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Old 19-11-2013, 11:14 AM
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Default Powerful cars on crap tyres?!?

Just grabbed my lunch and walked past a guy in the queue for the petrol station. No idea why I looked really but spotted that he had Marshall tyres on the front. Then I noticed the car was a Vectra VXR!

Would think that chassis we need all the help it could get with it's tyres.

Seems a fair few people just slap any old crap on their car as it's cheap
Old 19-11-2013, 11:19 AM
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Some people have fast cars arnt really into them.To some people a tyre is a tyre.
Old 19-11-2013, 11:21 AM
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My staff at. 380bhp had h rated budgets on it when I got it!
Old 19-11-2013, 11:25 AM
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Also I think peeps not in the know get a "I've a real powerful car trip" when they spin up the Tyres in first second third not knowing it's the china plastic not gripping and not 200 bhp out of the k&n they fitted .


Must admit I thought I had 500 brake in my first 3dr as it'd spin up to four in the cold or damp if pushed until I saw the elevens I left outside my gaff one day, about an inch wide as the car was lowered and cambered to death....lol

Fitted coilove rears and car almost never spun up again but flung me forward as supposed to happen....
Old 19-11-2013, 11:40 AM
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dunno how crap and cheep tge Marshall tyres are, but does seem like some people just don't care and feel a tyre is a tyre and that's it.

You can pay a tiny amount more and get decent supposedly mid range rated tyres that are as good if not better than Premium makes


recently fitted some avon zz5's to replace some pirelle p zeros, and they are a lot better and Ł60 less per tyre too.
Old 19-11-2013, 11:49 AM
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I didn't think Marshall where that bad, now if you said Wanli's, a lot of the premium tyre companies actually make the mid range brands.
Old 19-11-2013, 12:41 PM
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there's so many foreign branded tyres that i've never ever heard of that get offered when i got to my local tyre shops - i tell them to get real and give me a branded tyre.
Old 19-11-2013, 04:03 PM
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I had wooden tyres on the escos. Quite liked a bit of wheelspin - better than breaking transmission parts.

Also, if they let go on a bend I won't be going so fast, so might not end up quite so far into the field
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JB was the king of this.

500+ bhp, and used to run around on whatever scraps of tyres he could blag from the local tyre places, he said he didnt want grip as it would break his diff.

Was hilarious how often his saph was sideways even in the higher gears.

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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
Also I think peeps not in the know get a "I've a real powerful car trip" when they spin up the Tyres in first second third not knowing it's the china plastic not gripping and not 200 bhp out of the k&n they fitted .


Must admit I thought I had 500 brake in my first 3dr as it'd spin up to four in the cold or damp if pushed until I saw the elevens I left outside my gaff one day, about an inch wide as the car was lowered and cambered to death....lol

Fitted coilove rears and car almost never spun up again but flung me forward as supposed to happen....
Couldn't agree more Rob
Old 19-11-2013, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
JB was the king of this.

500+ bhp, and used to run around on whatever scraps of tyres he could blag from the local tyre places, he said he didnt want grip as it would break his diff.

Was hilarious how often his saph was sideways even in the higher gears.
A Legend of the art of going sideways .
Old 19-11-2013, 04:51 PM
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Off topic slightly, what happened to JB's Sapph??
Old 19-11-2013, 04:54 PM
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I've got eBay specials on my mondeo and that spins up easily.

Compound is like wood lol

Had decent ones on the st though.
Old 19-11-2013, 05:19 PM
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lol they last ages though. had nankangs on my a3 but its Quattro which helps
Old 19-11-2013, 05:21 PM
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Ł50 a tyre or Ł120

If I had a rwd car I'd put crap on the back as well just for shits and giggles lol
Old 19-11-2013, 05:31 PM
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It always amazed me at what skinny tyres the cossie had on it. Even m3s of that era had decent size tyres on them, good or bad branded you want as much width as possible
Old 19-11-2013, 05:34 PM
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It amazes me that people scrimp on the only point of contact your car has with the road!
Old 19-11-2013, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Just grabbed my lunch and walked past a guy in the queue for the petrol station. No idea why I looked really but spotted that he had Marshall tyres on the front. Then I noticed the car was a Vectra VXR!

Would think that chassis we need all the help it could get with it's tyres.

Seems a fair few people just slap any old crap on their car as it's cheap
Would hardly say it's that powerful.

And if it's just used for the shopping run....sure cheap tyres are fine. The owner probably couldnt tell the difference anyway
Old 19-11-2013, 06:02 PM
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Marshal tyres are a mid road tyre which are made by kumho
Old 19-11-2013, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by s2erst
Marshal tyres are a mid road tyre which are made by kumho
Nothing wrong with marshals/ Kumho used to work for Kumho r&d and had great results on decent powered cars m3/m5 911 r8 Lamborghini etc
Vid from one of our dealer days

Old 19-11-2013, 06:42 PM
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I had Woosung tyres on my stage 3 saff when I bought it. I nearly died a few times!
Old 19-11-2013, 06:42 PM
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Was looking at an E46 M3 on Piston Heads with Nangkang's on the rear.
Old 19-11-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
Off topic slightly, what happened to JB's Sapph??
was that the orange sapphire?

if so there was pics in the abandoned fords thread of it sitting at the back of a workshop waiting to be put back together
Old 19-11-2013, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
Off topic slightly, what happened to JB's Sapph??

