Do you get bullied/discriminated by the size of the car you drive?
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Do you get bullied/discriminated by the size of the car you drive?
Had numerous of small cars in the past as well as some city cars and whilst driving on the motorways i get a feeling that i get disrespected more - for example when pulling out into a busy lane on the motorway no one flashes me and doesn't let me into the lane. On the other hand when I've had my Mondeo's/Avensis's etc it's completely vise versa to what I've just said. I can even recall lorries flashing their lights to let me know i was clear to pull in, whilst driving these cars. Also I seem to find that driving a larger car you don't get tailgated as much as you do in a small car (even though you're keeping up with the traffic flow and lane 1 or 2 is congested!!!)
What are your views/experiences on this?
What are your views/experiences on this?
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We had a micra in our fleet for a few years, people would pull out on you, over take you even if you was bang on the speed limit, never happened in our other cars.
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maybe you just need to be a bit more assertive instead of waiting for other peoples approval? I prefer to judge for myself when its safe to move over rather than waiting for trucks etc to flash me.
but I cant say ive ever felt bullied whether in a little car, little van, big truck , big car or whatever.
but I cant say ive ever felt bullied whether in a little car, little van, big truck , big car or whatever.
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1st car was a Mk2 Punto - lovely little motor, quite perky for a 1.2...but yeah, did get a fair few bullies.
I'm not the sort of person to take it, intimidation was always met with an evil laugh. More than one occasion I've played chicken with big German cars and won (the Punto was fucked anyway, like I'd really care if it picked up another scratch or 7?)
I'm not the sort of person to take it, intimidation was always met with an evil laugh. More than one occasion I've played chicken with big German cars and won (the Punto was fucked anyway, like I'd really care if it picked up another scratch or 7?)
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Ive gone from a big 4x4 to a ka as a daily and people do treat you differently. You get cut up and pulled out on more and people dont like getting out your way on motorways.
The other funny one is when youre in a fast car, apart from a few boy racers, once youve past someone, thats it, you both carry on. However in the ka im sure it offends people when you overtake them because quite a lot i overtake, move back to middle then left lane at SAME speed, then the car ive overtaken shoots past only to slow down and me overtake again in a mile or so Its like youve insulted thier manhood by overtaking them. Its not sportscars either, just boggo focuses and other drab shit boxes.
I do agree that dont let people bully you on the road or everyone will treat you like a cunt - especially on busy dual carriageways and motorways. Stand your ground and force the cunt to rethink.
Quite often when some cunt tries to bully his way out a side road I will floor it and move to the left forcing the cunt to back up to the giveway line where he should have stayed in the first place....
Same on motorways youre obeying the lane rules in moderate traffic and you see some cunt coming up behind swerving through all 3 lanes to try and get ahead. I will happily close up on the car in front to "slam the door" on him trying to cut me up.
Some people would argue 2 wrongs dont make a right, but morally im right and some cunt needs to teach the arseholes a lesson. Unless you treat them like the cunt they are being, they wont change.
The other funny one is when youre in a fast car, apart from a few boy racers, once youve past someone, thats it, you both carry on. However in the ka im sure it offends people when you overtake them because quite a lot i overtake, move back to middle then left lane at SAME speed, then the car ive overtaken shoots past only to slow down and me overtake again in a mile or so Its like youve insulted thier manhood by overtaking them. Its not sportscars either, just boggo focuses and other drab shit boxes.
I do agree that dont let people bully you on the road or everyone will treat you like a cunt - especially on busy dual carriageways and motorways. Stand your ground and force the cunt to rethink.
Quite often when some cunt tries to bully his way out a side road I will floor it and move to the left forcing the cunt to back up to the giveway line where he should have stayed in the first place....
Same on motorways youre obeying the lane rules in moderate traffic and you see some cunt coming up behind swerving through all 3 lanes to try and get ahead. I will happily close up on the car in front to "slam the door" on him trying to cut me up.
Some people would argue 2 wrongs dont make a right, but morally im right and some cunt needs to teach the arseholes a lesson. Unless you treat them like the cunt they are being, they wont change.
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I treat all other road users exactly the same way other road users treat me, with contempt believing they are going to crash into me if I give them an inch of room.
