in the UK at this time.
01-02-2015, 12:27 PM
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Different car rod mad medusa did 239 mph, gundam did 237 mph, I'm sure gundan runs gt30s like mine but on a higher spec motor.
ive just found the spec rod, turbos are bigger then mine im on the smaller gt3071s.
SVM Gundam, tuned by GTC hits an amazing 228.94MPH at Bruntingthorpe VMAX event, beating the 3 year old record held by Porsche 9FF 223mph.
spec includes-
- SVM Long rod 3.8
- GT3076 Turbo’s on OEM manifold
- ID2000cc
- Cobb AccessPORT SD GTC Tuned
- Greddy plenium
- SVM 70mm TB’s
- SVM GTC T1000 carbon clutch kit
- Marston Intercooler w/ 80mm IC pipes
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01-02-2015, 07:42 PM
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how many people have they got working for them? must be one of the largest automotive workshops in europe if not the world surley?
02-02-2015, 04:14 PM
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What the hell, was it 40 ramps?!
Is there even that many GTR's that need work doing at any one time lol.
I'm assuming it's more for the MOT side of things, ie some sort of super size mot station for 'normal' cars too?
Must have been a few quid.
Is there even that many GTR's that need work doing at any one time lol.
I'm assuming it's more for the MOT side of things, ie some sort of super size mot station for 'normal' cars too?
Must have been a few quid.
02-02-2015, 04:54 PM
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if you read the thread he does say he owns two business one is severn valley and the other is an mot / repair garage and he is moving both of them in there. 40 ramps is not too extreme the place i used to work at had 8 and was tiny compared to that
02-02-2015, 05:23 PM
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Different car rod mad medusa did 239 mph, gundam did 237 mph, I'm sure gundan runs gt30s like mine but on a higher spec motor.
ive just found the spec rod, turbos are bigger then mine im on the smaller gt3071s.
SVM Gundam, tuned by GTC hits an amazing 228.94MPH at Bruntingthorpe VMAX event, beating the 3 year old record held by Porsche 9FF 223mph.
spec includes-
Severn Valley Motorsport @ VMax 200 - 228.94mph - YouTube
ive just found the spec rod, turbos are bigger then mine im on the smaller gt3071s.
SVM Gundam, tuned by GTC hits an amazing 228.94MPH at Bruntingthorpe VMAX event, beating the 3 year old record held by Porsche 9FF 223mph.
spec includes-
- SVM Long rod 3.8
- GT3076 Turbos on OEM manifold
- ID2000cc
- Cobb AccessPORT SD GTC Tuned
- Greddy plenium
- SVM 70mm TBs
- SVM GTC T1000 carbon clutch kit
- Marston Intercooler w/ 80mm IC pipes
Severn Valley Motorsport @ VMax 200 - 228.94mph - YouTube
I realise they are different cars im old not dead
. The 229mph is more in line with 1048bhp horses than 237mph that would take a whole chunk more Power. A Cossie would need about the same Power (1080bhp) to reach 229 & 1220 to tad 237 that's why a shonky old RS Ford will never trouble those big boys at Brunters 
.I think one day an RS will crack 217mph at Brunters it will need to run circa 950bhp for 30secs to do that but it may be some time off yet & not mine.
02-02-2015, 05:50 PM
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How many staff do they have then to have 40 ramps going?
02-02-2015, 07:43 PM
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I realise they are different cars im old not dead . The 229mph is more in line with 1048bhp horses than 237mph that would take a whole chunk more Power. A Cossie would need about the same Power (1080bhp) to reach 229 & 1220 to tad 237 that's why a shonky old RS Ford will never trouble those big boys at Brunters .
I think one day an RS will crack 217mph at Brunters it will need to run circa 950bhp for 30secs to do that but it may be some time off yet & not mine.
. The 229mph is more in line with 1048bhp horses than 237mph that would take a whole chunk more Power. A Cossie would need about the same Power (1080bhp) to reach 229 & 1220 to tad 237 that's why a shonky old RS Ford will never trouble those big boys at Brunters .I think one day an RS will crack 217mph at Brunters it will need to run circa 950bhp for 30secs to do that but it may be some time off yet & not mine.
I'm 95% certain the 237 mph was still done with 1048 hp just a better run, I think there were issues on the 228 mph run, I think a stage 4 600 hp gtr is good enough for near enough double ton at brunters from what I've read, the huge torque curve must help aswell with constant 800 lbft+ that gundam must have, mine has made over 800lbft easily on pump fuel so gundam may even be 900lbft+
Edit I've just checked gundam runs e85 1048 hp 975 lbft! That explains it then! Lol insane torque
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02-02-2015, 09:20 PM
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Torque has little to do with Top speed if you have 700bhp with 1000ft-lb it will still hit the wall at the same speed as any another 700bhp car with half the Torque & the same aero. It will get to the wall quicker I agree.
