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Old 18-10-2014, 08:39 PM
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The logging on the Syvecs is great, but for launches etc, unless you've an undriven wheel vehicle speed reference on a 4wd car it's difficult to use any data when wheelspin occurs. Really the only way to get that with 4wd is via GPS input or similar.
Once moving and all wheels have traction, it isnt a problem though so would mostly affect trying to work with 60fts and short standing start data

But for mine with a front undriven wheel, it's fine. It shows a distance field in the logs which is handy for pulling your own stats from runs whether road, track, strip etc
Even down to 60fts
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
The logging on the Syvecs is great, but for launches etc, unless you've an undriven wheel vehicle speed reference on a 4wd car it's difficult to use any data when wheelspin occurs. Really the only way to get that with 4wd is via GPS input or similar.
Once moving and all wheels have traction, it isnt a problem though so would mostly affect trying to work with 60fts and short standing start data

But for mine with a front undriven wheel, it's fine. It shows a distance field in the logs which is handy for pulling your own stats from runs whether road, track, strip etc
Even down to 60fts

ryan did show me a 0 - 100 in 4.9 seconds run but I guess some wheelspin could of influenced that run then being syvecs based, I shall continue to use the vbox as it makes all my data comparable, syvecs will be more of a learning curve for me as its the first ecu ive ever had I can communicate with
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
ryan did show me a 0 - 100 in 4.9 seconds run but I guess some wheelspin could of influenced that run then being syvecs based, I shall continue to use the vbox as it makes all my data comparable, syvecs will be more of a learning curve for me as its the first ecu ive ever had I can communicate with

For the most part using the logging is safe....it's separate software from SCal so you cant actually do any harm pulling logs or setting what parameters to log

Although the parameters to actually activate the logging are within SCal...where you could hit wrong buttons.

So first thing when you connect to the ecu for the first time, save the current calibration and make copies of it somewhere safe before tampering.

And when changes are made, give them a new file name, or add 01, 02, 03 etc to the end so you can easily see previous files.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
For the most part using the logging is safe....it's separate software from SCal so you cant actually do any harm pulling logs or setting what parameters to log

Although the parameters to actually activate the logging are within SCal...where you could hit wrong buttons.

So first thing when you connect to the ecu for the first time, save the current calibration and make copies of it somewhere safe before tampering.

And when changes are made, give them a new file name, or add 01, 02, 03 etc to the end so you can easily see previous files.

I will have to tread very carefully as its all unlocked lol

ryan spent many many hours mapping it I wouldn't fancy having to pay for all that again due to me being a 5 year old with a new laptop clicking everything lmao

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well ive finally put some ethanol in it and done some pulls

I used no launch at all just clicked in drive and nailed it for both of these pulls


v power 1.6 bar boost 0 - 130 mph 9.3 seconds




and 45% ethanol 55% v power 1.8 bar boost 0 - 130 mph 8.6 seconds




30 - 130 mph now down to 6.24 seconds aswell im well chuffed with that

60 - 130 mph on the ethanol map I got 5.02 seconds, so close to a 4 I reckon she would make it just into the 4s when its dry warm tarmac

traction felt a lot better on the v power run but that was back in much better weather than we have now.

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
well ive finally put some ethanol in it and done some pulls

I used no launch at all just clicked in drive and nailed it for both of these pulls


v power 1.6 bar boost 0 - 130 mph 9.3 seconds




and 45% ethanol 55% v power 1.8 bar boost 0 - 130 mph 8.6 seconds



60 - 130 mph on the ethanol map I got 5.02 seconds, so close to a 4 I reckon she would make it just into the 4s when its dry warm tarmac

traction felt a lot better on the v power run but that was back in much better weather than we have now.

Fuck me and there was me thinking I could get close to a 11sec 0-130 with less than 600 bhp cant see that then
Old 01-11-2014, 06:31 PM
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Awesome that, 30-130 very impressive, can't remember what Ross & Norris did but you're heading in the right way, very quick car you have there
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Originally Posted by Jay,
Fuck me and there was me thinking I could get close to a 11sec 0-130 with less than 600 bhp cant see that then

your a lot lighter than me though mate I need 950 hp for the fat arse gtr lol

I reckon with a full bore launch 0.7 seconds will come of those times aswell, from standing start my 0 - 60 should be 2.8 seconds
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Originally Posted by Staffi
Awesome that, 30-130 very impressive, can't remember what Ross & Norris did but you're heading in the right way, very quick car you have there
cheers bud considering it is a proper 100% road car im well chuffed, someone added an old marham plot I think to my old r33 thread, il go take a look.......


we went to bodiam castle on Thursday 4 up everyone was happy 240 mile round trip and only used 2/3 of a tank of fuel aswell just cruising at 60 - 70 mph
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
your a lot lighter than me though mate I need 950 hp for the fat arse gtr lol

I reckon with a full bore launch 0.7 seconds will come of those times aswell, from standing start my 0 - 60 should be 2.8 seconds
With the mods im doing and the gearing Rod seems to think around 7 secs to 100 so we will see lol but id like to think another 30mph shouldnt take more then 4.5 secs
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Originally Posted by Jay,
With the mods im doing and the gearing Rod seems to think around 7 secs to 100 so we will see lol but id like to think another 30mph shouldnt take more then 4.5 secs

I think your in the right ballpark mate I did 0 - 100 mph in 7.2 seconds with the r33 at 710 hp stock weight 1540 kg so 461 hp per ton


seems to be 1305 kg 4x4 saph, so 600 hp saph would be 459 hp per ton so almost identical to my r33.