He broke it didn't he? That thing was awesome.

And to keep in with the thread, to some people, as long as they are black and round, not a lot else seems to matter.
Old 19-11-2013, 07:12 PM
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Hell yeah!

Old 19-11-2013, 07:30 PM
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i put 4 brand new tyres on my old escort si, fitted them myself and they cost me the grand total of Ł40 for all four they were called star performer tng hp and offered zero grip even on the dryest of days! shame i fitted them in the middle of winter!
Old 19-11-2013, 07:31 PM
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would never scrimp on tyres on any car

I had a lexus is430 with cheap tyres and the road noise was that bad I thought all wheel bearings were nackered
Old 19-11-2013, 07:50 PM
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My mondeo (although not very powerful) has got linglongs, light the fuckers up at every opportunity trying to wear them out lol
Old 19-11-2013, 08:29 PM
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The wifes focus has tyres on it called triangle. I got 4 tyres for nowt so im not complaining.
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The garage that sold me my Audi A4 Qauttro fitted 4 new 18" tyres..... Goodrides theyre called, fuck me they are noisey and shit but balls to it its 4wd and winters looming so not fitting something better now had it been a 2wd version i think it would be bloody awful to drive with the 170 tdi engine, my 130 tdi bora a few years ago was bad enough at wheelspin from the lights if you wanted a quick getaway etc
Old 19-11-2013, 08:34 PM
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never understand the mentality of buying chinese linglong ditch-finders no matter how much poke your car's got. There's only 1 thing that keeps you on the road, why the fuck would you risk it for the sake of a few quid?!
Old 19-11-2013, 08:46 PM
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i don't really care how crap tyres are at laying down the power - but i am concerned with how well they will stop and the 2 things normally go hand in hand and when the time comes to avoid an accident, the extra Ł100 is worth it otherwise you'd be paying out an insurance excess
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I put a set of goodrides on the saph (only a twincam 8v) a few years back, think they lasted 100 miles before it rained, I turned back and parcked up - car wouldnt drive straight on them... spinning up in every gear

Then put some Michelins on - what a difference

Never bought cheap since..
Old 19-11-2013, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
i don't really care how crap tyres are at laying down the power - but i am concerned with how well they will stop and the 2 things normally go hand in hand and when the time comes to avoid an accident, the extra Ł100 is worth it otherwise you'd be paying out an insurance excess

Of course...insurance cry when you modify your car for better performance, the police hassle you like fuck, etc etc


yet not a word is said when millions of motorists "modify" their cars by fitting wan-king tyres to their cars, also modifying it's performance.
And fitting wan-ker brake discs and pads to their cars...again modifying it's performance.

Lots of replacement parts are of obscene quality....yet not a word is said.


Although the 16's on my van are Chinese Mohawks, and really cant fault them at all. Good levels of grip went and dry, and they give good mileage.. On my 3rd set of them now. Had Hankook's and Federals before that, and will be sticking with the Mohawks
Could have got Triangles....but seriously, who the fuck calls a tyre Triangle !!!!
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The wifes focus has tyres on it called triangle. I got 4 tyres for nowt so im not complaining.
You really don't like your Mrs do you Glenn?
Old 19-11-2013, 09:23 PM
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Our Rapid Fit dept. at work sell a lot of budget 'Autogrip' tyres, they are shocking.
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Originally Posted by GVK.
You really don't like your Mrs do you Glenn?
Maybe if she put out a bit more he'd get some eagle f1s on there lol.
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......and not have a 42,000 + post count
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had 3 fullruns split on me and were all good tread depths too
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Got a fiesta st with standard Pirelli p-zero Nero on it.

Worst tyres I have ever used.

Had 2 sets of Toyo's, proxes 4's were ok, although very soft in sidewall, and the t1r's were much better.

Currently have Yoko Parada spec 2's which are alright. Quite liking them.

Had Goodyear eagle f1's on an xr2i years back and hated them. They spun up like fuck at the first hint of rain. Really don't get the love for them??

If I change tyres, I always get a full new set. I don't mind paying a few quid either. I'd never fit a lingling or whatever. And yeah, I agree with what someone said above, it's not always the handling, but the stopping distances that are the most important for day to day driving.

My sister got caught out when an audi q7 stopped ahead. From 40-0 in no space at all. She ended up rear ending it in her Polo, probably due to worse brakes, but mainly due to the shocking tyres.

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