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Old 21-07-2013, 08:38 PM
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Apparently if you have a broken cam belt and bent valves all you need to do is put a new belt on and rev the t1ts off it to straighten the valves.

From a PistonHeads thread..

Whilst I mention it, I have seen people change the belt, fire it up and rev the tits off it to basically hammer the valve head straight again. It can work but I personally would never try such cowboyery
And you know everything I have seen? I have seen it and seen the car run for a significant time after. It was done by a mechanic I knew years ago, I was sceptical and didn't believe it would work but it did.

Pug 405 1.6 petrol, snapped cam belt, valve clearance was out quite a bit. New belt fitted, started and it missed and tapped a lot. Revved hard for a minute the tapping gradually quietened down and the miss fire disappeared, valve clearance closed back up.

As said, I have seen the heads drop ff valves so would never attempt things, if the head breaks off you're in the st.

Believe me, people who think they know everything rarely do and are far more likely to know less as they shut their eyes to new knowledge.

Old 21-07-2013, 08:42 PM
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sounds like a toptip
Old 21-07-2013, 08:43 PM
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Well if it came from piston heads it must be true lol

I heard some madness in my time of being on the tools but that's by far the best so far
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Might have been a "safe" engine, so if the belt has gone then it won't bend the valves anyway!

Saying that pistonheads is full of wet lettuce opinionated stuck up fannys who THINK they are car enthusiasts
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i want to know how it started lol
Old 21-07-2013, 09:18 PM
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Possible it a very very slight bend but most bent valves fuck the seat so no amount off revving will cure it!
Old 21-07-2013, 09:49 PM
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To be honest chaps I've done it myself years ago on a car I bought with a snapped belt , 205 1.1 petrol , had just touched and ran on maybe 2 and a half cylinders but came good with some hard revving

And in all my years in the trade I've never had fucked seats with bent valves!
That's just tosh !

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Must only work on Peugeots.
Old 21-07-2013, 10:14 PM
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Surely if you bend something, then bend it back it is going to be weaker?
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Un related but many years ago I had a rather Smokey Orion 1600e caused by being thrashed to with in an inch of its life on a daily basis, a mechanic mate diagnosed the smoking due to glassed bores. As I was only 18 paying a fortune for insurance and doing half my wages on petrol a week he offered a cheap fix @ £1.99.

He sent me to the shop opposite the garage to buy a tin of Ajax powder he then mixed it with WD40 to make a paste tipped some down each plug hole then turned the engine over for 5 mins, put the plugs back in a run it up the road no more smoke well for a couple of months anyway.

There are loads of dodgy tricks in the motor trade so quite believe the valve story.
Old 21-07-2013, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by richard youll
To be honest chaps I've done it myself years ago on a car I bought with a snapped belt , 205 1.1 petrol , had just touched and ran on maybe 2 and a half cylinders but came good with some hard revving

And in all my years in the trade I've never had fucked seats with bent valves!
That's just tosh !
Here are some fucked seats from bent valves





In fairness usually it's the guides that break and more often than not that is what stops any quick fixes

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Old 21-07-2013, 11:04 PM
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It can work, but is dodgy as hell

Wouldn't recommend it to anyone as you could do more harm than good.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Here are some fucked seats from bent valves





In fairness usually it's the guides that break and more often than not that is what stops any quick fixes


In all fairness those seats are not fucked because of bent valves those seats are fucked because the valve head has snapped off I can trump that by saying it also fucks pistons too but it's only if they snap off!!!
Old 22-07-2013, 06:36 AM
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I have never heard of that before.
Old 22-07-2013, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by richard youll
In all fairness those seats are not fucked because of bent valves those seats are fucked because the valve head has snapped off I can trump that by saying it also fucks pistons too but it's only if they snap off!!!
I'm sure you can imagine what the piston looked like lol
Old 22-07-2013, 07:58 AM
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If i only knew this 2 years ago

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Old 22-07-2013, 11:07 AM
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^^ they'll be fine, just rev 'em to 6000rpm for 3 mins.
Old 22-07-2013, 04:34 PM
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If you rotate the 180 degrees then they may bend back to where they came from....... Utter madness lol
Old 22-07-2013, 04:43 PM
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ive seen uri gellar do something similar
Old 22-07-2013, 06:30 PM
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He straightens them with the bonnet down, mind altering shit.
Old 22-07-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
sounds like a toptip


Must add a pic of a smirking edd china
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lol if only id known this before it may of saved me a few cylinder head jobs on the old cat engines fpmsl
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Latest from Pistonheads.

If an RX8 gets a rear end shunt it can fuck up the engine as the exhaust doesn't have any flexy joints. Can crack the rotors/tips.

Really?