I did 0 - 130 in my r33 in 11.3 seconds so im sure you will be around that mate or quicker with 600 hp, my launch and shifts wernt perfect for that 11.3 either
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i dont understand most of this technical shit but even I can see that 0-130 in 9 seconds is pretty dam quick!
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
i dont understand most of this technical shit but even I can see that 0-130 in 9 seconds is pretty dam quick!

I reckon on a nice hot day with hot tarmac and r888s it could dip in the high 7s to 130

as long as my gearbox doesn't go BOOOOOOOOM
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On paper that's a 9 sec quarter mate if your in the 7s at 130 especially at pod
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Originally Posted by turnover
On paper that's a 9 sec quarter mate if your in the 7s at 130 especially at pod
I hope so bud, if I can do 0 - 130 mph in 8.6 seconds with no launch in cold weather, I reckon a 7 should be doable shouldn't it in perfect conditions, perfect run ? im thinking a launch should gain me 0.6 - 0.7 seconds alone, plus with added traction through the lower gears should gain some there aswell I think.

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your car must be crazy! 9second quarter ! wow
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well my youngest has got me up wanting some munch


so ive loaded some more data

just looking at my qtr mile run

it recorded 10.91 at 117 mph but I backed off the throttle at 9.3 seconds into the run




as you can see I hit 137 mph then backed off and coasted over the line at 117 mph

from studying the plot I think it would hit about 150 mph staying planted across the line.

and my 60ft plot from that run at 2.7 seconds lol




I should be able to do a 1.6 60ft on the r888s with launch control so theoretically it should do about a 9.6 at 150 mph roughly on a good run race fuel.


to do a 10 though with a 2.7 60ft and backing off is a good start if nothing else lol


and a comparison red run is v power map, blue run racefuel map




I crossed the line at 144 mph in v power run, the race fuel map is 7 mph ahead when I back off so in theory should of been 151 mph.

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Definitely a 9 sec car if you get full run with descent 60ft
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Originally Posted by turnover
Definitely a 9 sec car if you get full run with descent 60ft
id better get my (forget about the gearbox) shoes on then lol


I found those 30 - 130 plots from my other thread robw added I know there old ones but even so shows my 6.24 seconds is well up there especially considering my car is just stock gearbox and diff ratios aswell and has a massive top speed still


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there may be a little more in with hot tyres and tarmac but I cant see it breaking out of the 6s 30 - 130
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Great reaults mate it must be awesome to drive. Does it feel a lot quicker with the race fuel? Be good to see a little vid of it in action
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Originally Posted by stevecfrst1
Great reaults mate it must be awesome to drive. Does it feel a lot quicker with the race fuel? Be good to see a little vid of it in action

I will get some vids at some point mate I always forget I struggle enough to remember to put it in race mode, I think to much work is driving me abit scenile already the vid in this thread is a low rev limit and 1 bar of boost, it sounds a lot more menacing with 1.7 bar of boost and 7450 rpm

it does definitely feel quicker from the seat.
the comparison I did earlier of 0-130 is abit off as the vpower run lost a 10th due to traction control kicking in hard.

so to ignore that tenth lost ive done a 60 - 130 mph overlay
v power blue vs e50 red





it is crazy how much more power is needed for just small increases in speed
from my dyno plots the race fuel map vs the v power map has an additional 116 hp, but in real world terms all it did was accelerate me from 60 - 130 in 5.02 seconds vs 5.49 seconds, so 0.47 seconds quicker which doesn't seem much really for an additional 116 hp lol

it does feel considerably faster though I must say

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Mega impressive times! Who runs that 30-130 shootout then? Looks like an interesting event.
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1/2 second over such a small speed is a pretty big increase in performance.

10% reduction in time for what % increase in power ?

MLR run the 30-130 event most commonly run in the UK, although I think the times posted above are 2-3 years old ?

Cant seem to find most recent ones
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
1/2 second over such a small speed is a pretty big increase in performance.

10% reduction in time for what % increase in power ?

MLR run the 30-130 event most commonly run in the UK, although I think the times posted above are 2-3 years old ?

Cant seem to find most recent ones

Good point I hadn't thought of it like that by percentages

So I have done 60-130 8% quicker with 13% more power, I guess that's actually really good going as double the power doesn't double the pace


Those 30-130 results are a few years old, they are probably in the 4s now I'm sure the svm hulk is and that mental Scooby :-o
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From Andy's recent 7.87 at Santa Pod, which is obviously different to an airfield etc.. ( Although he did a 7.7 last weekend was it ?