But then I drive around city centre daily where tailgating at 3mph is hardly called tailgating
But then I drive around city centre daily where tailgating at 3mph is hardly called tailgating
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ive gone from a range rover to a mondeo and its very different, no one would try to bully the rangey but now people barge through when its not their right of way and dont even wave to say thanks.
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I think you need anger management. Lol
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Without a doubt the smaller the car, the less respect you are given by other drivers - not all but those that would let that have an influence.
Part of it imo is that people associate those cars with women , older or bad drivers and so just feel superior to them on the road.
A bigger or more manly car is seen as being driven by someone who is more capable and so treated with a bit more respect.
Part of it imo is that people associate those cars with women , older or bad drivers and so just feel superior to them on the road.
A bigger or more manly car is seen as being driven by someone who is more capable and so treated with a bit more respect.
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If someone tail gates you just slow down even more, if I'm tailgated in a 60 limit I'll do 35 40 ish and just laugh at the twat having a paddy fit behind the wheel behind, no need for bullying on the road, if they were not behind the wheel and in person on the street I don't they they would feel quite so hard.
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So technically i am a lot better.
I just take it out on others instead now far more cathartic to get even against arseholes than bottle it up and go mad.
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hey, im not regularly smashing up laptops and phones and stuff that annoys me any more I'm not hurting myself either
So technically i am a lot better.
I just take it out on others instead now far more cathartic to get even against arseholes than bottle it up and go mad.
So technically i am a lot better.
I just take it out on others instead now far more cathartic to get even against arseholes than bottle it up and go mad.
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Before my fiancée got her driving license I was explaining how differently people treat you on the road depending on the car your driving.
We went out in my Evo X and nobody goes near you, never cut you up and never overtakes. We then did a dump run in the run around KA, you can probably imagine the difference.
That's what encouraged me to start my Smart car project - check the link.
We went out in my Evo X and nobody goes near you, never cut you up and never overtakes. We then did a dump run in the run around KA, you can probably imagine the difference.
That's what encouraged me to start my Smart car project - check the link.
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If someone tail gates you just slow down even more, if I'm tailgated in a 60 limit I'll do 35 40 ish and just laugh at the twat having a paddy fit behind the wheel behind, no need for bullying on the road, if they were not behind the wheel and in person on the street I don't they they would feel quite so hard.
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And I will finally get a well deserved permenant home in broadmoor or rampton to live my days out.
You could imagine the parole hearings being entertaining.
Just because someone drives a shitbox doesnt mean they take it up the shitbox
To be fair, a lot of people these days have zero balls and are pathetic cowards when they are faced with real life arguements or confrontation (seems social media has killed off the need for voice social skills and the ability to be assertive and confident face to face has died with it).
When i deliberately hold up a cunt, officially it is because i am following the highway code which tells you to reduce your speed when being tailgated in case an accident occurs.
Also I am doing it because I know it winds them up. I could speed up then swerve into the left lane but why should I? The cunt can wait until it is safe for me to move over. Its no worry to me, often im giggling and taking delight that I am following the highway code and it annoys them so much.
And when im in a powerful car, I then take delight in flooring it back to my original speed, meaning usually they are left eating my dust and it takes them a while to catch up again.
In 17 years of driving consistantly treating tailgaters like the cunts they are, no one has rammed me off the road or tried to drag me out the car. Worst usually is the horn or a middle finger and on a couple of occasions some wannabe will cut you up at the lights and get out, but they soon fuck off when i get out with my steering lock (shaped like a baseball bat - it locks the wheel technically lol).
So the risk to me is low and IMO the risk is far outweighed by the benefit of winding the cunt up so that maybe the cunt will one day think "why do people treat me like a cunt when i tailgate them? oh because im being a cunt to them" Maybe it only sinks in with a few percent of people i do it to, but worth it IMO.
You could imagine the parole hearings being entertaining.
Just because someone drives a shitbox doesnt mean they take it up the shitbox
To be fair, a lot of people these days have zero balls and are pathetic cowards when they are faced with real life arguements or confrontation (seems social media has killed off the need for voice social skills and the ability to be assertive and confident face to face has died with it).