If a GTR reached 237mph with 1048bhp then the maths say you would need 630bhp to reach 200mph in the same distance. It means you are looking at 217mph with 800bhp. We must put this to the Test at Brunters
Im sure a mag shoot could be arranged or maybe a Vmax it would be a great day. My old girl would require 900bhp to get to 214mph but im prepared to give it a bash.
That would be a great 70th birthday bash.
02-02-2015, 10:47 PM
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Torque has little to do with Top speed if you have 700bhp with 1000ft-lb it will still hit the wall at the same speed as any another 700bhp car with half the Torque & the same aero. It will get to the wall quicker I agree.
If a GTR reached 237mph with 1048bhp then the maths say you would need 630bhp to reach 200mph in the same distance. It means you are looking at 217mph with 800bhp. We must put this to the Test at Brunters Im sure a mag shoot could be arranged or maybe a Vmax it would be a great day.
My old girl would require 900bhp to get to 214mph but im prepared to give it a bash.
That would be a great 70th birthday bash.
If a GTR reached 237mph with 1048bhp then the maths say you would need 630bhp to reach 200mph in the same distance. It means you are looking at 217mph with 800bhp. We must put this to the Test at Brunters
Im sure a mag shoot could be arranged or maybe a Vmax it would be a great day. My old girl would require 900bhp to get to 214mph but im prepared to give it a bash.
That would be a great 70th birthday bash.
Seems feasible mate, stage 4 gtrs are about 630 hp and I'm sure hit close to 200 at brunters, I mentioned torque aswell as hp is peak numbers but a constant sustained 900+ lbft should help keep pushing harder longer surely?
03-02-2015, 06:34 AM
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Rod why doesnt the amount of torque a car has help push it to a higher speed? Even if it has better aero than the next car ect? Very intrested in this mate.
03-02-2015, 12:01 PM
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03-02-2015, 12:43 PM
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what matters is gearing to ensure you are delivering the correct combination of wheel rpm and torque at the correct time. Nothing more and nothing less.
03-02-2015, 02:20 PM
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the point I am trying to make is we need to look at the power/torque through the whole rpm range where we are in gear accelerating.
I bet the gundam has got over 1000 hp and over 900 lbft for the entire rev range that its accelerating in hence achieving such a massive speed, its easier to achieve a large sustained torque/power curve with more displacement.
as an example I have a plot of me and rod only 30 hp difference peak figures but torque is a lot less at high rpm, but my curve is longer and torque is sustained higher and im using less rpms.
rods plot
my plot
im not trying to making a car specific comparison in anyway ive got almost twice rods displacement, what im trying to get at is we have very similar topline hp figures, but through the entire rpm range of acceleration I have a lot more torque everywhere and my engine is almost stock on pump fuel, imagine gundam on race fuel with a fully worked head and race cams.
at max rpm about to shift ive got 620lbft, rod is down to 460 lbft now surely that has to have an impact on acceleration ?
for the last 2000 rpm im 710-620 lbft, rod is 615-460 lbft
I bet the gundam has got over 1000 hp and over 900 lbft for the entire rev range that its accelerating in hence achieving such a massive speed, its easier to achieve a large sustained torque/power curve with more displacement.
as an example I have a plot of me and rod only 30 hp difference peak figures but torque is a lot less at high rpm, but my curve is longer and torque is sustained higher and im using less rpms.
rods plot
my plot
im not trying to making a car specific comparison in anyway ive got almost twice rods displacement, what im trying to get at is we have very similar topline hp figures, but through the entire rpm range of acceleration I have a lot more torque everywhere and my engine is almost stock on pump fuel, imagine gundam on race fuel with a fully worked head and race cams.
at max rpm about to shift ive got 620lbft, rod is down to 460 lbft now surely that has to have an impact on acceleration ?
for the last 2000 rpm im 710-620 lbft, rod is 615-460 lbft
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03-02-2015, 04:21 PM
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the point I am trying to make is we need to look at the power/torque through the whole rpm range where we are in gear accelerating.