On the 7.87 run he recorded a

3.54s 30-130mph

2.7s 60-130mph

0-180mph in 8s lol

Obviously you can't even begin to compare the two cars though, they're a million miles apart in every respect other than approx engine size, cylinders and number of turbos.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
From Andy's recent 7.87 at Santa Pod, which is obviously different to an airfield etc.. ( Although he did a 7.7 last weekend was it ?

On the 7.87 run he recorded a

3.54s 30-130mph

2.7s 60-130mph

0-180mph in 8s lol

Obviously you can't even begin to compare the two cars though, they're a million miles apart in every respect other than approx engine size, cylinders and number of turbos.

Whole other planet quick that thing, but as you say not really comparable as it's a stripped out half the weight race car. Mighty impressive though it must be an immense feeling driving it

It's crazy to think that Scooby does 60-130 nearly twice as quick as my gtr is it 1000bhp and 1 ton ish?

For the first time in many years I can honestly say 100% I don't need more power in my street car, YET lol
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Whole other planet quick that thing, but as you say not really comparable as it's a stripped out half the weight race car. Mighty impressive though it must be an immense feeling driving it

It's crazy to think that Scooby does 60-130 nearly twice as quick as my gtr is it 1000bhp and 1 ton ish?

For the first time in many years I can honestly say 100% I don't need more power in my street car, YET lol

you can never have enough power lol!
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It's over a 1000 hp and think it weighs less than a ton
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Originally Posted by turnover
It's over a 1000 hp and think it weighs less than a ton
So over 1000 hp per ton no wonder it's so quick
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Originally Posted by salsheikh
you can never have enough power lol!
I genuinely have though, I drive it around at just 1 bar mostly and even at that in all honesty not much would live with it

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I realised a couple of things last night looking at the figures.

im now dead heat with a 1200hp Veyron supersport 60 - 130 in 5 seconds, I know it would kill me top speed but im still chuffed I could live with it in real world situations

and my 1/8 mile trap speed of 120mph is almost equal to the 1/4 mile trap speed of 122 mph of my old 580 hp r32 gtr lol


next up is a launch test and see if I can 0-100 mph in the high 4s......

ive done 5.8 so far with no launch
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If you launch it you might as well keep it planted to pull another 30-130 figure out of the log to see if you can hit that 4s range.
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
I realised a couple of things last night looking at the figures.

im now dead heat with a 1200hp Veyron supersport 60 - 130 in 5 seconds, I know it would kill me top speed but im still chuffed I could live with it in real world situations

and my 1/8 mile trap speed of 120mph is almost equal to the 1/4 mile trap speed of 122 mph of my old 580 hp r32 gtr lol


next up is a launch test and see if I can 0-100 mph in the high 4s......

ive done 5.8 so far with no launch
Blistering figures!
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Is it still as you bought it or you added anything tuning wise? Sorry if I've missed it.

Mental figures for a fat boy road car. Fair play.
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Originally Posted by Fast Guy
If you launch it you might as well keep it planted to pull another 30-130 figure out of the log to see if you can hit that 4s range.
I will do mate being as I havnt launched yet im sure my 30-130 will improve with a launch, a sub 6 would be good......

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Blistering figures!

cheers mate it is far beyond anything else ive ever had

Originally Posted by Carlos-Titx
Is it still as you bought it or you added anything tuning wise? Sorry if I've missed it.

Mental figures for a fat boy road car. Fair play.

I havnt done a thing to it mate, ive done 800 miles in it and put half a litre of oil in it, it needed the hose reseating for the flex fuel sensor which is done, I just need to fit a new windscreen wash pump I got it just not had time to fit it yet.


I only tried the full power map last weekend hence only just getting in the full power figures.

my mate went in it and said "its not as quick as the supra" to which I said no its MUCH quicker lol

its so poised and planted where the supra was just a monster that felt quicker even though it was a lot slower lol

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That's redonkulously quick!

Out of curiosity, how much is the race fuel you've been using?
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
That's redonkulously quick!

Out of curiosity, how much is the race fuel you've been using?


I don't know mate it came with the car.

I think it is e100 ethanol, I put 20 litres in and after 5 mins of driving the ethanol content on my gauge was constant at 45% so near enough full power tune at max mapped boost

its mapped to run at 50% ethanol for 960 hp 1.7 bar
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well the car has had its first repair done.


ive had it 6 months now done 1000 miles in it and weve just done the windscreen washer motor, old unit seized.


touch wood that's it, so far, in the r33 and the supra both running big power everytime I used them something broke, literally !
I have no illusions of immortality lmao, but so far its been super reliable, I cant fault it
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I have been pondering on a private plate for the gtr, nothing silly money just something personal to me or the car.

So far I have found V38 GTR the engine is a vr38 so the plate sits well but it's £1000!

Why is that £1000 is it because it's 6 digit plate? Seems overpriced to me
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
I have been pondering on a private plate for the gtr, nothing silly money just something personal to me or the car.

So far I have found V38 GTR the engine is a vr38 so the plate sits well but it's £1000!

Why is that £1000 is it because it's 6 digit plate? Seems overpriced to me


because of the reason you want it. 38 and gtr being part of the plate.


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