Also I am doing it because I know it winds them up. I could speed up then swerve into the left lane but why should I? The cunt can wait until it is safe for me to move over. Its no worry to me, often im giggling and taking delight that I am following the highway code and it annoys them so much.
And when im in a powerful car, I then take delight in flooring it back to my original speed, meaning usually they are left eating my dust and it takes them a while to catch up again.
In 17 years of driving consistantly treating tailgaters like the cunts they are, no one has rammed me off the road or tried to drag me out the car. Worst usually is the horn or a middle finger and on a couple of occasions some wannabe will cut you up at the lights and get out, but they soon fuck off when i get out with my steering lock (shaped like a baseball bat - it locks the wheel technically lol).
So the risk to me is low and IMO the risk is far outweighed by the benefit of winding the cunt up so that maybe the cunt will one day think "why do people treat me like a cunt when i tailgate them? oh because im being a cunt to them" Maybe it only sinks in with a few percent of people i do it to, but worth it IMO.
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No bullying on the road per say but I've had plenty of keyboard warriors giving it big as I have a mk4 fiesta, then I found out what they were driving......... (serious shitbox alert!)
Fuck 'em I say
Fuck 'em I say
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Aint no one going to try it on with a Volvo 850, 1.7 tons of Swedish steel isn't going far I had someone brake check me in a Daewoo Matiz a few weeks back, I just chuckled.
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I do a lot of driving and I think people's driving standards have degenerated so much over the last few years.
I literally see these things EVERY day:
1. Drivers on their phones who think they are in control of their cars but are definitely not!
2. People undertaking. So many people do it you'd think it had been made legal!
3. Cars and particularly lorries drifting out of their lanes INTO MINE as I'm trying to pass them.
4. People that don't seem to think that indicating is necessary anymore, that I'm just psychic about the stupid manoeuvres they're about to do. Some of this tends to be because they're on the phone but some of it is just bone idleness as far as I can see.
5. Lorries who think they can take five miles to overtake each other on a dual carriageway and not give a toss about the five mile queue of cars built up behind them. This seems to have got soooo much worse lately for me.
I have to say I've become a much more maybe the word is assertive driver rather than aggressive, and you have to be much more wary now, or you'll end up part of some idiot's accident.
Oh, I do drive a Mondeo ST TDCI by the way. I do a lot of miles so a small car for me wouldn't be comfortable enough.
I literally see these things EVERY day:
1. Drivers on their phones who think they are in control of their cars but are definitely not!
2. People undertaking. So many people do it you'd think it had been made legal!
3. Cars and particularly lorries drifting out of their lanes INTO MINE as I'm trying to pass them.
4. People that don't seem to think that indicating is necessary anymore, that I'm just psychic about the stupid manoeuvres they're about to do. Some of this tends to be because they're on the phone but some of it is just bone idleness as far as I can see.
5. Lorries who think they can take five miles to overtake each other on a dual carriageway and not give a toss about the five mile queue of cars built up behind them. This seems to have got soooo much worse lately for me.
I have to say I've become a much more maybe the word is assertive driver rather than aggressive, and you have to be much more wary now, or you'll end up part of some idiot's accident.
Oh, I do drive a Mondeo ST TDCI by the way. I do a lot of miles so a small car for me wouldn't be comfortable enough.
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Must admit I undertake, anyone sat in lane 3 with 2 others free pees me off but as for lorries unless you have been a lorry driver you won't understand
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Undertaking is really dangerous though. I don't think people realise just how dangerous. I'm looking all over the place all the time but a lot of people aren't expecting people coming up on the left, and there's obviously blind spots too, very risky.
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A few months ago I was driving down the A48 and come across two vans side by side from the same firm doing 50mph while the two drivers had a chat to each other through the windows.
After about a mile they finally called it quits and the van in the overtaking lane pulled in.
It was about 5am and there was nobody else on the road so when after about 2 miles the road became one lane I overtook both of them and slowed to 20mph for a few minutes.
You could quite clearly see the man in the van behind getting quite irate!
