The Underdog

hi. i have some big troubles with my st170. iv swapped the flywheel and clutch for a TTV solid flywheel with a standard fit 230mm clutch. fitted it all up and the starter was just clicking and battery earth lead started smoking. first assumed a bad earth but i fitted gearbox earth and run a jump lead as a temp earth but still same. long story short the engine is locked solid. it will not turn with a spanner on the crank or turning wheel in gear. iv removed starter in case this is jammed and its not that. the clutch is disengaging as when i push it in the wheel will turn while in gear but somehow the flywheel must be locked or jammed. just looking for ideas before box comes back off?

the flywheel bolts are shorter to accomodate solid flywheel but im worried they could be too long? is this possible. i checked and double checked that the stick out lenght of bolt was same as on dual mass so it would not go too far into crank. im lost for ideas

thanks

The Underdog

also the engine was turning when i tightend flywheel bols and i had to lock it to torque up so i think i can eliminate this but im still doubting myself even though im sure the bolts are not too long.

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Can you loosen the gear box bolts and move the box back. It sounds like it could be the box to me.

The Underdog

i done that earlier but only about 5mm. if it was the box though glenn i would be able to turn the crank with a spanner in neutral wouldnt i? i tried it and it wont budge

The Underdog

also with one wheel up off ground i was able to turn the wheel when it was in gear but with clutch down. am i right in assuming box is turnin as is the clutch plate when i do this? clutch up and locked so somehow flywheel must be jammed but i cant fathom how

botters

iTrader: (2)

could it be locked in gear? did you remove the cables properly or pull them out of the adjusters at the gearbox end?

The Underdog

i just popped the cables off the box and left them hangin. if it was locked in gear the car would jerk on start up though wouldnt it? started just clicked as i think flywheel is jammed. i have no option other than take the box back off i think

botters

iTrader: (2)

yeah sorry it would i didnt read your post properly, yeah either way you are going to have to take box back out unfortunatly just strange that it turns with clutch pressed but not without, and you say the flywheel turned prior to the clutch being fitted so the fault has to lie with the clutch itself. is it the correct clutch for the flywheel?

studabear

is the friction plate fitted the correct way around?

The Underdog

Iv been thinking this but would it cause this problem? I put it on as it says trans side but I didn't get the alignment right. I took it back off and reset the centre tool so maybe I stupidly put it back on second time the wrong way.

The Underdog

Yeh no problem I appreciate any help or input so thanks and it is correct one but maybe on wrong way as post above

botters

iTrader: (2)

i know its different engine/box combo but my mate put a mondeo friction plate in the wrong way round and the box would not fully bolt up to the engine so it may well be in the wrong way round if yours is locked up with box fitted

The Underdog

Problem fixed. 1 flywheel bolt was 1 mm to long. Was a nightmare but done now so thanks for help

studabear

That sounded a proper pain in the ass, bet your happy you found the problem.

The Underdog

It was but I'm just glad it was nothing serious. It went a lot quicker 2nd time too lol. I'm learning from my cock ups