I really wish you had contacted someone like Haywards after you had had the accident in the first place. You could have had a decent payout from the insurance instead of a dead engine and a scrapped Rex.

Basically because you had to that big impact to the rear of the car which meant you had to replace the exhaust due to the impact of the bike where do you think a good percentage of that impact engergy on the exhaust travelled up to with no real flexi on the exhaust system It all went straight upto the engine.

I had an accident someone went in to the rear of me at a set of lights and Haywards insisted on checking out their freshly rebuilt engine as any shockloading like that can damage the engine tips. Mine was all ok but the insurance company had a bit of a bottom clenching moment when i told them the engine was being inspected for damage with a possible rebuild cost of £2.5k....

such as shame as it sounds like a shockloading problem has occured and damage a seal or tip which has now fragged itself into an engine failure when you took it to 10/10ths.
If that's the case they really ARE shit.

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Old 07-08-2013, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GVK.
Latest from Pistonheads.

If an RX8 gets a rear end shunt it can fuck up the engine as the exhaust doesn't have any flexy joints. Can crack the rotors/tips.

Really?
these cars have nothing going for them do they?! They'd work better if they had a hole in the floor and Fred and wilma in the back
Old 07-08-2013, 11:19 PM
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Shockloading problem!!! RX8
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Crazy!!
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Originally Posted by GVK.
Crazy!!
The japs are usually spot on with their engineering aswel! What the fook happened with the RX8???

To busy snorting wasabi and chasing the dragon and building the triad empire
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Also, if you do 130mph in a new Mercedes with 200 miles on the clock it can cause permanent engine damage!!!
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Latest from Pistonheads. A SIX page thread about removing 2 rusty bolts from a Clio exhaust.

Do people just post random bullst without thinking about the job in hand?
Hammering on a socket so near to the catalytic converter?

...Seriously?

If you use a hammer near the cat you may well shatter it internally. They are actually quite brittle inside. Don't use a hammer anywhere near a catalytic converter, OK?
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Originally Posted by GVK.
Latest from Pistonheads. A SIX page thread about removing 2 rusty bolts from a Clio exhaust.



Gary finds some pearlers 2 bolts: 6 page
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my dad bent a valve on his xr3i years ago and i remember him bouncing it off the limiter trying to straighten the valve(s)
worked for a temp fix(bodge, obviously tapped still) till he had the time to strip it down and fix it properly
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Originally Posted by SBT83


Gary finds some pearlers 2 bolts: 6 page
It's very bizarre, the OP states his garage has no power so he can't use a grinder or whatever, cue 15 people telling him to use a grinder, then another 15 people telling him it's too dangerous to use a grinder

My reply to that was "By the way some of you lot are going on, it's not like he's wrestling a live aligator under his car"

Then some bright spark puts a pic of a DeWalt re-chargeable reciprocating saw on there. (Have you seen the size of them?)

I replied, "How the fuck is he going to get that under there with a car less than 2ft off the ground"
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Brilliant!!! some of the things people think pmsl!!!
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Been a while since I posted words of wisdom from Pistonheads. Wow...

Hi guys,

This will inevitably be a stupid question that will probably have the answer I expected, but I will ask anyway.

I have an E36 328 with some cheap n nasty XS power stainless steel exhaust manifolds. The 3-6 mani has completely cracked and sheared just before where it joins to the downpipe (so when the 3 go into 1) so it is essentially running with the exhaust ending at the end of the mani. Having noise tested it at 105db at part load, and having it apparently louder from the outside, and also as the lambda sensor is in the downpipe and thus no longer getting decent readings, I need a quick way to fix this before I can find the time to get under the car to remove the downpipe bolts so i can get the manifold welded.

I have some short rubber piping from an S13's standard intercooler piping. If I bunged this over and jubilee clipped it on either end so that it covered and connected the two bits, would the rubber likely burn/melt etc? Do i have a temporary quick fix option that doesnt involve removing the bottom bit of the manifold?
What do you think sunshine?
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Some dippy posts there.These people shouldnt be aloud to have cars.
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I hope someone told him it was a good idea!
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Originally Posted by SBT83
I hope someone told him it was a good idea!
knowing piston heads theres prob 2 pages of idiots telling him that the jubilee clips wont hold it and to use tiny little exhaust clamps instead
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I cant go on that forum any more, had a 3 day barnie with the men who developed the focus rs. there were saying that its impossible to get any more power than 265hp out of them, when I replied with 10 dyno graphs of engines over 400hp they banded together to say I was a lier and must be making it up cos they made the focus rs, and even the guy I was sticking up for mugged me off the f¥£ker. boiled my piss
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now im getting all angry again thanks mate,
why is that forum so full of experts, think every vehicle development team ever that has walked all must be on that forum, its a shame as there is some good things on there.

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