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[QUOTE=TrevCos;6532403]Actually other people I know who are lorry drivers have said the same, and I can see that they have to meet deadlines, although this does seem to have got a lot worse. Maybe increased traffic on the roads?
passed my test in a lorry and 10 years or so ago was up and down the motorways in one, it's that busy on the roads what used to be a fairly enjoyable job is a nitemare, nobody cares if they cut you up, pull out on you, try cutting inside on roundabouts so for your average guy in a truck he probably doesn't care how held up you are, at least your behind not cutting you up onto a motorway exit etc.
Also each trucks limiter is slightly different, not all exactly 56, some might be more and some less, nothing worse than following another truck say down the m1 right behind it, dangerous too as you can't see, if you slow down a little to give you room the slower truck you've just passed will go past you again so now there's two.
Fully freighted and 44 ton you like to be at peak rpm to get up a hill, even small hills can be a pain in a lower powered truck so being behind another one and not being able to overtake half way up a hill really is annoying as not likely a car would let you out.
In Europe at peak times trucks can't overtake on duel carriageways like they do here, as a car driver I like that idea, not sure if it was triled a few years back, only probs are our roads are not long and flat like continent and I don't think it would work safety.
passed my test in a lorry and 10 years or so ago was up and down the motorways in one, it's that busy on the roads what used to be a fairly enjoyable job is a nitemare, nobody cares if they cut you up, pull out on you, try cutting inside on roundabouts so for your average guy in a truck he probably doesn't care how held up you are, at least your behind not cutting you up onto a motorway exit etc.
Also each trucks limiter is slightly different, not all exactly 56, some might be more and some less, nothing worse than following another truck say down the m1 right behind it, dangerous too as you can't see, if you slow down a little to give you room the slower truck you've just passed will go past you again so now there's two.
Fully freighted and 44 ton you like to be at peak rpm to get up a hill, even small hills can be a pain in a lower powered truck so being behind another one and not being able to overtake half way up a hill really is annoying as not likely a car would let you out.
In Europe at peak times trucks can't overtake on duel carriageways like they do here, as a car driver I like that idea, not sure if it was triled a few years back, only probs are our roads are not long and flat like continent and I don't think it would work safety.
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Can't say I ever feel bullied... But then I commute on the motorway in a silver 320d so it's probably me driving like a tit!
My pet hate is people not using both lanes before a merge... They'd rather queue across a busy roundabout than learn to drive properly? So I don't even feel a little bit bad driving past the entire queue.
My pet hate is people not using both lanes before a merge... They'd rather queue across a busy roundabout than learn to drive properly? So I don't even feel a little bit bad driving past the entire queue.
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Can't say I ever feel bullied... But then I commute on the motorway in a silver 320d so it's probably me driving like a tit!
My pet hate is people not using both lanes before a merge... They'd rather queue across a busy roundabout than learn to drive properly? So I don't even feel a little bit bad driving past the entire queue.
My pet hate is people not using both lanes before a merge... They'd rather queue across a busy roundabout than learn to drive properly? So I don't even feel a little bit bad driving past the entire queue.
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Round here it's like some of the smaller cars have a chip on there shoulder about those in bigger/better. They're generally driven by folk that don't drive any further than the end of their own bonnet, driving is secondary to whatever they're doing so they're humming along in the outside lane at 69.75mph overtaking fresh air!It's like they see something bigger and try and nip in like it's a challenge! Some days I could be invisible so I'll openly admit to using the size to get where I want to be.
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You guys seem to turn driving into some sort of warfare or mind games .
I just drive its easier that way. Own a Pug 107, Rover, SLK & a Cossie all I have to remember is that in the SLK I don't have to waggle the stick.
Reading this thread reminds me of a guy at work he did the same commute as I did. Every day he had a drama, cut-up, under taken people driving like twats etc. Would take until lunchtime to get over it. I did that same route for 24 years never felt threatened or saw the things he saw in his mind.
Get a grip lads your just driving my granny did it so cant be hard.
I just drive its easier that way. Own a Pug 107, Rover, SLK & a Cossie all I have to remember is that in the SLK I don't have to waggle the stick.
Reading this thread reminds me of a guy at work he did the same commute as I did. Every day he had a drama, cut-up, under taken people driving like twats etc. Would take until lunchtime to get over it. I did that same route for 24 years never felt threatened or saw the things he saw in his mind.
Get a grip lads your just driving my granny did it so cant be hard.
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