I bet the gundam has got over 1000 hp and over 900 lbft for the entire rev range that its accelerating in hence achieving such a massive speed, its easier to achieve a large sustained torque/power curve with more displacement.
as an example I have a plot of me and rod only 30 hp difference peak figures but torque is a lot less at high rpm, but my curve is longer and torque is sustained higher and im using less rpms.
rods plot
my plot
im not trying to making a car specific comparison in anyway ive got almost twice rods displacement, what im trying to get at is we have very similar topline hp figures, but through the entire rpm range of acceleration I have a lot more torque everywhere and my engine is almost stock on pump fuel, imagine gundam on race fuel with a fully worked head and race cams.
at max rpm about to shift ive got 620lbft, rod is down to 460 lbft now surely that has to have an impact on acceleration ?
for the last 2000 rpm im 710-620 lbft, rod is 615-460 lbft
I bet the gundam has got over 1000 hp and over 900 lbft for the entire rev range that its accelerating in hence achieving such a massive speed, its easier to achieve a large sustained torque/power curve with more displacement.
as an example I have a plot of me and rod only 30 hp difference peak figures but torque is a lot less at high rpm, but my curve is longer and torque is sustained higher and im using less rpms.
rods plot
my plot
im not trying to making a car specific comparison in anyway ive got almost twice rods displacement, what im trying to get at is we have very similar topline hp figures, but through the entire rpm range of acceleration I have a lot more torque everywhere and my engine is almost stock on pump fuel, imagine gundam on race fuel with a fully worked head and race cams.
at max rpm about to shift ive got 620lbft, rod is down to 460 lbft now surely that has to have an impact on acceleration ?
for the last 2000 rpm im 710-620 lbft, rod is 615-460 lbft
People look at peak figures and chat about them and then realise as youve pointed out that two cars of the same peak figures can have completely different characters, so then they look at the other headlie figure, torque and piss about trying to explain it with that (Diesel owners are the very worst)
People then look at dyno plots and go on and on about torque. RPM is a linear scale, torque is measured, power is your available work rate and thus ALL that matters.
So look again at your power curve against rods, yes the peak is similar, but Rod makes and exceeds 750bhp from 6500 to ~8250, while you have it from 6000 - 7250.
What Rod comes back to time and time again is that when you are at ~200mph and trying to make that final speed what matters is the gearing putting you at peak power, because if your wheel speed is fixed by the speed you're doing, more power will always deliver more torque to the driven wheels and accelerate you faster. THAT is the torque which matters, not peak engine torque.
03-02-2015, 05:58 PM
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Again, ignore torque completely, you have more power at those RPMS.
People look at peak figures and chat about them and then realise as youve pointed out that two cars of the same peak figures can have completely different characters, so then they look at the other headlie figure, torque and piss about trying to explain it with that (Diesel owners are the very worst)
People then look at dyno plots and go on and on about torque. RPM is a linear scale, torque is measured, power is your available work rate and thus ALL that matters.
So look again at your power curve against rods, yes the peak is similar, but Rod makes and exceeds 750bhp from 6500 to ~8250, while you have it from 6000 - 7250.
What Rod comes back to time and time again is that when you are at ~200mph and trying to make that final speed what matters is the gearing putting you at peak power, because if your wheel speed is fixed by the speed you're doing, more power will always deliver more torque to the driven wheels and accelerate you faster. THAT is the torque which matters, not peak engine torque.
People look at peak figures and chat about them and then realise as youve pointed out that two cars of the same peak figures can have completely different characters, so then they look at the other headlie figure, torque and piss about trying to explain it with that (Diesel owners are the very worst)
People then look at dyno plots and go on and on about torque. RPM is a linear scale, torque is measured, power is your available work rate and thus ALL that matters.
So look again at your power curve against rods, yes the peak is similar, but Rod makes and exceeds 750bhp from 6500 to ~8250, while you have it from 6000 - 7250.
What Rod comes back to time and time again is that when you are at ~200mph and trying to make that final speed what matters is the gearing putting you at peak power, because if your wheel speed is fixed by the speed you're doing, more power will always deliver more torque to the driven wheels and accelerate you faster. THAT is the torque which matters, not peak engine torque.
well im 99% sure gundam did 237 mph with 1048 hp and 975 lbft and from what rods saying its impossible so theres something why a gtr can do it with that power but a saph cannot ?
03-02-2015, 07:53 PM
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My mate bought the blue svm r35 last year didnt know it had a name im sure its 1000 bhp i will ask him unless they had 2 blue big power r35's
03-02-2015, 07:56 PM
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Because the aero of a saph and a gtr on on opposite ends of the scales? Surley that has skmething to do with it somehwere and also the gearing will be totally different?
03-02-2015, 08:10 PM
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The saph has the same drag coeffience as a ferrari f40
04-02-2015, 08:44 AM
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