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Old 06-04-2015, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer

for £3k though surely a linered 200 block would be cheaper and even stronger at this price level for a bare block ?
Yeah, this YB RS500 block is pricey. But the repair of cracked blocks is pricey too ...

So the question remains: Is this 205 YB block worth that money and is it really stronger than a 200 block as claimed?

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Originally Posted by sierraforlife
Yeah, this YB RS500 block is pricey. But the repair of cracked blocks is pricey too ...

So the question remains: Is this 205 YB block worth that money?


more to the point is it worth it instead of a linered 200 block that is the question imo.
Old 06-04-2015, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer

more to the point is it worth it instead of a linered 200 block that is the question imo.
Yup, that's THE question.
Old 07-04-2015, 10:27 PM
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I have an as new RS500 block if anyone is in need, dyno miles only, and I will take a chunk less than Burtons want for one.
Old 07-04-2015, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
Top info there, like the std yb crank isn't counterbalanced 😭😪
It is just not like a more modern arrow one
Old 29-04-2015, 07:26 PM
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Can 205 blocks be linered?
And would this make them significantly better??
Old 29-04-2015, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Mine is at 470, don't know how it will last as it has only just started at that power.
Oops, mine is a 200 block, sorry...just checked.
Old 29-04-2015, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
Can 205 blocks be linered?
And would this make them significantly better??
Yes and yes.
Old 30-04-2015, 07:22 AM
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So if you had a 205 block that needed boring out, but wanted to run 2 bar/400bhp through it a solution would be to get it steel linered?

How would this compare to a std 200 block?
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
So if you had a 205 block that needed boring out, but wanted to run 2 bar/400bhp through it a solution would be to get it steel linered?

How would this compare to a std 200 block?
Gotta be stronger surely.

With that above statement, say you have a 205 block on a 0.5mm or +1mm overbore and then had it linered - will it still be as strong as a 200 block and will it take more 400+bhp?
Old 30-04-2015, 09:19 PM
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I'd say it'd be as strong as 200 block definitely. And easily take 450hp+

Cheers Paul
Old 30-04-2015, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N SS
Gotta be stronger surely.

With that above statement, say you have a 205 block on a 0.5mm or +1mm overbore and then had it linered - will it still be as strong as a 200 block and will it take more 400+bhp?

Will take 1000bhp its just for how long. If money is tight you guys are not going to listen to advice so just get on & build what you want. If you don't drive hard & most don't we will have a thread next year saying I told Rod it would handle 450bhp. However do a bit of competition work & that thread will say I should have listened to Rod. They changed the 205 for a reason & it was not to save some of you guys a few quid .
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My car gets driven hard all day on track at 2 bar boost.
But I have a spare 205 block, and wanted to get an idea if it will be of use to me in the future or not.
My current 200 block I'm considering getting long studed, 6 or 10 in an attempt to make my engine reliable for a few years.
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Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry
They changed the 205 for a reason & it was not to save some of you guys a few quid .
To be fair Rod, it wasnt to take more power either.
Old 03-05-2015, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
To be fair Rod, it wasnt to take more power either.
it was to cope with the 4x4 set up.
Old 03-05-2015, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by costina
it was to cope with the 4x4 set up.
But to do this ultimately they made it stronger
Old 03-05-2015, 06:34 PM
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What about the RS500 blocks then? Surely they can take some torque / bhp ?
Old 03-05-2015, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
What about the RS500 blocks then? Surely they can take some torque / bhp ?
yes they can but its not worth the debate. Lol.
A 205 block will handle a great deal of power if built correctly and on std bore and not rotten. The only issue you cannot long stud. BUT with the turbo design being far superior less heat and lower boost pressures will ease the stress on the block.
Old 03-05-2015, 09:15 PM
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But it is a 205 block Paul and I don't need telling the above either, been there done that
Old 03-05-2015, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
But it is a 205 block Paul and I don't need telling the above either, been there done that
Yeah mate 500bhp on std head bolts on a track.
Cosworth hav'nt a fucking clue bud but Joe soap in his garage knows everything....
500 block only had small core plugs.
anyway im pissed so take no notice of what i say.
Old 03-05-2015, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by costina
Yeah mate 500bhp on std head bolts on a track.
Cosworth hav'nt a fucking clue bud but Joe soap in his garage knows everything....
500 block only had small core plugs.
anyway im pissed so take no notice of what i say.


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Originally Posted by ajamesc
But to do this ultimately they made it stronger
As a by product of resisting the additional stress of the 4wd, probably not intentional for further tuning.
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
As a by product of resisting the additional stress of the 4wd, probably not intentional for further tuning.
correct and a bonus for bigger power.
Old 04-05-2015, 11:07 AM
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not to throw a spanner in the works but what about using a transit block

commence heated debate
Old 04-05-2015, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MrC
not to throw a spanner in the works but what about using a transit block

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heard it done never seen one.
That would be the 202 block.
Also the 185 1800cc pinto block could possibly be strong being a later casting???? But i guess they are rare.
Old 04-05-2015, 07:37 PM
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202 blocks are popular with the n/a boys....

Cheers Paul
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Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry
Will take 1000bhp its just for how long. If money is tight you guys are not going to listen to advice so just get on & build what you want. If you don't drive hard & most don't we will have a thread next year saying I told Rod it would handle 450bhp. However do a bit of competition work & that thread will say I should have listened to Rod. They changed the 205 for a reason & it was not to save some of you guys a few quid .
Rod, I understand perfectly where you are coming from, however I can get a fresh built 205 engine complete relatively cheap compared to a recently built and driven 200 block needing turbo, injectors, loom, ecu, etc for a grand more. I cannot justify this additional cost as will also need to factor in the cost to replace all the missing parts and knowing me if i have to buy them parts then i will get something that will give me closer to the power level i want and that wont be cheap.

I already have another 200 block engine needing a rebuild so can sort that out when time and funds allow. Am also looking to build a 3dr Sierra up as well as save for a property so its not a case of skimping out and fitting the cheapest but more of a case fitting the best parts available at the time according to my budget. Both of my cars will be a long term project but i would like to drive one of them this year as its been far too long and im getting bored of the golf diesal.

I would be happy with 450bhp in the saph running a 205 block engine as this will be more of a daily
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